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openstackgerrit | Kenji Ishii proposed openstack/horizon: Improve validation for pseudo-folder name https://review.openstack.org/243625 | 01:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Kenji Ishii proposed openstack/horizon: Modify issue that a image is not displayed in ng-launch instance wizard https://review.openstack.org/260601 | 01:50 |
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reedip | review requested: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264591/3 | 02:45 |
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wangliwei | Hi | 03:42 |
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wangliwei | I think I met an horizon issue about hypervisor duplicated in the horizon UI. | 03:43 |
wangliwei | I am using ICM 4.3 with VMware. | 03:44 |
wangliwei | Issue Description: | 03:44 |
wangliwei | When connecting 2 different datastores to the same cluster, the hypervisor information are duplicated. | 03:44 |
wangliwei | Need to pint that, even their ID are different which you can see when running nova hypervisor-list command, but it still difficult for users to recognize them, which makes Horizon UI not so kind. | 03:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Richard Jones proposed openstack/horizon: Add recursive deletion to Swift UI https://review.openstack.org/296173 | 04:44 |
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prometheanfire | is it normal for uwsgi horizon to be so slow? | 05:26 |
r1chardj0n3s | prometheanfire: do you have compression turned on? | 05:27 |
prometheanfire | gzip on; | 05:28 |
prometheanfire | also, when setting the static alias I loose my unicodeish icons | 05:28 |
prometheanfire | should I have it turned off? this is over https as well | 05:29 |
prometheanfire | what I mean by slow is server page taking 5 sec to load | 05:31 |
r1chardj0n3s | prometheanfire: I mean COMPRESS=True in the horizon local_settings | 05:31 |
r1chardj0n3s | (sorry, wandered away there for a moment) | 05:32 |
prometheanfire | maCOMPRESS_ENABLED = True | 05:33 |
prometheanfire | COMPRESS_ENABLED = True | 05:33 |
r1chardj0n3s | right. hmm | 05:33 |
prometheanfire | in openstack_dashboard/settings.py | 05:33 |
prometheanfire | and in nginx | 05:33 |
prometheanfire | I should probably turn that off | 05:33 |
prometheanfire | in horizon | 05:33 |
r1chardj0n3s | so in your browser, where's the delay in the network traffic? | 05:33 |
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r1chardj0n3s | (open developer tools -> network, reload) | 05:34 |
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prometheanfire | the initial get | 05:36 |
r1chardj0n3s | hmm. there's gonna be some API calls before that returns - do you have a good connection from Horizon to the backend servers? | 05:37 |
prometheanfire | all on the same host | 05:37 |
r1chardj0n3s | do you get the delay on the login screen? | 05:38 |
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prometheanfire | yes | 05:39 |
prometheanfire | I'm thinking I don't have my webserver set up right | 05:42 |
r1chardj0n3s | hmm, I'm not sure what's going on | 05:42 |
prometheanfire | when I alias /static to a dir as the example docs show I get 404 | 05:42 |
r1chardj0n3s | to be honest, I've never set up Horizon behind a server, sorry | 05:43 |
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prometheanfire | lol | 05:44 |
prometheanfire | removing the alias helps a little | 05:44 |
r1chardj0n3s | just to note though, running the *django development server* I get almost instant reloads of the login page | 05:44 |
r1chardj0n3s | hmm | 05:44 |
prometheanfire | but it's a 20 sec timeout somewhere | 05:44 |
r1chardj0n3s | perhaps the server can't write the compressed files? a permissions issue? | 05:44 |
prometheanfire | shouldn't be | 05:44 |
r1chardj0n3s | 'cos if it can't write those files then it has to re-generate them every request, which is definitely gonna be slow | 05:45 |
prometheanfire | that could be it | 05:45 |
r1chardj0n3s | it's going to want to write them into static/dashboard/css/<hash>.css and static/dashboard/js/<hash>.js | 05:46 |
r1chardj0n3s | wherever static is (defined by STATIC_ROOT) | 05:47 |
prometheanfire | seems to be defined in a few places | 05:49 |
prometheanfire | openstack_dashboard/settings.py: STATIC_ROOT = os.path.abspath(os.path.join(ROOT_PATH, '..', 'static')) | 05:49 |
r1chardj0n3s | prometheanfire: so if you define it at the top of the file (default is None) then those other places will not be executed | 05:49 |
r1chardj0n3s | (or if you define it in the local_settings.py file | 05:50 |
r1chardj0n3s | basically, it'll only be defaulted to that if you don't explicitly set it to something | 05:50 |
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prometheanfire | ah, ok | 05:51 |
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prometheanfire | huh, it's doing the javascript inline on the page now | 05:59 |
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prometheanfire | setting this causes it to be slow | 06:02 |
prometheanfire | #COMPRESS_OFFLINE = True | 06:02 |
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r1chardj0n3s | ah, so compress_offline means you're running django-admin compress manually | 06:08 |
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r1chardj0n3s | saves dealing with the permissions issue I mentioned | 06:08 |
r1chardj0n3s | prometheanfire: ^ | 06:08 |
r1chardj0n3s | (or run_tests.sh -m compress) | 06:09 |
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prometheanfire | I also set debug to false | 06:13 |
r1chardj0n3s | did the file system permisions thing for compression pan out? | 06:14 |
prometheanfire | that helped | 06:17 |
prometheanfire | I actually symlink openstack_dashboard/static to static | 06:17 |
prometheanfire | or the logo wouldn't load | 06:17 |
r1chardj0n3s | right, you need to run collectstatic if you define a different STATIC_ROOT I guess | 06:18 |
prometheanfire | run_tests method? | 06:18 |
r1chardj0n3s | should be run_tests.sh -m collectstatic | 06:18 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/horizon: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/296195 | 06:18 |
r1chardj0n3s | or ./manage.py collectstatic | 06:19 |
r1chardj0n3s | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/topics/install.html has it as optional step 4 but I reckon if you move STATIC_ROOT you still need to run collectstatic | 06:19 |
prometheanfire | ok, think I got it now | 06:20 |
prometheanfire | didn't need the symlink, just needed to collect | 06:20 |
r1chardj0n3s | yep | 06:20 |
r1chardj0n3s | and you can turn on COMPRESS_OFFLINE = True if you also run the compress command | 06:20 |
r1chardj0n3s | that will help the permissions, but also the first request won't be slow too | 06:20 |
prometheanfire | well, it's quick now | 06:21 |
prometheanfire | Request Header Or Cookie Too Large | 06:21 |
prometheanfire | which is neat | 06:21 |
r1chardj0n3s | yikes | 06:22 |
r1chardj0n3s | so you might want to switch session stores | 06:22 |
r1chardj0n3s | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/topics/deployment.html#session-storage | 06:22 |
r1chardj0n3s | local memory cache is good enough for most | 06:22 |
prometheanfire | I am using memcached already | 06:23 |
r1chardj0n3s | oh | 06:23 |
r1chardj0n3s | and yet "Request Header Or Cookie Too Large"?? | 06:23 |
r1chardj0n3s | I wonder what the header is that's causing that? | 06:23 |
prometheanfire | dunno | 06:24 |
