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| eumel8 | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Office Hour | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 5 13:00:46 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Office Hour)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_office_hour' | 13:00 |
| eumel8 | Hello | 13:00 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Hi | 13:01 |
| ianychoi_phone | I am almost at home - in 5mins | 13:01 |
| eumel8 | k | 13:02 |
| jpich | Hello! | 13:03 |
| Linkid | hi | 13:03 |
| ianychoi_phone | jpich: hello! How r u ? | 13:03 |
| eumel8 | Hello | 13:03 |
| ianychoi_phone | Linkid: hello | 13:03 |
| jpich | Good, and you?? | 13:04 |
| ianychoi_phone | Me too | 13:04 |
| ianychoi_phone | So hot and humid here | 13:04 |
| eumel8 | Welcome to the I18n Office Hour | 13:06 |
| eumel8 | I'm not sure if we have more things on agenda | 13:06 |
| eumel8 | #topic Open Discussion | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Office Hour)" | 13:06 | |
| ianychoi | I am back :) | 13:07 |
| eumel8 | so we start with open discussion :) | 13:07 |
| eumel8 | I'm also back ;) | 13:07 |
| ianychoi | :) | 13:07 |
| ianychoi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-ansible/%23openstack-ansible.2018-06-29.log.html#t2018-06-29T12:51:04 | 13:07 |
| ianychoi | Ansible team asked if there would be some help on translation issue | 13:08 |
| ianychoi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545377/ | 13:09 |
| ianychoi | This review was merged and so I18n team now can translation ansible documents, although publishing job needs to be defined | 13:09 |
| eumel8 | yeah, first of all: the patch is in place! Thanks to all for pushing this forward | 13:09 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, thanks a lot PTL for making it forward! | 13:10 |
| eumel8 | I think we need to setup Zanata now | 13:10 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, already set up - I don't know who did it but anyway.. | 13:10 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: how is the project name? | 13:11 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, https://translate.openstack.org/project/view/openstack-ansible | 13:12 |
| ianychoi | #link https://translate.openstack.org/project/view/openstack-helm | 13:13 |
| ianychoi | #link https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/horizon/master/documents | 13:14 |
| eumel8 | #link http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-ansible/master/propose-translation-update/4c7752e/job-output.txt.gz | 13:16 |
| eumel8 | ok | 13:16 |
| eumel8 | it's doing things | 13:16 |
| ianychoi | Good - I am not too much familiar with that - how can I find the link you posted nicely? :) | 13:17 |
| eumel8 | goto http://zuul.openstack.org/builds.html | 13:17 |
| eumel8 | Job: propose-translation-update | 13:17 |
| ianychoi | Thanks :) | 13:18 |
| eumel8 | Project: openstack/openstack-ansible | 13:18 |
| eumel8 | I translated a string to see how it works with push back into repo | 13:21 |
| ianychoi | >75% :) | 13:22 |
| eumel8 | yes, would be easy on a plain doc | 13:22 |
| ianychoi | Good! | 13:23 |
| eumel8 | we have an idea how and where it will published? | 13:23 |
| ianychoi | Idea would be the same as how openstack-manuals and training-guides are published generally, although https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572559/ is on stuck.. | 13:25 |
| ianychoi | Seems that PDF builds need more implementation on os-api-ref | 13:25 |
| ianychoi | Would "Dividing the governance patch into two patch: one is PDF, the other is translation" be nice? | 13:26 |
| eumel8 | I think so | 13:27 |
| eumel8 | yeah, if we remove PDF stuff from this patch then we're save | 13:28 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, thanks for your suggestion - I will do it by this week :) | 13:29 |
| eumel8 | nice | 13:29 |
| eumel8 | PDF spec is already in progress. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509297/ | 13:30 |
| ianychoi | I have been very busy on organizing OpenInfra Days Korea 2018.. Still some additional wrap-things should be done, but things are getting stable. | 13:30 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, the main suggestion was to migrate the spec into infra-spec from my remembrance, but I think https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-docs-support-pdf-and-translation substitutes it | 13:31 |
| eumel8 | But I'm very happy that we have the project doc translation in place. That was one of the goals for this release. And we can celebrate it :) | 13:32 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, What I want to and also you can help I think is that how such things can be implemented using openstack-zuul-jobs definition | 13:32 |
| ianychoi | And this is what I don't have too much knowledge on. I need eumel8's help :) | 13:32 |
| eumel8 | ok, we have to move more into project repos, I think. | 13:33 |
| ianychoi | Although the topics are different, very similar knowledge on manipulating openstack-zuul-jobs and project-config is needed | 13:33 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, that is also what I want to you. I18n team needs to define the target of documents with the agreement from team members. | 13:34 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, Or same as current translation targets | 13:34 |
| eumel8 | like that: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550814/ | 13:34 |
| ianychoi | We can have two (or more) options: 1) same as current translation target as ^ 2) deciding documentation translations differently and defining in projects.yaml | 13:35 |
| ianychoi | (Hmm by the way I need to drive now..) | 13:36 |
| eumel8 | project.yaml in project repo | 13:37 |
| ianychoi | project-config? or each project repo? | 13:37 |
| eumel8 | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/zuul.d/project.yaml | 13:38 |
| ianychoi | Then my question is: why translation targets are set on project-config but document translation targets are set on each repo? | 13:38 |
| eumel8 | we have to move translation targets in each repo as clarkb mentioned | 13:39 |
| ianychoi | I didn't remember when and where such discussion was occurred | 13:40 |
| eumel8 | de-centralize the things so the project cores are able to decide it | 13:40 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, what I am worried about is that sometimes I18n team needs to finally decide the translation target.. | 13:40 |
| eumel8 | as a comment in 550814 | 13:40 |
| ianychoi | I don't know which is better but decentralizing to project cores is also a good idea | 13:41 |
| eumel8 | the problem was during the last cycle infra team was not able to merge time critical things for translation phase | 13:41 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, please move forward :) I don't have strong opinion on that. | 13:42 |
| eumel8 | if the responsibility is on the project teams it should be go faster | 13:42 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, and sorry I really need to leave now but we can talk later if you share your availability on iRC time | 13:42 |
| eumel8 | ok | 13:42 |
| eumel8 | then in 2 hours? | 13:42 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, okay :) | 13:43 |
| eumel8 | fine | 13:43 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, thanks | 13:43 |
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| eumel8 | ok, if there are no more topics for the moment - see you later :) | 13:54 |
| eumel8 | #endmeeting | 13:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack goes multilingual! | I18n & L10n channel" | 13:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 5 13:55:52 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_office_hour/2018/openstack_i18n_office_hour.2018-07-05-13.00.html | 13:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_office_hour/2018/openstack_i18n_office_hour.2018-07-05-13.00.txt | 13:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_office_hour/2018/openstack_i18n_office_hour.2018-07-05-13.00.log.html | 13:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Y. Choi proposed openstack/i18n master: Fixes unworking links in I18n contributor guide https://review.openstack.org/580444 | 16:40 |
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