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| rosmaita | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, abashmak | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | nikhil: when i said "reaction", i meant "determine whether anyone is using this feature" | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | guess i could have phrased it better | 15:00 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: cool, a quick survey on on the adoption sounds like a good idea | 15:01 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: what's the best way to do that? | 15:01 |
| nikhil | prolly add it as a sub point of disussion during glance_store session at the summit? | 15:01 |
| rosmaita | ML to the operator's list? | 15:02 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: I will say hard luck getting a resp from ops ml | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: i don't know if we're going to get many people at the session | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | i know! | 15:02 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: they are not regular on reading it | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | it's crazy! there shoudl be a good way to get this kind of info | 15:02 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: someone like flwang attending the ops session at the summit maybe? | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | maybe i need to post to the ML asking how to post to the ML! | 15:03 |
| Jokke_ | are they I'll be looking through the ops sessions as well during the summit | 15:03 |
| Jokke_ | if I find right place I bring it up | 15:03 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: cool | 15:03 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: I have mentioned this to doug and tierry about communication gap in our ecosystem | 15:03 |
| rosmaita | there are several features we support that it would be good to know whether they get any use | 15:03 |
| rosmaita | or whether we have other ways to satisfy the use cases | 15:03 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: I was going to suggest a ops-glance cross midcycle sync like we did in newton | 15:04 |
| * rosmaita is thinking of multiple image locations, of course | 15:04 | |
| nikhil | cool | 15:04 |
| Jokke_ | but yeah, I'd say lets post it to the dev&ops mailing lists, query the OS usage survey (if it happens to have that level of details) and disucss it in the Summit ... if none of that brings opposition we deprecate it and see what the deprecation message raises | 15:04 |
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| nikhil | it's a hard problem, indeed | 15:05 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will action myself to get this going | 15:05 |
| nikhil | with more and more ops staying 2-3 releases behind master, deprecation also won't give you majority numbers | 15:05 |
| rosmaita | that's a good point | 15:05 |
| nikhil | thanks guys, I gtg. dinner time. | 15:07 |
| hemanth | unrelated maybe but do we recommended anything at all about switching between multi-tenant and single-tenant stores? | 15:07 |
| Jokke_ | hemanth: what do you mean by switching between them? | 15:08 |
| hemanth | say I'm using single-tenant store currently and then decide to switch to multi-tenant store | 15:09 |
| stevelle | or back | 15:09 |
| hemanth | yeah | 15:09 |
| hemanth | it is certainly possible for an operator to do that | 15:09 |
| stevelle | if we deprecate we would need to provide a migration path | 15:09 |
| hemanth | +1 | 15:09 |
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| Jokke_ | stevelle: we didn't for s3 that just got removed | 15:10 |
| hemanth | also, currently I don't think we support that very well | 15:10 |
| hemanth | the switch I mean | 15:10 |
| stevelle | Jokke_: probably a mistake | 15:10 |
| Jokke_ | so switching the default store and leaving the old store to slowly deplete itself is pretty trivial | 15:10 |
| Jokke_ | we do not do any image store migrations in glance and we should not do them in glance | 15:11 |
| stevelle | providing a migration path may mean documenting the process to allow an old store to deplete itself | 15:11 |
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| stevelle | though for snapshots and the like that doesn't really work | 15:11 |
| stevelle | users never clean up after themselves | 15:12 |
| stevelle | but if we document query tools that help ops see what is left behind they can | 15:12 |
| hemanth | stevelle: +1 but that is assuming we can still access images from the old store | 15:12 |
| stevelle | an operator can, and iirc the bug in multi-account doesn't inhibit unshared private image use | 15:13 |
| Jokke_ | hemanth: as long as the old store is configured glance will happily access it | 15:13 |
| hemanth | let's say someone is using single-tenant store with swift+config, then moves to multi-tenant store | 15:13 |
| Jokke_ | hemanth: so gets and deletes will work | 15:13 |
| rosmaita | also, we still don't have a migration path from swift+https to swift+config | 15:14 |
| hemanth | at this point, swift+config should still be configured so that images from single-tenant store can be accessed | 15:14 |
| hemanth | but currently multi-tenant doesn't work well if swift+config is set | 15:14 |
| hemanth | so you are basically stuck | 15:15 |
| stevelle | for swift multi-account to swift+config there is not need to deplete anything, the same external store is used, it's just a matter of explaining it | 15:15 |
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| Jokke_ | This is actually something we likely should look from Manila & Cinder and consider into Pike. But currently we can reliably only indroduce new stores that uses different store driver than the previous one to keep them working together | 15:17 |
| Jokke_ | we do not support multiple stores of same driver | 15:17 |
| Jokke_ | So what Manila and Cinder actually do is they alias the store configurations to allow multiple backends | 15:18 |