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r1chardj0n3s | the only header I'm aware of that gets super large is the session cookie, but that's not going to be an issue if you've configured memcached as the session store | 06:27 |
prometheanfire | I did enable these options | 06:28 |
prometheanfire | CSRF_COOKIE_HTTPONLY = True | 06:28 |
prometheanfire | SESSION_COOKIE_HTTPONLY = True | 06:28 |
prometheanfire | CSRF_COOKIE_SECURE = True | 06:28 |
prometheanfire | SESSION_COOKIE_SECURE = True | 06:28 |
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prometheanfire | client_header_buffer_size 1k; | 06:29 |
prometheanfire | large_client_header_buffers 4 2k; | 06:29 |
prometheanfire | those might be too small | 06:29 |
prometheanfire | yep, large was it | 06:30 |
prometheanfire | time to first load once logged in is now 4.6 sec | 06:31 |
prometheanfire | sound right? | 06:31 |
r1chardj0n3s | that's the overview page? yeah, probably about right. slow APIs gonna be slow | 06:31 |
prometheanfire | yep | 06:31 |
prometheanfire | back and forth | 06:31 |
r1chardj0n3s | is why we're angularising, like the new swift ui | 06:32 |
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prometheanfire | 3 sec for server listing | 06:33 |
prometheanfire | 2.6 | 06:33 |
prometheanfire | so not bad anymore :D | 06:33 |
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prometheanfire | thanks for the walkthrough :D | 06:33 |
prometheanfire | oh ya, don't know if you want this for your horizon docs | 06:35 |
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prometheanfire | this is the header combo that works for Content-Security | 06:35 |
prometheanfire | add_header Content-Security-Policy "default-src 'self'; script-src 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' 'self'; style-src 'unsafe-inline' 'self'; frame-src 'self';"; | 06:35 |
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wangbo | 3 sec sounds bad, you could run 'nova list' by CLI to test api response time | 06:41 |
r1chardj0n3s | wangbo: there's other requests Horizon runs as well, and they're all done sequentially | 06:41 |
prometheanfire | real0m2.061s | 06:42 |
prometheanfire | compared to 2.6 in the browser | 06:42 |
prometheanfire | so I'm happy enough | 06:43 |
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prometheanfire | well, nn | 06:45 |
prometheanfire | cya later r1chardj0n3s | 06:46 |
r1chardj0n3s | nn prometheanfire | 06:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Yury Tregubov proposed openstack/horizon: Added update image metadata test https://review.openstack.org/271249 | 06:53 |
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wangbo | r1chardj0n3s, yes, need flavor_list, image_list, network_info. angular async could save time | 06:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Kenji Ishii proposed openstack/horizon: Checkbox for inline edit is themable https://review.openstack.org/296251 | 08:22 |
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robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Whenever I read scrollback like that the engineer in me JS didnt invent async :p | 09:12 |
robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: always wants to point out that* | 09:13 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: haha, I know right :-) | 09:13 |
r1chardj0n3s | I learned async programming twisted, like all crazy people should ;-) | 09:13 |
r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: BTW Ipushed up a patch that should make a lot of people happy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296173/ | 09:14 |
r1chardj0n3s | *that* was recursively-asychronously-mind-bendingly interesting to write | 09:14 |
robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Yes I saw that! Look at you go. I should just rename the project to "Swift UI" and be done with it. | 09:14 |
r1chardj0n3s | :-P | 09:14 |
r1chardj0n3s | sadly, there's only so far we can go with swift ... the basic filtering patch has been all but rejected, and my champion there is going to be MIA for a few weeks :/ | 09:15 |
r1chardj0n3s | and without basic filtering, there's really not a lot that can be done usefully over large swift installs without searchlight | 09:15 |
robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: "Only so far" is about a million times better than before. | 09:15 |
robcresswell | Yeah, understood. | 09:16 |
r1chardj0n3s | well, yeah, but I reckon no-one has noticed that the file listing stops at [whatever large number they've configured] and doesn't go any further | 09:16 |
robcresswell | :p | 09:16 |
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r1chardj0n3s | I *can* make it scroll/paginate into the 10s of thousands of files listings, but that UI is utterly useless, really | 09:16 |
r1chardj0n3s | without basic filtering | 09:17 |
r1chardj0n3s | and TWC gonna TWC, after all | 09:17 |
robcresswell | How far can we push angular before it starts to get slow? | 09:17 |
robcresswell | w/ optimised watchers and other perf suggestions | 09:17 |
robcresswell | Would be interested to see what volume starts to make it unusable. | 09:18 |
r1chardj0n3s | it's actually mostly in the wire transfer, which can be addressed with on-demand loading (scroll / pagination jumps) but as I said, you're still looking at 20-50 entries at a time out of 10s of thousands fetched out of potentially millions on the actual server | 09:18 |
robcresswell | Assuming the average person isnt running Chrome Dev with 16gig of RAM for it to devour. | 09:18 |
robcresswell | Sure | 09:19 |
r1chardj0n3s | smart table itself can pagination a very, very large number of rows | 09:19 |
r1chardj0n3s | can pagination | 09:19 |
r1chardj0n3s | lol | 09:19 |
robcresswell | Words are tough | 09:19 |
r1chardj0n3s | I have had one glass of wine already, I make no warranties over my typing or spelling ;-) | 09:19 |
robcresswell | I'm totally sober and its 9:19 and I still missed out half a sentence so I wouldnt worry | 09:19 |
r1chardj0n3s | :-) | 09:19 |
r1chardj0n3s | still sober? but it's past 9am!! | 09:20 |
robcresswell | I can't believe that pub wouldnt serve me. | 09:21 |
r1chardj0n3s | clearly not staffed by Aussies | 09:21 |
robcresswell | It was very British though, we had a cup of tea instead | 09:21 |
r1chardj0n3s | :-0 | 09:21 |
r1chardj0n3s | :-) | 09:21 |
r1chardj0n3s | "Un-un-publishing is an unprecedented action that we're taking given the severity and widespread nature of breakage, and isn't done lightly," | 09:22 |
robcresswell | Ooh this was interesting | 09:23 |
r1chardj0n3s | hey, here's a thought: maybe the removal of Kik was an unprecedented action | 09:23 |
r1chardj0n3s | *cough* | 09:23 |
r1chardj0n3s | anyway | 09:23 |
r1chardj0n3s | I should stop reading El Reg | 09:23 |
robcresswell | So if NPM are liable, I'm not entirely sure what else they could've done? | 09:23 |
r1chardj0n3s | talked to the developer, at a minimum | 09:23 |
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robcresswell | Ah, I thought they had asked him to remove it | 09:23 |
r1chardj0n3s | sounds like they went straight to cover-our-own-asses-be-damned-other-people's-property | 09:23 |
robcresswell | and he err... politely declined. | 09:24 |
r1chardj0n3s | no, the *Kik* folks did | 09:24 |
robcresswell | Ah I see. | 09:24 |
robcresswell | Oh well thats a huge fail then. | 09:24 |
robcresswell | Put people behind a keyboard and suddenly all civil communication seems to fly out of the window :( | 09:25 |
r1chardj0n3s | mmm | 09:25 |
