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| eumel8 | morning | 11:57 |
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| eumel8 | jamesmcarthur: Good morning, Sir! | 13:44 |
| eumel8 | jamesmcarthur: hopefully not to early for a question :) | 13:45 |
| jamesmcarthur | eumel8: not at all | 13:47 |
| jamesmcarthur | hit me | 13:47 |
| eumel8 | jamesmcarthur: I'm too shy | 13:49 |
| eumel8 | I'm in preparation for some slides for the upcoming OpenStack Days and just wondering how to reach I18n contributing from https://www.openstack.org/community/ page | 13:50 |
| eumel8 | there were a link like "everything else" but I couldn't found yet | 13:50 |
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| jamesmcarthur | hmm | 13:58 |
| eumel8 | I want to say "3 clicks and you are there", so people can start with contributing or an advise what to do | 14:02 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, clicking "Contributor Guide >" -> "Code & Documentation Contributor Guide" -> "Contribute as a Translator" , but not optimal | 14:02 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: yes, but thats not the normal case where people looking for. We had this discussion during PTG | 14:04 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, oh really - I might have missed some logs or could not find logs | 14:04 |
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| ianychoi | In fact, another problem is: even users click "Code & Documentation", users cannot find how to contribute documentation | 14:05 |
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| eumel8 | ianychoi: that's another problem ;) | 14:05 |
| ianychoi | IMO it would be great if the name "Code & Documentation" is changed to "Codes", one section "Documentation & Translation" is created, and doc-contrib-guide & i18n-contributor-guide are mentioned on the section. | 14:07 |
| ianychoi | In this case, pencil icon would be more suitable to "Documentation & Translation". For "Codes", some other icon would be nice. | 14:08 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-rocky L170 | 14:08 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, thx for your pointer. How about my suggestion? | 14:10 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: yes, we had the same discussion. The situation is improved now, but not in the right way ;) | 14:11 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, or just telling: "Go to the bottom and find 'Contribute translations'" currently :) | 14:13 |
| jamesmcarthur | ianychoi: eumel8: so the rework of the Code & Documentation portion is based on https://www.openstack.org/assets/openstack-map/openstack-map-v2017112.pdf | 14:16 |
| jamesmcarthur | Docs and Translation are both listed at the bottom under resources | 14:16 |
| jamesmcarthur | I can suggest some changes to the Community piece on our weekly call today... | 14:17 |
| jamesmcarthur | But for the moment, I'm not authorized to make too many changes | 14:17 |
| jamesmcarthur | I did go ahead and list Translation under "Web Frontend" | 14:17 |
| eumel8 | jamesmcarthur: thx, bether than nothing | 14:20 |
| jamesmcarthur | yeah... it's not ideal, i understand | 14:20 |
| eumel8 | I would also expect that documentation and translation button is on each project category because there are both on each project anchored | 14:21 |
| eumel8 | but you can discuss that | 14:21 |
| jamesmcarthur | well, the documentation is linked from teh homepage of each project | 14:23 |
| ianychoi | I am not sure where the picture was brought - https://www.slideshare.net/TakashiTorii/201708-openstack-seminar-in-myanmar#21 - it is rather difficult how to explain or cover for project names on the bottom + Documentation | 14:23 |
| eumel8 | jamesmcarthur: that's good | 14:24 |
| jamesmcarthur | ianychoi: that's an old slide | 14:25 |
| jamesmcarthur | not suer where that came from, but it's definitely not the most up to date, which is available at o.o/software | 14:25 |
| ianychoi | jamesmcarthur, from my understanding of current latest version of openstack-map as you shared, the possible reason of no mention on Documentation, I18n, Infrastructure, Release Management, ... would be because those are cross projects, those projects are difficult to visualize on the map, or those projects do not have Python packages. Am I understanding with right approach? | 14:28 |
| jamesmcarthur | That's my understanding, yes. | 14:29 |
| jamesmcarthur | The map is intended to help identify projects would go into an OpenStack environment, not necessarily which projects support the community. | 14:30 |
| jamesmcarthur | A good place to raise this question is TC office hours. THey might be able to provide some more definitive answers. | 14:31 |
| ianychoi | jamesmcarthur, thanks for your opinions. I have been just thinking how to more visualize those projects on www.o.o/community page and identifying whether separating projects on the map and other projects into different sections would be nice or not. | 14:33 |
| jamesmcarthur | ianychoi: it's a good question | 14:34 |
| jamesmcarthur | that code is on the git repo if you want to propose some changes :) | 14:34 |
| jamesmcarthur | Ultimately, I need to run these past diablorojo and ttx | 14:35 |
| ianychoi | Haha, yep - ttx mainly involves in openstack map and diablorojo mainly involves in First Contact SIG :) | 14:36 |
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