| stevelle | mind blown | 15:19 |
| stevelle | that would be a pretty valuable change | 15:19 |
| Jokke_ | so we could do configs default_store="swift-multitenant" enabled_stores=["swift_config", "swift_multitenant", "rbd"] | 15:19 |
| stevelle | import and upgrades first though | 15:20 |
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| Jokke_ | and the glance_store refactoring, but this is something we likely want to keep in mind for the refactoring work | 15:20 |
| Jokke_ | so we don't make it impossible when we refactor the store-api | 15:20 |
| stevelle | I dunno what is happening with the refactor yet this cycle if anything | 15:21 |
| stevelle | but fair pt | 15:21 |
| Jokke_ | we will discuss that in the Summit | 15:21 |
| stevelle | take notes for me :P | 15:21 |
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| Jokke_ | We need to start doing that refactoring so that Glare folks don't need to fork it as it really doesn't work for them as it is | 15:22 |
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| rosmaita | i'll contact mike and kairat right away and make sure they don't ahve a conflict with the proposed time for that session | 15:23 |
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| sigmavirus | Jokke_: the refactoring we've been talking about since 2 years ago when I started around here? | 15:29 |
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| rosmaita | sigmavirus: the same | 15:30 |
| stevelle | also, unicorns | 15:35 |
| Jokke_ | sigmavirus: that | 15:37 |
| sigmavirus | stevelle: "Unicorn Hooves" should be the code name for the refactor work | 15:37 |
| Jokke_ | rosmaita: cool ... mike promised to be involved so yes, please check that there is no scheduling conflicts there | 15:38 |
| rosmaita | Jokke_: just sent off an email, hopefully he'll get it before end of day in russia | 15:38 |
| rosmaita | or is he in ukraine? | 15:39 |
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| rosmaita | well, either way, it's getting late out there | 15:39 |
| Jokke_ | Russia | 15:39 |
| Jokke_ | IIRC he is just out from Moscow | 15:39 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's what i thought | 15:41 |
| Jokke_ | so it's closing 7PM for Mike ... I hope he is not working anymore ;) | 15:42 |
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| hemanth | rosmaita: commented on https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1625075 | 16:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1625075 in Glance "Shared & public images no working with multi-tenant swift backend" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Dharini Chandrasekar (dharini-chandrasekar) | 16:52 |
| hemanth | dharinic ^ | 16:52 |
| dharinic | hemanth: ack. | 16:52 |
| dharinic | Looking | 16:52 |
| rosmaita | hemanth: ty | 16:52 |
| hemanth | feel free to add more detail. I tried my best to explain what's happening | 16:53 |
| dharinic | I am very bad at describing things (you would have known by now) | 16:54 |
| dharinic | 15 patches for help text | 16:54 |
| dharinic | :D | 16:54 |
| dharinic | 15 patch sets* | 16:55 |
| hemanth | :) | 16:56 |
| dharinic | sorry, wrong channel. | 16:56 |
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| rosmaita | dharinic: i bet you are better at describing things now than you used to be, though! | 17:08 |
| dharinic | rosmaita: I guess so. | 17:09 |
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| mriedem | does a metadef enum value of 'None' result in literally image_meta.properties.hw_foo == None, or is it stored as the actual 'None' string? | 17:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/glance: Add libvirt image metadef for hw_pointer_model https://review.openstack.org/386137 | 18:37 |
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| Zer0Byte__ | hey | 18:40 |
| Zer0Byte__ | someone can help me in something quick with glance | 18:40 |
| Zer0Byte__ | how i can set the file permission on glance images | 18:40 |
| Zer0Byte__ | after upload | 18:40 |
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| dharinic | Zer0Byte__, if you have already created the image, you can use image-update to change the visibility | 18:44 |
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| Zer0Byte__ | no | 18:45 |
| Zer0Byte__ | the permision | 18:45 |
| Zer0Byte__ | on disk | 18:45 |
| Zer0Byte__ | cinder is failing to take the ownership of the image | 18:45 |
| dharinic | Ahhh. Have you checked all ur conf opts with respect to using cinder as backend? | 18:49 |
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| Zer0Byte__ | yes | 18:53 |
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| dharinic | Can you share the exact error you are getting? | 18:56 |
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| dharinic | Zer0Byte__^ | 19:02 |
| Zer0Byte__ | no error just cinder can peform flexclone because the permssions | 19:03 |
| Zer0Byte__ | brb | 19:03 |
| dharinic | you mean can't? | 19:04 |
| Zer0Byte__ | sorry cant | 19:04 |
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| Zer0Byte__ | but if i set to the image | 19:04 |
| Zer0Byte__ | the permission cinder:glance | 19:04 |
| Zer0Byte__ | works great | 19:04 |
| dharinic | Can you make sure if your "default_store" is set to cinder? | 19:04 |
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| dharinic | and that cinder is registered as a storage backend to use with glance with the 'stores' opt | 19:07 |
| dharinic | If cinder is registered to be used as a store, then there should not be any explicit permission settting requirements | 19:10 |
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| flwang | rosmaita: ping re the summit sessions | 20:55 |
| flwang | I saw the rolling upgrade is voted with highest scores, but why it's not planned, anything i missed? | 20:56 |
| flwang | rosmaita: ah, no worries, i got it | 20:56 |
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