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r1chardj0n3s | oddly enough though, there's a lot of commentary about "silly Javascript developers, why are they using all these little dependencies?" | 09:27 |
r1chardj0n3s | which I just do not get | 09:27 |
robcresswell | I think JS and largely web development struggle to be taken seriously compared to other development | 09:28 |
robcresswell | Its stupid | 09:28 |
r1chardj0n3s | yeah | 09:28 |
robcresswell | And people like to hop on the bandwagon of "oh lol JS is bad and you developers are bad" | 09:29 |
robcresswell | Its like the Kernel guys judging the userspace folks | 09:29 |
robcresswell | All the bootcamps etc dont help with the perception of web dev imo. | 09:29 |
robcresswell | anyway I'm getting off topic :p | 09:30 |
r1chardj0n3s | yeah. I like to rage at Javascript as much as the next guy (omg undefined, WHYYYYYY) but there are folks doing some amazing stuff that they probably wouldn't be doing in a non-Javascript universe | 09:30 |
robcresswell | Totally | 09:31 |
tsufiev | agree with you both, gentlemen :) | 09:33 |
r1chardj0n3s | ohai tsufiev! | 09:33 |
tsufiev | evening/morning, r1chardj0n3s :) | 09:33 |
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tsufiev | I think it's some kind of snobbery which makes python/C/Java devs think: you're not doing real stuff if you're writing for browser | 09:34 |
r1chardj0n3s | well, and there's that whole undefined thing | 09:35 |
r1chardj0n3s | though C has NULL, so it can't talk | 09:35 |
tsufiev | well, I could only excuse C devs because they are dealing with memory management | 09:35 |
r1chardj0n3s | though Javascript's willingness to just "eh, whatever" at undefined is a little grating, at least C had the good grace to SEGFAULT | 09:35 |
itxaka | ahhhh, don't agree there at all! Feels like javascript makes it much easier to write crappy code than other languages allow, so maybe thats what the feeling of JS being bad comes from | 09:35 |
itxaka | just look at my JS code for examples lol | 09:36 |
tsufiev | itxaka, have you seen VBA codes? | 09:36 |
tsufiev | I mean programs in VBA | 09:36 |
itxaka | vadre retro VBA | 09:36 |
itxaka | not a lot thankfully | 09:36 |
tsufiev | Visual Basic (Application?) | 09:37 |
tsufiev | I've written few Excel macros in it in the past | 09:37 |
robcresswell | itxaka: To an extent. You can write crap code in any language, although more so in langs with relaxed rules like Python. Not quite as easy to do in stricter langs like Java IMO. | 09:37 |
robcresswell | libs like jquery encourage crap code. | 09:37 |
itxaka | robcresswell, thats my point, its not about the language being good or bad,but the constrains that it imposes into noob developers | 09:38 |
robcresswell | But I think its more the philosophy. There are a lot of web devs who just wnt to hop in and code. I imagine most would learn alot by doing their own memory management for a while :) | 09:38 |
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itxaka | some of the js stuff that I done on the side to learn it its _really_ bad, but it somehow works | 09:38 |
itxaka | when dealing with java for example, I felt that it was easier to keep on the "good" path | 09:39 |
robcresswell | True, but you could make similar judgements about Python and Ruby | 09:40 |
tsufiev | http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016 yet JS rules the world :) | 09:40 |
itxaka | Python and Ruby seem to encourage one style of writing things, which I believe makes it easier to follow the correct path if learning by examples/code around | 09:42 |
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itxaka | JS examples/codes are all over the place with different styles | 09:44 |
itxaka | unless you follow stack overflow and use query for everything lmao | 09:44 |
itxaka | *jquery | 09:45 |
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robcresswell | Again though, I think a lot of this comes back to the dev philosophy of a lot of people who learn JS. Its because they want visible front end changes and they see JS as a low barrier way to do this. | 09:46 |
robcresswell | Which is good, its accessible and grows the community, but rapid growth also brings noise. | 09:46 |
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robcresswell | Thing is, disparaging generalisations don't help anyway, they just make the speaker feel high and mighty and the receiver doesnt learn anything. | 09:47 |
robcresswell | tsufiev: Do you want me to do fixes for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280222/ ? | 09:48 |
tsufiev | robcresswell, yes, if you don't mind. I was going to return to osprofiler stuff finally | 09:49 |
robcresswell | tsufiev: Sure, thats fine. I'll address itxaka's comment later today | 09:49 |
tsufiev | robcresswell, thanks! | 09:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/296195 | 10:40 |
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k-ishii | Hi, | 10:55 |
k-ishii | Could anyone let me how to reactivate the abandoned patch ? | 10:55 |
robcresswell | Hit restore on gerrit k-ishii | 10:55 |
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k-ishii | I'd like to work "bp/hierarchical-project" like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119469/. | 10:56 |
openstackgerrit | Paul Karikh proposed openstack/horizon: Improve quota unit tests coverage https://review.openstack.org/285390 | 10:57 |
k-ishii | @robcresswell Thank you! but i couldn't find a restore button on gerrit.. | 10:57 |
robcresswell | k-ishii: Are you signed in? Anyone should be able to restore a patch | 10:58 |
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robcresswell | https://i.imgur.com/uQbgtjj.png k-ishii | 10:58 |
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itxaka | can confirm I also cannot restore that patch | 11:00 |
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itxaka | maybe its only for cores? | 11:00 |
robcresswell | Huh. | 11:00 |
robcresswell | I thought anyone could. | 11:00 |
k-ishii | @robcresswell Yes, but I can see only cherrypick button. | 11:00 |
robcresswell | I've restored it anyway. | 11:00 |
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k-ishii | @robcresswell Thank you so much! I can work! | 11:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Kenji Ishii proposed openstack/horizon: Create Hierarchical Projects https://review.openstack.org/119469 | 11:05 |
pkarikh | itxaka: yep, looks like you should be an owner of the patch to restore it | 11:07 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Pay attention to Nova disabled quotas defined in a config file https://review.openstack.org/215277 | 11:12 |
robcresswell | k-ishii: No worries. FYI, you don't need the @ sign on IRC. Just the name to ping. | 11:16 |
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k-ishii | robcresswell: All right! Thank you for your help :) | 11:25 |
pkarikh | robcresswell: hi! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227142/ looks like this patch of lhcheng got a lot of +1 and even one +2 :) | 11:25 |
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robcresswell | Yeah I'm not on the stable team :) | 11:26 |
pkarikh | oh, ok :) | 11:31 |
robcresswell | Horizon meeting in 28 mins btw | 11:32 |
robcresswell | #openstack-meeting-3 | 11:32 |
robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s_afk: If we shifted the 1200 UTC meeting earlier (8/9 UTC), would that be easier? | 11:32 |
robcresswell | I'm not sure who the 1200 UTC meeting is supposed to be convenient for. Both meetings are bad for anyone past the UTC + 5 line. | 11:33 |
