Friday, 2016-07-08

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openstackgerritTimothy Symanczyk proposed openstack/glance: WIP Add explicit 'visibility' column to images  https://review.openstack.org/32612800:19
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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/glance: Use oslo.context features  https://review.openstack.org/31488900:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/glance_store: Remove unused variable in vmware store  https://review.openstack.org/33927704:14
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openstackgerritIlya Menkov proposed openstack/glance: [WIP][Glare] add tests for create and update artifacts  https://review.openstack.org/33886809:11
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openstackgerritKairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: [WIP][Glare] add tests for create and update artifacts  https://review.openstack.org/33886809:28
openstackgerritKairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: [WIP][Glare] add tests for create and update artifacts  https://review.openstack.org/33886809:29
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openstackgerritKairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Glare  https://review.openstack.org/29232709:32
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buntingIs CI broken for us?10:34
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buntinggate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full10:35
kairat__Yep, looks like it is broken10:57
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openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Marker and pagination updates  https://review.openstack.org/33947311:16
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openstackgerritKairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: [WIP][Glare] Add tests for artifact activate-reactivate  https://review.openstack.org/33886811:50
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rosmaitaflwang: any chance you are around?12:49
rosmaita(i should be available for the next 8 hours or so)12:49
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openstackgerritBrian Rosmaita proposed openstack/glance-specs: Database strategy for rolling upgrades  https://review.openstack.org/33174013:48
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rsjethaniHi jokke_14:04
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openstackgerritAkhila Kishore proposed openstack/glance: Nitpick spell change  https://review.openstack.org/33859414:26
openstackgerritKairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Glare  https://review.openstack.org/33886814:28
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openstackgerritKairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Glare  https://review.openstack.org/29232714:34
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tsymanczyknikhil rosmaita : good morning and happy friday! re community images sync. no movement in the past week on the spec, so if anyone has any remaining issues they're playing it close to the chest. the code is progressing much more slowly than i would really like but i have no current blockers. two questions have come up that i'd appreciate your insight on 1) to16:07
tsymanczykwhat extent does "shared" visibility currently exist? brian istr during the v-midcycle you had said something along the lines of "some people believe incorrectly that glance currently has a shared visibility" so i would assume that that doesn't currently exist, but some of the tests i was reading earlier seem to at least try and use a 'shared' status. in my16:07
tsymanczyklocal testing adding members to a private image does not change the visibility away from 'private' for an image show command. anyways the answer seems clear i just wanted to confirm. and 2) i noticed that there's currently a 'visibility' column in the artifacts table which is a varchar(32). that isn't directly relevant to anything we're doing, right? i'm16:07
tsymanczykterribly familiar with ALL of the glance functionality, and wanted to check with you as to whether or not that column should also be switched to an enum somewhere along this journey.16:07
* tsymanczyk drops the mic16:07
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openstackgerritKairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: [WIP!!!] move all artifact attr specific logic to base  https://review.openstack.org/33969516:31
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nikhiltsymanczyk: good morning. Sorry about delay, coming back from another meeting scheduled recently.16:32
tsymanczykno worries. nothing terribly urgent to say.16:33
nikhiltsymanczyk: since we have the is public boolean for visibility, there is no such status . Now the question is the situation when that is revealed in the v2 API. Don't worry about v1 and artifacts.16:34
nikhiltsymanczyk: it's worth checking in the new docs proposed by rosmaita in glance gerrit review.16:35
nikhiltsymanczyk: one thing to notice is that there is shared filter for reducing the image list to only shared images.16:36
