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| openstackgerrit | XiaojueGuan proposed openstack/glance master: Change the outdated links to the latest links in README https://review.openstack.org/555197 | 08:41 |
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| evrardjp | hey, just out of curiosity, are the glance tempest plugins still in tempest? Is there someone working on the migration of them to a separate repo? | 12:19 |
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| rosmaita | evrardjp: glance never had tempest plugins | 12:20 |
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| evrardjp | oh that's why :p | 12:20 |
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| evrardjp | rosmaita: thanks! | 12:21 |
| rosmaita | evrardjp: i think what happened was that the qa team wrote the basic tempest stuff for all the core projects, so we are just "part of" tempest | 12:21 |
| evrardjp | I guess it's the morning. | 12:21 |
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| evrardjp | yes indeed that's what I kinda meant | 12:21 |
| evrardjp | but I understand. Thanks for the clarification anyway! | 12:21 |
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| rosmaita | evrardjp are you interested in enhancing tempest tests for glance? | 12:21 |
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| evrardjp | I see what you did there :) | 12:22 |
| rosmaita | we could use more coverage | 12:22 |
| rosmaita | (just want to send some work your way!) | 12:22 |
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| evrardjp | rosmaita: I saw that, and I think it's fair, with so many ppl using glance :) | 12:22 |
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| evrardjp | I was just tracking what we do in tempest, now that more projects are using plugins, and there was a community goal for it | 12:23 |
| evrardjp | I don't have enough cycles to drive this big change | 12:23 |
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| rosmaita | right | 12:23 |
| rosmaita | ok | 12:23 |
| evrardjp | but I will report it to ppl in the org and in openstack-ansible, to show we need ppl. | 12:24 |
| evrardjp | that's the best I can promise you | 12:24 |
| rosmaita | evrardjp: i will be adding the tempest tests for interoperable image import as soon as i figure out how to do it, can i consult you if i run into problems? how tempest-savvy are you? | 12:24 |
| evrardjp | (i feel sad about that at the same time) | 12:24 |
| rosmaita | :) | 12:24 |
| evrardjp | rosmaita: not much, that's why I think I don't have enough cycles. But we are deploying it so we can be your labrats for fast iteration | 12:24 |
| evrardjp | so yes, I am willing to help on that | 12:25 |
| rosmaita | ok, cool, may look for you in a few days | 12:25 |
| evrardjp | sure, don't hesitate | 12:26 |
| evrardjp | do you want to do it the new way? | 12:27 |
| evrardjp | with separate repos and all that jazz? | 12:27 |
| evrardjp | sounds legit to do both at the same time, when the framework is in place, to migrate the existing tests there. | 12:27 |
| evrardjp | oh god what did I step into! | 12:27 |
| evrardjp | :p | 12:27 |
| rosmaita | evrardjp no, i really don't want to do all the separate repo stuff if i don;'t have to | 12:28 |
| evrardjp | haha fair point :) | 12:28 |
| evrardjp | let's see how it will go with tempest :) | 12:28 |
| rosmaita | my plan is to add the stuff to tempest, and then someone else can split it all out later if the tempest team wants to | 12:28 |
| rosmaita | yep | 12:28 |
| evrardjp | if that needs to happen, that's where I'd more helpful I guess, but feel free to ping me anytime. | 12:29 |
| rosmaita | ok, cool | 12:29 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: evrardjp: morn \o | 12:39 |
| rosmaita | howdy | 12:39 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555277/ I figured as I'm so against these, I better to do it myself | 12:40 |
| rosmaita | ok | 12:40 |
| rosmaita | have 2 more for you once they get approved in master | 12:41 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/555113 | 12:41 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/555148 | 12:41 |
| rosmaita | this is off topic, but see what you think of this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554638/ | 12:42 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: that does clean the landing page a lot | 12:53 |
| jokke_ | makes it way less intimidating | 12:53 |
| rosmaita | yes, and gets the contributor docs listed first! | 12:53 |
| evrardjp | woot | 12:53 |
| evrardjp | it's a nice landing page tbh | 12:53 |
| evrardjp | I'm willing to steal from your ideas. | 12:54 |
| evrardjp | :D | 12:54 |
| rosmaita | evrardjp: go for it! | 12:54 |
| rosmaita | "glance makes, and the world takes" | 12:54 |
| rosmaita | that's actually the motto of Trenton, NJ | 12:55 |
| rosmaita | well, if you s/glance/Trenton/ | 12:55 |
| rosmaita | both versions are probably equally true | 12:55 |
| jokke_ | lets merge that :P | 12:55 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: do you have the url for the ptg etherpad where you sketched out the rocky schedule? i can't find it | 12:56 |
| jokke_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-rocky-priorities | 12:57 |
| rosmaita | ty | 12:58 |
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| evrardjp | rosmaita: haha | 13:02 |