tsufiev | robcresswell, early-risers on east coast maybe :)? | 11:34 |
robcresswell | tsufiev: Heh. I might propose to move it earlier one so its more accessible for those in east asia | 11:35 |
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r1chardj0n3s_afk | robcresswell: moving the 1200 UTC back to 0800/0900 would move it earlier in my evening, which would be more convenient yes :-) | 11:50 |
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robcresswell | k-ishii: Are you still working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1534495 ? | 11:54 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1534495 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Some panels is not set proper policy rules" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Kenji Ishii (ken-ishii) | 11:54 |
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robcresswell | Meeting in 5, mrunge, tsufiev. It seems timing got mucked up around the midcycle. | 11:56 |
robcresswell | my fault :) | 11:56 |
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k-ishii | robcresswell: No, this work are not yet started. I'd like to work someday but it doesn't decide yet. | 12:15 |
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openstackgerrit | zhurong proposed openstack/horizon: Remove the DeleteInstance action unused classes https://review.openstack.org/296405 | 12:28 |
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tsufiev | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/23/npm_left_pad_chaos/?mt=1458720804410 | 12:39 |
tsufiev | robcresswell, ^^ is it the news you were discussing this morning? | 12:39 |
robcresswell | tsufiev: Yeah :) | 12:39 |
matt-borland | oh geez | 12:40 |
tsufiev | npm haters got one more reason to hate it :) | 12:40 |
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david-lyle_ | more reason was needed? | 12:50 |
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matt-borland | yeah, I don't think anyone loves npm... :) | 12:59 |
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david-lyle_ | tripleO-ui announced written in reactjs, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090199.html | 13:06 |
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matt-borland | TravT, I know there's more we'd like out of the tables directive eventually, but with one fix to resultHandler, I'd like to merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252014/ asap. | 13:09 |
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matt-borland | we can do follow-ons if there are other features...I'd prefer to focus on busting magic search out of the tables. | 13:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Pay attention to Nova disabled quotas defined in a config file https://review.openstack.org/215277 | 13:35 |
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robcresswell | david-lyle_: Thats interesting | 14:08 |
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matt-borland | everything is treated equally | 14:25 |
matt-borland | whether a "core" element or an extension of some sort | 14:25 |
matt-borland | A resource type has actions (extensible), views (extensible), and can provide those views/actions through generic providers | 14:26 |
robcresswell | Right | 14:27 |
robcresswell | And this is mainly for searchlight to latch on to | 14:27 |
TravT | no, it is not just searchlight. | 14:28 |
robcresswell | *mainly* not *just* | 14:28 |
TravT | for example, i was talking to david about the network topology | 14:28 |
robcresswell | I thought that was the driving force, unless I misunderstood? | 14:28 |
TravT | robcresswell it is the main reason we started it, because with searchlight, it exposed how coupled the panels and their actions were. | 14:29 |
robcresswell | TravT: Yep, in python now all the details pages just render table actions | 14:29 |
robcresswell | very literally tied together | 14:29 |
TravT | but if you look at the network topology, ideally, it should be able to get the available actions and details views from the registry | 14:30 |
TravT | based on their type | 14:30 |
TravT | with searchlight it is particularly useful of course. | 14:31 |
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robcresswell | Sure | 14:31 |
robcresswell | This is just spawned from me looking through the table directive patch | 14:32 |
TravT | yeah, we had some good discussion on the dependent patch for making images use it as well | 14:33 |
TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285002/ | 14:33 |
robcresswell | trying to work out what should or shouldnt be in there. I think we can drop table-rsp and just do it via SCSS specific to each table. | 14:33 |
tsufiev | robcresswell, TravT: I guess the whole concept can be used not only in Search/Navigation layout, but also in, say, Admin Overview layout which could become a customizable set of tiles - yet every tile will have a derived set of actions available for it | 14:33 |
TravT | robcresswell: re: rsp-classes. we'd need to talk about scss specific to each table further to understand what you are thinking | 14:35 |
TravT | tsufiev: that's an interesting idea as well. | 14:35 |
tsufiev | TravT, I would call it 'contextualizing Horizon actions' | 14:35 |
robcresswell | tsufiev: Overview really needs some work, so yeah. There's a session at the summit about UX improvements, put it under there | 14:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Borland proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: Composable Details Views https://review.openstack.org/292936 | 14:39 |
robcresswell | TravT: So my current thinking is to just give every table col a contextual class like `images-name-col`. This could already be done automatically in the python tables. And then Horizon can provide defaults that extend bootstraps hidden-* utility classes. | 14:39 |
TravT | robcresswell maybe you could prototype that up with a patch that does that for ng-images | 14:40 |
robcresswell | TravT: Yeah I'd follow it on the table directive patch. The main advantage is it makes the responsiveness customisable per table without touching any JS or Python. | 14:41 |
robcresswell | Currently all you can do is change the rsp breakpoint | 14:42 |
robcresswell | Which would affect everything | 14:42 |
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robcresswell | matt-borland, TravT: whats the angular aim with Admin/Project? Because its a fuzzy line nowadays | 14:44 |
TravT | well, on a per panel basis, i think it could still act like what we do now... | 14:46 |
TravT | on the searchlight panel, i'm actually going to just add it as a magic search facet | 14:46 |
TravT | that if you are admin, you'll get another facet called all projects. | 14:46 |
TravT | and can just toggle it on and off | 14:46 |
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david-lyle_ | what dash does the searchlight panel live in? | 14:47 |
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TravT | right now, project. | 14:47 |
robcresswell | I'm wondering about whether we should be thinking about panels being generic, and just retrieve data based on the multitude of permissions | 14:47 |
TravT | not sure if there is something better | 14:47 |
david-lyle | starting to put cross project info in a project specific data listing is problematic IMO | 14:47 |
david-lyle | robcresswell: that was once my intent | 14:48 |
david-lyle | but.. | 14:48 |
matt-borland | robcresswell, sorry, was away | 14:48 |
david-lyle | I think there is value in showing the resources in the project you are scoped to | 14:48 |