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nikhiltsymanczyk: alternative is to look for functional tests in glance repi16:36
nikhilRepo16:36
nikhilHope that helps a bit.16:37
tsymanczykit certainly does, thank you.16:38
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rosmaitatsymanczyk: nikhil: sorry, i got distracted and missed the sync16:47
rosmaitatsymanczyk: as nikhil said, you will see code looking for 'visibility=shared' as a query filter, but it is a signal to use the members list to figure out what images should be included in the response16:48
rosmaitatsymanczyk: one other thing i wanted to mention is that hemanthm and i are working on a spec for how to do rolling upgrades in glance ... we are using your change from is_public to visibility as an example to make sure our approach makes sense16:49
rosmaitaanyway, the point is that (subject to nikhil agreeing) we may propose doing the db changes required for community images in the rolling upgrade manner16:51
tsymanczykrosmaita : sounds good. what can or should i do differently to help? or am i the experiment?16:51
rosmaitatsymanczyk: i'll give you the link, the spec is still in progress, but you can let us know what you think16:51
rosmaitaand yeah, you may be the experiment!16:51
nikhilI think that sounds like a sane plan rosmaita . I had a long discussion with Hemanth on that and it looka like candidate for testing the approach.16:52
rosmaitabut see if you think it would be reasonable to try out as part of your changes16:52
rosmaitanikhil: cool16:52
rosmaitatsymanczyk: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331740/16:52
rosmaitathat's all from me, thanks for the update16:54
tsymanczykrosmaita : thanks for the link. i want to give it proper consideration and thought. will try to get back to you (with at least a 'yeah good with me' or 'that seems terrifying') before end of day.16:55
rosmaitatsymanczyk: thanks ... and early next week is fine16:56
hemanthmrosmaita: thanks for bringing that up.17:03
hemanthmWe should at least consider splitting the migrations into expand/contract17:04
* hemanthm thinks it needs a separate spec possibly17:04
rosmaitahemanthm: possibly (separate spec), but let's work out the issues on the current spec first17:06
hemanthmsure17:06
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openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Fix adding custom locations  https://review.openstack.org/33976718:42
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openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Fix adding custom locations  https://review.openstack.org/33976720:43
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openstackgerritBrian Rosmaita proposed openstack/glance: WADL to RST migration (part 2 - images)  https://review.openstack.org/33295021:07
openstackgerritHemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/glance-specs: Database strategy for rolling upgrades  https://review.openstack.org/33174021:15
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openstackgerritHemanth Makkapati proposed openstack/glance-specs: Database strategy for rolling upgrades  https://review.openstack.org/33174021:16
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rosmaitaflwang1: around?21:27
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flwang1rosmaita: yes21:53
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rosmaitaflwang1: hello ... it's your weekend now, i think ... are you working?21:55
flwang1rosmaita: yep, it's Sat here :)21:55
flwang1but yes, i always work anytime :D21:56
flwang1how can i help?21:56
rosmaitawhen i got in this morning, i saw that you had pinged me last night21:57
flwang1rosmaita: oh, yep21:58
flwang1rosmaita: just wanna discuss the location strategy restrict issue21:58
rosmaitasure21:58
flwang1rosmaita: i'm not really sure what you want to see. just a new bug to track the change?21:59
rosmaitaflwang1: yes ... iiuc, the issue is that the way the config option is currently defined prevents the feature from working properly22:00
flwang1rosmaita: yep, agree22:00
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rosmaitaso, before that dude removes the tests, i'd like him to be able to say something like, "follow up fix to this is bug #1234"22:01
openstackbug 1234 in Launchpad itself "Gina is an unmaintainable mess of command line options, environment variables and shell scripts" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234 - Assigned to Daniel Henrique Debonzi (debonzi)22:01
rosmaitaha!22:01
flwang1haha22:01
rosmaitabut also, from what you say, it looks like the validate code is never called?22:01
flwang1ok, i see. initially, i created bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1598282 to track the change22:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1598282 in Glance "location strategy config shouldn't be ristricted" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Fei Long Wang (flwang)22:02
flwang1but seems changbo guo just grabbed it to track his change22:02
* rosmaita looking22:02
flwang1so, haha22:02
flwang1so how do you think we merge the two patches as one as just use 1598282 to track it?22:03
flwang1s/as/and22:03
rosmaitaok, sorry, was reading22:06