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| jokke_ | need, more, coffee ... this time not just when the weekly starts :P | 13:06 |
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| evrardjp | maybe worth editing https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/tox.ini#L106 to the new build system | 13:26 |
| evrardjp | (using sphinx-build directly) | 13:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Nguyen Hai proposed openstack/glance master: Follow the new PTI for document build https://review.openstack.org/555189 | 13:30 |
| rosmaita | evrardjp not sure we can do that, can't do it for glanceclient because we use pbr autoindex feature | 13:31 |
| rosmaita | ok, just read stephenfin | 13:33 |
| rosmaita | s email about this | 13:33 |
| rosmaita | not sure i like these "you should make this breaking change for which there is a workaround that we will tell you about later" | 13:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-glanceclient master: Check for container,disk_format on web-download https://review.openstack.org/555148 | 13:57 |
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| jokke_ | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: flwang1, jokke_, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, rosmaita,GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, alex_bash, smcginnis, arcolife,Brin,Roamer` | 13:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/glance master: Follow the new PTI for document build https://review.openstack.org/555322 | 14:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/glance master: Follow the new PTI for document build https://review.openstack.org/555322 | 14:51 |
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| smcginnis | rosmaita: For your last item, I have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555322/ up that should fix the docs build. | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: ping | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | I hadn't realized we still had the outdated job definition there. | 15:01 |
| imacdonn | jokke_: hi | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | I see the python-glanceclient patch with issues. I'll take a look and see if I can give them some pointers. | 15:01 |
| jokke_ | so if I understood correctly you have admins/dedicated users doing that, right? | 15:01 |
| imacdonn | jokke_: yes | 15:01 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: you can enable multiple image locations, restrict the location calls to those users in policy and I think you should be fine doing it over v2 | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis i thought monty's email said that if you use u-c, you also need to -r requirements.txt plus the new -r doc/requirements.txt | 15:02 |
| imacdonn | jokke_: you mean something like what didn't work due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1750892 ? | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1750892 in Glance "Image remains in queued status after location set via PATCH" [Undecided,New] | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: If you need to, but you can do just doc/requirements.txt as long as that has everything you need. | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | There was just one extra "non-doc" package to add there, so I went that route to keep the footprint smaller. | 15:03 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis i'm not sure under what circumstances you'd need to, actually | 15:03 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: likely yes ... I have feeling that the patch call might not trigger the activation, location add call should | 15:03 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: something we can definitely look into if it doesn't work for you | 15:04 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: I'm really really reluctant to take the rage of the interoperability folks by introducing admin only method ;) | 15:04 |
| imacdonn | jokke_: so a couple of issues with this ... 1) it requires exposing the direct URLs (probably OK in my case, but in general??) ... 2) It's a bit cumbersome.. to have to create the image first, then modify it with PATCH | 15:04 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis so i guess the xattr will be in both doc/req.txt and req.txt ? | 15:04 |
| rosmaita | imacdonn, jokke_ : i wonder whether we coudl do this as an action, like deactivate | 15:05 |
| imacdonn | jokke_: it doesn't have to be admin-only ... I was just trying to avoid the security issues | 15:05 |
| rosmaita | something like POST v2/images/{id}/action/add_location | 15:05 |
| rosmaita | with location in the payload, something like that | 15:06 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: if you look how the 'web-download' was implement, it's fairly trivial to create new method ... agreeing to do so, might not be as trivial :P | 15:06 |
| imacdonn | jokke_: Yeah. My issue is that there's a claim of feature parity that's allowing the removal of the v1 API ... but there clearly (to me?) is not feature parity :/ | 15:07 |
| jokke_ | but making it admin/specific users only at least with our current policy model will be pain | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: Yep, just the one. And if the gate installs packages from both ./requirements and doc/requirements it's OK. It's cumulative, so it's not like it will cause conflicts. | 15:08 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis that seems ok to me | 15:08 |