matt-borland | I am of the opinion that the admin/project concept goes away navigationally | 14:48 |
david-lyle | and then a separate view for cross-project data | 14:48 |
TravT | david-lyle, i definitely agree | 14:48 |
david-lyle | because | 14:48 |
david-lyle | it becomes more confusing to the user as to just where there action is taking place | 14:49 |
david-lyle | and on what when you show all the things | 14:49 |
robcresswell | But, is there a neater way to do that than having entirely separate panels for it? Could you just have a switch in the top right of "Instances" for example, that an admin can toggle for cross-project? | 14:49 |
TravT | that within a project view as a user it makes sense... but for search results, i'm not sure we should force admins to run off to a new panel to get all search results. | 14:50 |
robcresswell | Ah, thats true I suppose. | 14:50 |
TravT | that permissions on an action are true... even launch instance has a latent patch to be able to choose the project | 14:50 |
david-lyle | robcresswell: sure, we could have tabs or a toggle, but again that separation is confusing | 14:50 |
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david-lyle | it gets more complicated thinking about regions too | 14:50 |
TravT | but the problem with launch instance is that the data retrieved to launch the instance is project specific | 14:50 |
robcresswell | david-lyle: Yeah, I'm just wondering how to better handle the overhead from having two distinct panels | 14:50 |
TravT | so letting somebody choose the project as part of the workflow is too late. | 14:51 |
david-lyle | really at some point you could have this combinatorial explosion of data listed by cross-project cross-region | 14:51 |
matt-borland | I don't think "keeping them separated" is a good approach. | 14:51 |
david-lyle | matt-borland: explain | 14:52 |
matt-borland | I'm looking at this from the Search perspective, and from that of viewing resources. | 14:52 |
david-lyle | matt-borland: search doesn't have to be separated | 14:53 |
david-lyle | but it shouldn't live in project | 14:53 |
matt-borland | yep, that's all I'm saying. yep. | 14:53 |
david-lyle | if you're returning cross-project data | 14:53 |
TravT | david-lyle, where can we put it, it's own dashboard? | 14:53 |
david-lyle | I think the logical spot is in the header | 14:53 |
david-lyle | which we've discussed before | 14:53 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Handle non ASCII tenant names gracefully when downloading RC file https://review.openstack.org/279573 | 14:53 |
TravT | the header is good for quick results, but the table view with actual data and quick access to actions is not something we should lose. | 14:53 |
david-lyle | that is above the classification level | 14:53 |
david-lyle | TravT: the search result can be a table | 14:54 |
david-lyle | even from the header | 14:54 |
david-lyle | why wouldn't it be? | 14:54 |
david-lyle | results could end up in a modal | 14:54 |
david-lyle | full screen modal, but modal | 14:55 |
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david-lyle | I've done such things before, the only catch is maintaining the HTTP_REFERER to return to | 14:56 |
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david-lyle | but that's simple enough | 14:56 |
david-lyle | I think global search is in the header | 14:57 |
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TravT | I like global search in header, just thinking how navigation would work in some cases. | 14:58 |
TravT | that modal should retain the search bar | 14:58 |
TravT | because you can keep filtering | 14:58 |
david-lyle | sure, it can appear as part of the modal | 14:59 |
david-lyle | either by redrawing the modal border or just copying the query into the modal's version of the search field | 15:00 |
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david-lyle | I just think the scope is outside of either dash | 15:00 |
TravT | the actions scope question you bring up still applies | 15:00 |
david-lyle | rbac will show if actions are possible | 15:01 |
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TravT | i think it would be nice if the search also looked into the registry for available creation actions and could show things like Create Image action | 15:02 |
TravT | but if you aren't scoped to a project... | 15:02 |
david-lyle | only a very limited set of users logging in won't be scoped to a project | 15:03 |
david-lyle | domain admins | 15:03 |
TravT | that's true | 15:03 |
david-lyle | the important point is making it clear the project that is the target of your image benevolence | 15:04 |
TravT | well, i'm still thinking of adding a facet for all projects if you are admin. | 15:04 |
david-lyle | but I'm not sure why global actions would appear in search results, unless I'm querying for type:image | 15:04 |
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david-lyle | viz., create image | 15:05 |
robcresswell | david-lyle: Super sketched out, but you're thinking something like this? https://i.imgur.com/hvC6qsM.png | 15:05 |
david-lyle | robcresswell: sure | 15:05 |
TravT | well, just picture at top of ui, you start typing "launch" and it shows you "Launch Instance". You can just click it. | 15:05 |
david-lyle | or bigger | 15:05 |
david-lyle | TravT: but that is in the autocomplete right? | 15:06 |
TravT | you don't have to select "compute, instances, launch" | 15:06 |
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TravT | "project, compute, instances, launch" | 15:06 |
TravT | there was an invision project for that at some point... but it seems to have disappeared. | 15:08 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Do not cache templates in TEMPLATE_DEBUG mode https://review.openstack.org/281976 | 15:08 |
robcresswell | TravT: Wouldnt that really just be a "Create ..." list? | 15:10 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Do not cache templates in TEMPLATE_DEBUG mode https://review.openstack.org/281976 | 15:10 |
david-lyle | I think create and other actions should be more readily available in search or out | 15:11 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: [WIP] start playing with middleware https://review.openstack.org/273085 | 15:11 |
TravT | +1 | 15:11 |
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robcresswell | I wanted to throw user configurable ones int othe header, so that stuff like launch instance or whatever can be instantly accessible | 15:11 |
robcresswell | into the* | 15:12 |
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david-lyle | I liked to proposed quick actions in the nav that were proposed | 15:12 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Provide an integration test for dynamic themes https://review.openstack.org/279185 | 15:12 |
david-lyle | but that's reopening the nav stuff | 15:12 |
robcresswell | reopening the nav stuff? | 15:13 |
david-lyle | switching the menuing | 15:13 |
david-lyle | which it's probably time to do | 15:13 |
robcresswell | Oh the sidebar? | 15:14 |
TravT | quick actions, search, in specific panel, in a widget in overview, etc, etc all great reasons to further decouple actions and register them. | 15:14 |
david-lyle | early in the cycle that is | 15:14 |
david-lyle | TravT: I'm a little confused, how are they coupled now? | 15:14 |
david-lyle | or am I just being angular naive? | 15:15 |
TravT | some of the angular actions are really specific to that panel. | 15:15 |
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TravT | but needlessly | 15:15 |