rosmaitaok22:06
rosmaitaso my problem right now is: (1) gbo removed the option validation that oslo_config was doing22:06
rosmaita(2) your patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336761/ removes the validation method and its test cases22:07
rosmaitaso, we now have the situation where an operator can put anything for that config option22:07
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rosmaitathe follow-up bug would be to fix it so that the validation function is called22:07
rosmaitaiirc, what it did was read the option name and check the appropriate directory to see if there was a location strategy with that name22:08
rosmaitaand it raised an exception if there was no such strategy22:08
rosmaitai think we want to preserve that behavior22:08
rosmaitabut, i also wonder if this is a quesiton for nikhil22:09
rosmaitanamely, is the feature supposed to be taht configurable?22:09
rosmaitaby an operator, i mean22:09
* nikhil reads back22:09
flwang1rosmaita: yes, you're right22:09
rosmaitaor did zhi code it like that for future strategies that the *glance* team would add22:09
rosmaita?22:09
flwang1the strategy is loadded by stevedore22:10
flwang1so if there is no valid strategy with the given name22:10
flwang1there is an error22:10
flwang1and what i need to verify is when the exception will be thrown22:10
rosmaitaok22:11
flwang1when starting the glance-api or only when loading the strategy, because i haven't dig into the code22:11
flwang1but that's basically the idea22:11
nikhildef looks like a big change22:12
rosmaitaso i haven't dug too much either, but i think that validation function that isn't called is supposed to trigger when the glance-api starts22:12
rosmaitaso the operator gets quick feedback that a strategy is missing22:12
rosmaitathat was my impression, anyway22:12
nikhilthough ideally, we don't restrict the strategy but we sort of validate the use cases used for it22:12
rosmaitanikhil: yes, i think that as long as the operator has supplied strategy code, we'll use it22:13
rosmaitathe problem was that oslo_config was set up so that an operator could only use 1 of 2 specific values22:14
rosmaitaso we want to loosen that a bit without giving up entierly on some kind of validation of that config option22:14
flwang1nikhil: no, we're ristricting the strategy name by oslo, but we never use the method to verify it22:14
flwang1rosmaita: exactly22:14
flwang1rosmaita: so how about just use changbo's patch to 'loose' the ristriction22:15
flwang1and meanwhile, i need to use my patch to track how to fail quickly if the strategy name is invalid22:15
flwang1for operator22:15
nikhilI got the idea that we are restricting strategies top leve using config, though strategies can be simply supplied via ext modules22:16
flwang1and another thing maybe not related(but it does) to this, is the global location strategy is bad IMHO, which i commented to zhiyan when i reviewed the patch22:17
flwang1nikhil: yes, the idea is let operator can add customized strategy, but now they can't22:17
rosmaitaflwang1: do you know if many people use non default location strategies?22:17
nikhilis the idea that the stragy would be patch downstream from now on?22:17
nikhilstrategy would be patched*22:18
rosmaitanikhil: well, that's why i flagged you in irc just now22:18
flwang1rosmaita: i don't know, but given the change from https://review.openstack.org/26886522:18
rosmaitamaybe we don't want it to be so configurable?22:18
nikhilrosmaita: thanks for flagging. I think you are very right to raise the concern.22:18
rosmaitabut yes, basically what flwang1 says22:18
flwang1rosmaita: the original author of that patches comes from https://nectar.org.au/22:19
flwang1one of largest public cloud of AU22:19
nikhilrosmaita: flwang1 : I am cool with this idea. it basically facilitates operator what we really want them to do with locations.22:19
rosmaitait looks to me like the feature was designed so that an operator adds some code to the location strategy directory, changes the config option value, does a sighup, and away you go with the new strategy22:19
rosmaitaand if there's a problem, they change the config value back, sighup again, and back to normal22:20
rosmaitaflwang1: that's sam morrison's cloud, right?22:20
nikhilrosmaita: flwang1 : but I think we need to write good documentation for this change and possible remove any code that won't be used.22:20
nikhilrosmaita: yes, sam's22:20
flwang1nikhil: yep, so if we can 'open' the restriction, we can basically deny the patch https://review.openstack.org/268865 and let them keep it in downstream :)22:20
rosmaitanikhil: +122:20
nikhilflwang1: makes sense22:21
flwang1nikhil: just like powerVM driver ;)22:21
nikhilflwang1: but let's open with good instructions of how to setup and what consequences would be to use strategies in a particular way. the last thing we want is locations being used incorrectly, ifkwim :)22:21
rosmaitaso, flwang1 all i was requesting was to for you to say this in a bug, because i don't want to approve removing validation of a config option without there being some kind of plan22:21
flwang1rosmaita: yep, i agree. it's a bigger change than I thought22:22
