| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/397905 | 00:06 |
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| mfedosin | rosmaita: flwang hello folks! I finished all the works with employment (now I work in samsung btw), so I'll give my comments on the bug in an hour | 12:47 |
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| rosmaita | mfedosin: ty! | 13:32 |
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| rosmaita | mfedosin: congrats on your new position! | 13:39 |
| rosmaita | (just reread your message) | 13:39 |
| kairat | mfedosin, make samsung great again! | 13:39 |
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| mfedosin | No phones will explode during my watch :) | 13:43 |
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| kairat | heh | 13:43 |
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| vincenta | hi all ! Sorry to bother you, but I can't find an answer in documentation... | 15:30 |
| tsymanczyk | good morning glance. how do we make this happen? what can i do today? | 15:30 |
| vincenta | It seems that usage of os_distro metadata in glance is "obsolete"... https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Obsolete:Glance-common-image-properties-os_distro | 15:30 |
| vincenta | Is there any alternative ? | 15:30 |
| tsymanczyk | jokke_ have you heard about the proposed solution we were bouncing around yesterday? | 15:30 |
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| alex_bash | vincenta: you can still use os_distro | 15:34 |
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| alex_bash | vincenta: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/common-image-properties.html#os-distro | 15:35 |
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| vincenta | alex_bash: great ! this is exactly what I was looking for ! thx so much | 15:36 |
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| tsymanczyk | i currently have most of a patch implemented that swaps the 'shared' value for 'shareable' - so if that turns out to be the way we want to go i can make that happen very quickly. i just need to know what the plan is. | 15:41 |
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| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: ok, thanks | 16:06 |
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| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: just sent a question to the translators about whether there's enough of a distinction between 'shared' and 'shareable' to make this worth worrying about | 16:07 |
| tsymanczyk | just saw it. perfect. | 16:08 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: my feeling is we keep 'shared' for O-1 and add 'had_members' for O-2 | 16:10 |
| rosmaita | thanks for following this closely | 16:10 |
| rosmaita | i mean 'has_members'!!! don't want to start a new controversy! | 16:11 |
| tsymanczyk | works for me. i'll be paying as close attention as possible today - would love to get this settled in time. | 16:17 |
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| sigmavirus | it would be nice to do that | 16:34 |
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| tsymanczyk | sigmavirus: what time tomorrow are you planning on flipping the switch? | 16:46 |
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| ckonstanski | stevelle: would like to call your attention to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396816/ | 16:58 |
| stevelle | ckonstanski: understood. we're reaching a deadline this week with some priority items still open so it needs to wait a little longer | 16:59 |
| ckonstanski | ok | 16:59 |
| alex_bash | ckonstanski: in the meantime, just posted a comment to your review | 17:00 |
| alex_bash | gives you time to address that :) | 17:00 |
| ckonstanski | ok | 17:00 |
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| ckonstanski | A unit test sould test both python2 and python3 I imagine. Does it also need to test v1, v2 and v3? | 17:01 |
| stevelle | same test should pass both yes. should work against glance v1 and v2 (v1,v2, and v3 makes me think you're mixing with keystone versions) | 17:03 |
| alex_bash | v3: glare? | 17:03 |
| alex_bash | I think what you're talking about is a functional test, which might or might not be useful | 17:03 |
| alex_bash | a unit test could be agnostic of the api | 17:03 |
| ckonstanski | Possibly. Assumed there was a v3. If there isn't, then great! | 17:04 |
| stevelle | ckonstanski: are you running on Mitaka yet? | 17:04 |
| stevelle | cant recall | 17:04 |
| sigmavirus | tsymanczyk: towards the end of my day | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus | something like 2000 UTC | 17:05 |
| ckonstanski | No, but will be very soon. The work I'm doing right now is to write a sanity check script so that I will know that glance works the same before and after the upgrade. Then I will turn right around and upgrade to newton. | 17:06 |
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| jokke_ | I'll dig in in a moment | 17:17 |
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| ckonstanski | Should unit tests be part of the same review as the bug fix or in a separate review? | 17:47 |