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david-lyle | because the django ones are not coupled | 15:16 |
david-lyle | ah, ok angular specific again | 15:16 |
david-lyle | yeah coupling them is poor design | 15:16 |
david-lyle | no argument | 15:17 |
david-lyle | decoupling and a registry are different levels | 15:17 |
david-lyle | but both are useful | 15:17 |
TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291846/ | 15:17 |
david-lyle | registry really only helps with search | 15:17 |
TravT | i need to go through that again | 15:17 |
TravT | i disagree it only helps with search. | 15:18 |
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david-lyle | it only helps if I don't already know the type | 15:18 |
david-lyle | which is search | 15:18 |
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betherly | hey hey! ironic-ui v1.1 due to be released this afternoon :) | 15:18 |
robcresswell | Could help if you decided to make a generic topology I suppose. Like for heat etc. | 15:18 |
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david-lyle | betherly: congrats! | 15:19 |
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betherly | robcresswell: sorry ive been super distracted with trying to get bugs fixed but congrats on PTL :) | 15:19 |
betherly | david-lyle: thanks :) | 15:19 |
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robcresswell | betherly: Oh, thanks! | 15:19 |
david-lyle | robcresswell: yes I suppose for dynamic content as well | 15:20 |
david-lyle | I'm not saying it's not a good idea | 15:20 |
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robcresswell | haha | 15:20 |
TravT | i'm also thinking that maybe in overview you could have widgets for each kind of thing you care about and do something like theming to choose which ones to show. | 15:21 |
TravT | and when you enable widget for volumes, perhaps it shows the registered overview chart of volumes and the quick actions for volumes | 15:21 |
david-lyle | TravT: sure, but that doesn't require a registry, just knowledge of the resource type you are displaying | 15:21 |
robcresswell | Frankly, I'd like overview to do something useful before we start thinking about customisation and extension :p | 15:21 |
robcresswell | as in, useful overview | 15:22 |
david-lyle | a registry makes it more programmatic is all | 15:22 |
TravT | yeah, that's kind of my point. | 15:22 |
david-lyle | but it's also limiting | 15:22 |
TravT | it is also potentially more extensible | 15:23 |
robcresswell | Having an overview that was config driven and customisable could be great though. "I want to see these X statistics on my main screen" | 15:23 |
david-lyle | why do I need all 20 instance actions | 15:23 |
TravT | you can just register a module that registers another quick action | 15:23 |
david-lyle | probably just want 3 | 15:23 |
TravT | you really only have a few quick actions. | 15:23 |
TravT | that are overview level | 15:23 |
david-lyle | I always worry about over-engineering a solution before the need arises | 15:24 |
david-lyle | but, I will stress again, I'm not arguing against a registry | 15:24 |
TravT | i think we need a pre-summit meetup. :) | 15:24 |
TravT | in tahiti | 15:24 |
david-lyle | can you handle rum robcresswell? | 15:25 |
david-lyle | :D | 15:25 |
hurgleburgler | \o/ | 15:25 |
TravT | :D | 15:25 |
robcresswell | Just no tequila | 15:25 |
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david-lyle | as long as the boundaries are clear | 15:25 |
betherly | robcresswell: tequila is nice! :p | 15:25 |
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TravT | it makes robcresswell feel like somebody punched his brain | 15:26 |
robcresswell | betherly: It was, before the midcycle | 15:26 |
robcresswell | betherly: Now its a bad bad thing | 15:26 |
betherly | robcresswell: ohhh lol! | 15:26 |
david-lyle | PTL == pain to liver | 15:26 |
betherly | hahahaha! | 15:26 |
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itxaka | damn,I need to get me to the next mid cycle then, sounds like a great time to...talk...and...stuff. | 15:26 |
TravT | speaking of which, how many of you are planning to stay Friday at the summit | 15:27 |
betherly | itxaka: ++ ;) | 15:27 |
david-lyle | o/ | 15:27 |
robcresswell | TravT: I'm there saturday - saturday | 15:27 |
betherly | TravT: Ill be there until saturday | 15:27 |
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TravT | okay... I might look at plane tickets today | 15:28 |
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TravT | okay, i haven't eaten breakfast, gotta step away. | 15:29 |
david-lyle | oh yeah, tickets :( | 15:29 |
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david-lyle | are those important | 15:29 |
betherly | david-lyle: nahh not so much | 15:29 |
david-lyle | :) | 15:29 |
TravT | no, you could just go hop on greyhound | 15:29 |
betherly | youre in america right? you could walk cross state! | 15:29 |
betherly | :p | 15:30 |
TravT | betherly: that'd be like walking across spain, france, and germany | 15:30 |
david-lyle | drive the family truckster | 15:30 |
betherly | TravT: i know :p it would be mental. probably further than that actually lol | 15:31 |
robcresswell | TravT: You need to study some geography :p | 15:31 |
david-lyle | 14 hr drive | 15:31 |
david-lyle | as we can drive quickyl | 15:32 |
betherly | i should try driving from the UK. there must be a secret underground passage somewhere right? | 15:32 |
david-lyle | 981 miles | 15:32 |
TravT | robcresswell: | 15:32 |
TravT | here to austin | 15:33 |
TravT | http://tinyurl.com/golno6r | 15:33 |
david-lyle | 2059 km middle of spain to middle of germany | 15:33 |
TravT | madrid to frankfurt | 15:33 |
TravT | http://tinyurl.com/hrzhgxe | 15:33 |
hurgleburgler | Its only a 311h walk | 15:34 |
hurgleburgler | come on | 15:34 |
david-lyle | 1578KM to austin | 15:34 |
betherly | hurgleburgler: ++ | 15:34 |
betherly | :'D | 15:34 |
openstackgerrit | Tyr Johanson proposed openstack/horizon: Images tables uses action promises https://review.openstack.org/291846 | 15:34 |
david-lyle | well this is getting productive :P | 15:34 |
hurgleburgler | Woo hoo, I'd only have to walk 288h | 15:34 |
TravT | yeah, back to breakfast. | 15:35 |
TravT | :) | 15:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Ankur proposed openstack/horizon: Add Network IP Availability Extension https://review.openstack.org/283171 | 15:50 |
robcresswell | TravT: Ha just saw your reply, my implication was more that going UK > Spain > France > Germany made no sense :p | 15:51 |
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david-lyle | scenic boat ride to start things off? | 15:52 |
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robcresswell | haha | 15:53 |
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zigo | david-lyle: Hi! | 15:57 |
zigo | david-lyle: Do you know if there's a new version of the app-catalog-ui ? | 15:57 |
zigo | It's still missing, and I'm guessing the old Liberty 1.0.0 release will stop working, no? | 15:58 |
zigo | robcresswell: Do you know? | 15:58 |
david-lyle | zigo I do not know | 15:58 |
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david-lyle | zigo, kfox1111 would be the person to ask, but I don't see him online | 16:00 |
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zigo | Ah, I didn't know his nick name, thanks. | 16:00 |
robcresswell | zigo: Yeah, people should really use obvious nicks huh :) | 16:01 |
zigo | :) | 16:01 |