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| smcginnis | rosmaita: And requirements update proposals are smart enough to be able to handle both files. | 15:08 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: we never claimed feature parity, we acknowledged that certain features were mising that had very heavy requests in our ops surveys | 15:09 |
| imacdonn | jokke_: https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/glance/queens.html | 15:09 |
| imacdonn | jokke_: "With the introduction of the web-download import method, we consider the Image Service v2 API to have reached feature parity with the DEPRECATED v1 API in all important respects." | 15:09 |
| imacdonn | I guess I'm not an "important respect" :) | 15:10 |
| rosmaita | note the "in all important respects" | 15:10 |
| rosmaita | nothing personal! | 15:10 |
| imacdonn | :P | 15:10 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: to solve those has been ongoing effort for good couple of years collecting the feedback what are the "all important respects" referred on that release note | 15:10 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: tbh, if we would not use the http driver from glance store for 'web-download' I would have proposed deprecation of that driver when the v1 removal happens :P | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: Shoot, I just realized someone had just beat me to that patch and had taken it a step further. | 15:12 |
| imacdonn | jokke_: I guess I can sortof understand that position ... but for my use-case, it doesn't make sense to make copies of large images that are already sitting there on an HTTP server | 15:13 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: that's totally valid use case ... thus we're trying to figure out how you could continue doing that | 15:13 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: I'm actually happy to hear that someone has reasonable use case for that http driver | 15:14 |
| imacdonn | jokke_: OK, cool... just want to make sure it's not some back-door hack with a short lifetime | 15:14 |
| rosmaita | how bad is the idea of a call to directly set location? | 15:14 |
| rosmaita | we already have the precedent of 2 ways to set tags | 15:14 |
| rosmaita | it is probably a stupid idea | 15:15 |
| rosmaita | maybe once the policies are refactored, this will be easier to do | 15:15 |
| imacdonn | seems OK to me ... but there should be a way to restrict who can do it ... ? | 15:15 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: IIRC that was thrown around few times when we tried to kill the multiple locations config option and it got somehow entagled with our policies again | 15:15 |
| rosmaita | imacdonn it would be easy to restrict, like activate and deactivate curently are | 15:16 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: one option is to have really lightweight glance node exposed only to the admins for those image creations | 15:16 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: you don't have to have the locations exposed on all of your glance nodes | 15:17 |
| jokke_ | specially not on the user facing ones | 15:17 |
| imacdonn | sharing the same database, you mean ? | 15:18 |
| jokke_ | imacdonn: yes | 15:18 |
| imacdonn | not really necessary in my case ... I was thinking more about the feature not being available to any and all users "out of the box" | 15:18 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: imacdonn: I think we can discuss the add-location call at the point when our policies are reflecting our API not our database calls | 15:19 |
| jokke_ | 'cause that is currently the problem we would be facing there and IIRC was the problem we tried to do it last time | 15:20 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_ makes sense to me | 15:21 |
| imacdonn | jokke_ rosmaita I'm guessing that will be post-Rocky ? | 15:26 |
| imacdonn | although I see it in the priorities list ... right at the end (?) | 15:28 |
| imacdonn | not sure if that covers it | 15:28 |
| rosmaita | well, our plan is to at least get the locations policies sorted out | 15:28 |
| rosmaita | precisely because of this kind of situation | 15:28 |
| imacdonn | seems like there probably wouldn't be time to get the new feature added between that and the release, though | 15:30 |
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| jokke_ | depends how much we get hands on deck to do the work | 15:43 |
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| imacdonn | jokke_: yeah. I'm just worried that I won't be able to upgrade to Rocky, and then get in a situation where I can't upgrade beyond Rocky because I can't skip releases, or something | 15:46 |
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| rosmaita | smcginnis: when you have a minute, quick review for you: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555113/ ... also need your opinion on including it in the glanceclient backport to stable/queens | 17:54 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: Not something I would normally flag for backport, but it's trivial enough and very low risk of any kind of bad side effects, so we probably could. | 17:55 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks | 17:56 |
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