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| stevelle | same | 17:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance-specs: Return 409 if removing/replacing image locations. https://review.openstack.org/368192 | 17:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Dharini Chandrasekar proposed openstack/glance-specs: Return 409 if removing/replacing image locations. https://review.openstack.org/368192 | 17:56 |
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| sigmavirus | rosmaita: fwiw, https://review.openstack.org/398447 | 19:57 |
| sigmavirus | we've met our community goals for the cycle, so I thought I'd note that | 19:57 |
| rosmaita | i already put up a patch for that, i thought | 19:58 |
| rosmaita | i'll abandon mine, yours has some +1 rollcall votes | 19:59 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397967/ | 19:59 |
| rosmaita | you might want to add https://review.openstack.org/#/c/380452/ as an artifact, too, though | 20:01 |
| tsymanczyk | just saw erno's comment - it's great that progress is happening. is there anything that i could be doing to help progress things? | 20:01 |
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| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: unfortunately, no ... the problem is that we haven't agreed yet on the correct migration strategy | 20:01 |
| rosmaita | i'm going to send something out to the operators' list to get some data | 20:02 |
| rosmaita | but we can't merge a migration into O-1 that might change | 20:02 |
| rosmaita | so we're kind of stuck ATM | 20:02 |
| tsymanczyk | what is the open question? | 20:02 |
| rosmaita | whether to migrate all is_public=0 to 'shared', or only those with members to 'shared' and the remainder to 'private' | 20:03 |
| rosmaita | would sort of break v1, though, so i don't like it | 20:03 |
| tsymanczyk | separating them would alter their behaviour going forward. | 20:04 |
| rosmaita | but, the worry is that people will call support when they do an image-list and see that all their images suddenly have visibility == shared | 20:04 |
| tsymanczyk | keeping all of them shared keeps all behaviour exactly as it was | 20:04 |
| rosmaita | agreed | 20:04 |
| tsymanczyk | also agreed | 20:04 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus: just realized i didn't name you, look ^^ around 19:58:34 UTC | 20:06 |
| tsymanczyk | any idea when a decision might come down? would it be useful for me to tee up (but not commit) a patch that does it "the other" way? beyond today i don't know when i'll find time for this again. | 20:06 |
| tsymanczyk | is there any chance we're going to choose secret-option-3? | 20:07 |
| rosmaita | don't know (and not sure what that option is!) | 20:09 |
| rosmaita | we are going to keep the has_members discussion entirely separate, though | 20:09 |
| tsymanczyk | nobody does /tinfoil | 20:09 |
| rosmaita | :) | 20:09 |
| tsymanczyk | okay i'm going to tee up the patch. if nothing else i don't want to regret being the one to hold this up. if it doesn't get pushed fantastic i don't care. | 20:10 |
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| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: i dont' know what to tell you, i don't want you to waste your time ... i am hoping it wont' be necessary | 20:13 |
| tsymanczyk | this is my choice / and i don't consider it wasting my time. for the record though - this is not the way to go. we shouldn't be making things less technically correct to save the headache of users who don't read the docs. | 20:15 |
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| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: your concern is noted! | 20:19 |
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| flwang | mfedosin__: cool, glad to know you got a new job | 20:26 |
| stevelle | I'll note that we can raise the idea for operators who may want to migrate that way, even if it isn't what we choose. | 20:26 |
| flwang | mfedosin__: btw, I didn't see your new comments ;) | 20:27 |
| stevelle | If they upgrade with API downtime at least, it should be fairly simply to manually apply | 20:28 |
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| tsymanczyk | additionally - isn't that just shifting the problem? the same people who would've called support because "all their images are shared now" - those same people are going to call support when they try to add a member to their private image and it doesn't work the way they expect it to. | 20:33 |
| stevelle | Not necessarily the same magnitude of issue. I would guess a minority of users (or teams of users) use image sharing. | 20:34 |
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| tsymanczyk | certainly true. | 20:35 |
| stevelle | in principle at least you're right, it's trading one issue for another. | 20:35 |
| stevelle | FWIW - I don't see a scenario where community images just doesn't merge in Ocata. And it's going to have you recorded as author, even if someone else needs to act as a custodian for the last 2 meters. | 20:37 |
| tsymanczyk | :) personal thing i guess. i'd like it a little more if i could be the one to spike the ball. | 20:39 |
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| tsymanczyk | this has been a long road | 20:40 |
| stevelle | I get that. | 20:41 |
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