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zigo | robcresswell: I'm fine with everyone calling me by my nick name... | 16:02 |
robcresswell | zigo: Ha, I was just implying sometimes its difficult to track people down if they obscure their name | 16:02 |
zigo | robcresswell: When I joined Mirantis a year and a half ago, they were chatting in Russian on IRC. That wasn't easy... :P | 16:03 |
zigo | Lucky, this has stopped. | 16:03 |
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david-lyle | zigo, talk about learning curves | 16:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Borland proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: Generic details display framework https://review.openstack.org/296590 | 16:24 |
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tsufiev | zigo, I could tell the same story, but 'they' suddenly began chatting in English. Imagine how unusual it was for me :) | 16:34 |
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robcresswell | haha | 16:35 |
robcresswell | poor tsufiev :( | 16:35 |
sjmc7 | i suspect this stems from the english habit of speaking loudly and slowly at foreigners rather than learning their language | 16:35 |
tsufiev | lol ) | 16:36 |
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tsufiev | robcresswell, kidding, of course :D | 16:36 |
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robcresswell | sjmc7: Er, I suspect it stems from our habit of invading anywhere we hasnt previously invaded | 16:37 |
robcresswell | The "oh that looks nice, I'll take it" attitude to managing your country. | 16:38 |
sjmc7 | i think we can all agree that we should apologise for it, whatever it is | 16:38 |
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tsufiev | robcresswell, according to my colleague Britain has been invading other countries in an attempt to escape from British cuisine | 16:39 |
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robcresswell | Fight about it and then have a pint together afterwards | 16:39 |
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sjmc7 | hahahaha | 16:39 |
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tsufiev | we called it the ultimate weapon of mass destruction | 16:39 |
tsufiev | s/we/he/ | 16:39 |
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robcresswell | I believe back in the day we had a solid diet of potatoes and apples | 16:39 |
tsufiev | wait, potatoes came from America | 16:40 |
robcresswell | dammit | 16:40 |
tsufiev | apples and turnip? | 16:40 |
openstackgerrit | Matt Borland proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: Images uses generic/extensible details views https://review.openstack.org/296601 | 16:40 |
sjmc7 | i think it was mutton prior to that | 16:40 |
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tsufiev | somehow this Wednesday feels like a Friday :/ | 16:41 |
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sjmc7 | i’m still exhausted from the RC1 push | 16:41 |
hurgleburgler | It does feel like a Friday! | 16:41 |
david-lyle | some projects finished that before yesterday sjmc7 | 16:42 |
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sjmc7 | and yet i learn nothing! | 16:42 |
david-lyle | haha | 16:42 |
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zigo | tsufiev: LoL! :) | 16:51 |
zigo | tsufiev: Though your English is very good. | 16:51 |
tsufiev | zigo, thanks, just training :) | 16:51 |
openstackgerrit | Wang Bo proposed openstack/horizon: Add policy checks in images panels https://review.openstack.org/261967 | 16:52 |
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zigo | tsufiev: I asked to have some Russian lessons, but it got rejected by management who's only allowing English courses. | 16:54 |
zigo | tsufiev: I'll push for it again. | 16:54 |
zigo | :) | 16:54 |
tsufiev | zigo, good luck ). It would be easier to get Russian lessons, if you were relocated to Moscow | 16:55 |
tsufiev | or Saratov :) | 16:55 |
zigo | tsufiev: NO WAY ! | 16:56 |
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zigo | tsufiev: Come here, in Grenoble, and you'll understand that nobody living here wants to move somewhere else. | 16:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Borland proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: Extensible/generic details modals https://review.openstack.org/296616 | 17:05 |
robcresswell | Potentially naive question: why do NPM/ PyPI even *allow* removal of packages? Seems like it causes such a headache. | 17:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: [WIP] start playing with middleware https://review.openstack.org/273085 | 17:10 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Do not cache templates in DEBUG mode https://review.openstack.org/281976 | 17:10 |
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robcresswell | TravT, matt-borland: I've changed the "ng-subteam" bug tag to just "angularjs". Subteam sounds oddly exclusive. | 17:48 |
TravT | robcresswell makes sense to me | 17:48 |
matt-borland | that's true, sounds good :) | 17:48 |
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robcresswell | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.importance%3Alist=UNDECIDED&orderby=-id | 17:57 |
robcresswell | A mere 398 left. | 17:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Borland proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: Use registry instead of service https://review.openstack.org/296648 | 18:05 |
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robcresswell | david-lyle: Are accepting bug fixes for python Swift? Wondering whether to remove old bug reports for it. | 18:06 |
robcresswell | My thought would be to get rid entirely and stop accepting patches for it, its a waste of review time. | 18:07 |
robcresswell | Since it'll be removed in Newton, right. | 18:07 |
david-lyle | robcresswell: newton or ocata | 18:08 |
david-lyle | standard deprecation is 2 release cycles | 18:08 |
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david-lyle | I'd be ok, marking won't fix, or seeing if the bug is applicable to the new panel | 18:09 |
david-lyle | I'd leave a note on the bug why we're marking it won't fix | 18:09 |
robcresswell | yep | 18:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Cindy Lu proposed openstack/horizon: cleanup for ng create volume workflow https://review.openstack.org/296011 | 18:18 |
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eandersson | Is the removal of a confirmation window when deleting instances intended in RC1? | 18:29 |
david-lyle | eandersson: that would not be intentional | 18:29 |
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eandersson | odd now it did show a confirmation window | 18:32 |
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lapalm | robcresswell: Do you have a min for a quick question? | 18:37 |
robcresswell | lapalm: Sure | 18:38 |
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lapalm | robcresswell: Looking at patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270461/ | 18:39 |
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lapalm | regarding Your last comment | 18:39 |
matt-borland | clu_, I think that the table directive patch looks good except for that one oversight | 18:39 |
robcresswell | Yep | 18:39 |
lapalm | Do you know off the top of your head if that is possible? | 18:39 |
lapalm | To change the redirect url based on where the user currently is at? (what page) | 18:40 |
lapalm | Ive been searching, not entirely sure where to hook in... | 18:40 |
robcresswell | One moment | 18:41 |