nikhiloh, removing config needs standard deprecation path22:22
rosmaitajust in case you win the lottery or something and decide to stop working on glance, someone can pick it up  :)22:22
flwang1we need to loose the restriction and a better document22:22
rosmaitanikhil: won't remove the config, will still use it, just validate it differently22:23
flwang1nikhil: are you happy if i just use a bug to track this?22:23
flwang1nikhil: no22:23
rosmaitafwiw, i think it really is a bug fix22:23
flwang1we're NOT removing config22:23
nikhilok, I think I misread a irc chat above. pardon me.22:24
flwang1rosmaita: as for lottery22:24
nikhilflwang1: you can add info to the bug, I will use it to add to documentation separately. something I am planning to do regularly.22:24
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flwang1now the pool in NZ is $40M22:24
flwang1everybody is talking about lottery in NZ now22:25
flwang1nikhil: cool22:25
rosmaitawow, that's almost enough money to make me suspend my statistical knowledge and buy a ticket22:25
flwang1rosmaita: do you think we still need a separate bug?22:25
nikhilflwang1: just let me know when you've added so that I can followup.22:25
flwang1or just use that bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1598282  to track all the change?22:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1598282 in Glance "location strategy config shouldn't be ristricted" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Fei Long Wang (flwang)22:26
rosmaitaflwang1: not necessarily, i think if you just say what we've talked about in bullet points on your current bug, we can do partial-bug fixes22:26
flwang1rosmaita: ok, cool, that's basically i want to confirm with you22:27
flwang1and i'm happy now :)22:27
rosmaitame too!22:27
rosmaitaflwang1: hey, thanks for your reviews on the images api-ref22:27
rosmaitai have some questions for you on patch set 922:28
flwang1rosmaita: so i would suggest let changbo's patch depends on the patch i'm working on, that said, i don't want to see it's merged early22:28
flwang1and we do need a release note for this change, IMHO22:28
flwang1rosmaita: sure, api ref is always my fav topic :)22:28
flwang1rosmaita: i need to go in 30 mins, btw22:29
tsymanczykrosmaita : just by the by, i had a chance to look over the rolling upgrades spec and posted my only comment for now. i would not be against using the community images change as the experiment case. my only real concern would be that i'm not certain the implementation vision in my head matches what you have intended, and so me just spinning on it would pretty22:29
tsymanczykmuch guarantee community images would not make newton.22:29
rosmaitaflwang1: i am probably good with whatever strategy you think is the best way to fix the config option22:30
flwang1rosmaita: lovely22:30
rosmaitaflwang1: no rush on the api-ref, have a good weekend22:30
rosmaitabut if you win the lottery, promise you will hire a glance core to review it for you!22:30
flwang1rosmaita: cool, thanks. will catch you later about the api-ref22:30
rosmaitatsymanczyk: thanks ... we do not want to delay community images, so we can discuss next week22:31
flwang1rosmaita: if i win the lottery, i will stay in the team i promise, in case the rich life is too boring :D22:31
rosmaitatsymanczyk: i think the idea is not that you'd have to implement the rolling upgrade stuff yourself, hemanthm and i will help out22:32
rosmaitaflwang1: ok, have a good weekend!22:32
flwang1rosmaita: see you guys22:32
rosmaitatsymanczyk: but, yeah, if its going to delay past newton, i don't think we want to do it22:32
rosmaitaflwang1: bye22:32
tsymanczykrosmaita : if the intention is for you and hemanthm to help out then my concern is certainly lessened. my real concern came from the thankfully incorrect assumption of "new PoC requirement out of nowhere, deal with it tim".22:36
openstackgerritBrian Rosmaita proposed openstack/glance: WADL to RST migration (part 2 - metadefs)  https://review.openstack.org/33303122:37
rosmaitatsymanczyk: glad you raised the red flag ... that wasn't the intention!22:38
rosmaitasomeday all the api-ref will be merged and i will have my life back22:38
openstackgerritEric Brown proposed openstack/glance_store: Add bandit to pep8 and bandit testenv  https://review.openstack.org/31080322:39
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rosmaitatsymanczyk: thanks for your comments on the rolling upgrade spec, we are working on answers!  but right now, i agree, it's not clear exactly how this is supposed to work22:42
rosmaitajohn garbutt is convinced that when we write out operators instructions, it will become clear that we are being too ambitious to try to have the entire upgrade occur in a single cycle22:43
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rosmaitahasta la vista, folks, have a good weekend22:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/glance: Improving help text for public_endpoint  https://review.openstack.org/32612623:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack/glance: Add image signature verification metadefs  https://review.openstack.org/32911223:55
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