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lapalm | yea np | 18:42 |
clu_ | matt-borland: thanks a bunch, will look at! | 18:43 |
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robcresswell | lapalm: You should be able to do something like this: https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/dashboards/project/instances/tables.py#L454 | 18:46 |
lapalm | robcresswell: Yes I was looking at that exact spot pretty much, but thought that that was just for the initial URL to the view/form itself | 18:47 |
lapalm | Maybe I was wrong? | 18:47 |
robcresswell | lapalm: No its passing in a URL to redirect to after I believe. | 18:49 |
lapalm | i see that now... | 18:49 |
lapalm | that might be what I want | 18:49 |
robcresswell | But yeah, needs some handling around that. Otherwise the patch doesnt really speed anything up. Its a good patch though, apart from that. | 18:49 |
lapalm | yea understandable | 18:50 |
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robcresswell | lapalm: Thanks for chasing that up anyway; let me know if I can help further. | 18:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Ankur proposed openstack/horizon: Add Network IP Availability Extension https://review.openstack.org/283171 | 19:24 |
openstackgerrit | Ankur proposed openstack/horizon: Add Network IP Availability Extension https://review.openstack.org/283171 | 19:36 |
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TravT | did horizon irc meeting times change? | 20:02 |
robcresswell | They changed back | 20:03 |
robcresswell | We flipped it at the midcycle | 20:03 |
david-lyle | "we" | 20:03 |
robcresswell | Some idiot added the wrong time on the cancelled meeting | 20:03 |
robcresswell | hehehe | 20:03 |
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TravT | apparently i wasn't conscious for that portion of the discussion | 20:03 |
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david-lyle | no it was a mistake | 20:04 |
david-lyle | we're correcting this week to resync with the ical times | 20:04 |
robcresswell | Basically I screwed up, but now we're back in line with the calendar at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Horizon_Team_Meeting | 20:04 |
robcresswell | I only realised when looking into the Drivers meeting, unfortunately | 20:05 |
robcresswell | but we'd been out of sync for the past 4/5 meetings I believe. | 20:06 |
david-lyle | I know realize why people were confused for a few weeks there | 20:06 |
tyr | sooo...what time UTC is the meeting again? | 20:06 |
TravT | ok, so utc time is correct to be right now | 20:07 |
matt-borland_ | meeting time! | 20:07 |
matt-borland_ | ? | 20:07 |
TravT | but apparently we are on the wrong week interval | 20:07 |
david-lyle | yes 1200 UTC today, 2000 UTC next week | 20:07 |
robcresswell | it was 1200UTC this week | 20:07 |
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robcresswell | If you add the calendar entries from http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Horizon_Team_Meeting then you'll be fine. | 20:07 |
ducttape_ | can we all agree to blame both david-lyle and robcresswell ? | 20:07 |
robcresswell | Which its interesting to note that nobody does add :p | 20:08 |
TravT | ducttape_: i like that idea | 20:08 |
robcresswell | Nah it was my fault, not davids | 20:08 |
TravT | i have a calendar entry | 20:08 |
TravT | but it was for today | 20:08 |
TravT | well, i'm on a real roll today | 20:08 |
ducttape_ | mine today | 20:08 |
ducttape_ | too | 20:08 |
robcresswell | Right, but if we were using the infra .ics ones its today at 1200 UTC | 20:08 |
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robcresswell | Drivers will be back next week too, as per the email :) | 20:09 |
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david-lyle | are people wanting to meet? | 20:10 |
robcresswell | We can hold the drivers meeting now if people have things to discuss. The rooms ours. | 20:10 |
TravT | i mainly just want to get this whole schedule figured out. | 20:10 |
david-lyle | I hosted my last meeting this AM, but robcresswell would be happy to host | 20:10 |
david-lyle | :D | 20:11 |
TravT | will the drivers and regular meeting alternate rooms each week like they were? | 20:11 |
robcresswell | Yes | 20:11 |
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TravT | but horizon regular meeting is every other week? | 20:11 |
robcresswell | Horizon regular is also every week | 20:11 |
robcresswell | it was today at 1200 UTC | 20:11 |
robcresswell | starting next week we'll have drivers and regular. | 20:12 |
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robcresswell | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/calendars/horizon-drivers-meeting.ics and http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/calendars/horizon-team-meeting.ics | 20:12 |
robcresswell | download those and add them, and you're all sorted :) | 20:13 |
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TravT | okay, we're all good except that calendar invite says we should be in a meeting right now. | 20:14 |
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TravT | i demand to be in a meeting! | 20:15 |
robcresswell | haha | 20:15 |
robcresswell | Drivers hasnt been run the past few weeks due to RC | 20:15 |
robcresswell | I sent out an email about it earlier. Rather than demanding everyones presence on the same day, I thought I'd do it from next week. | 20:15 |
robcresswell | Clearly I was wrong :p | 20:15 |
david-lyle | TravT: I can contact you manager | 20:16 |
ducttape_ | TravT - so you are saying you don't have enough meetings in your job. call me skeptical | 20:16 |
david-lyle | urge more meetings :P | 20:16 |
TravT | david-lyle i successfully missed my meeting with my manager already earlier today | 20:16 |
robcresswell | hahaha | 20:16 |
david-lyle | that is success | 20:16 |
TravT | yeah, i don't think she agrees with my definition of success, though | 20:17 |
ducttape_ | less is more, more or less | 20:17 |
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david-lyle | well, it's subjective | 20:17 |
TravT | but from my perspective, i've been very successful on that front this year | 20:17 |
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robcresswell | I'd use hash success, but that would get published in the openstack digest about you missing your meeting. | 20:17 |
ducttape_ | use sucksess ? | 20:18 |
ducttape_ | ;) | 20:18 |
TravT | yeah, i seem to have this problem where I am busy working and manage a lot of opportunities to be i meetings instead. | 20:19 |
TravT | i also can't type | 20:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Borland proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: Django-routed panels https://review.openstack.org/296804 | 21:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Cindy Lu proposed openstack/horizon: minor ng launch instance cleanup - remove unused css styles https://review.openstack.org/296814 | 21:55 |
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dani_castellanos | don't know where could the failure be in this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295964/ | 22:19 |
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dani_castellanos | recheck? | 22:19 |
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robcresswell | dani_castellanos: Yeah, recheck. Looks like NPM fell over. | 22:43 |
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r1chardj0n3s | lol we should mirror that thing ;-) | 22:47 |
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