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| jokke_ | hemanthm: nothing personal. I really appreciate you looking after these! *hugs* | 01:01 |
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| Amit_ | Hello Team | 06:01 |
| Amit_ | I have been having this issue of Glance on installing openstack | 06:01 |
| Amit_ | Environment Details : RHEL 7.2 Kilo Packstack | 06:01 |
| Amit_ | ERROR : Error appeared during Puppet run: 192.168.2.10_manila.pp Error: Could not prefetch glance_image provider 'glance': Execution of '/usr/bin/glance --os-tenant-name services --os-username glance --os-password 36e253b1ace04d10 --os-region-name RegionOne --os-auth-url http://192.168.2.10:35357/ image-show fa5e52ac-8782-466c-9a3e-c739c5091558' returned 1: id | 06:01 |
| Amit_ | It tried running the command separately | 06:02 |
| Amit_ | what I get is only "id" | 06:02 |
| Amit_ | Appreciate any help or workaround | 06:02 |
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| Amit_ | Hello Team, | 06:05 |
| Amit_ | I had been trying to install openstack and have been having following Errors | 06:05 |
| Amit_ | ERROR : Error appeared during Puppet run: 192.168.2.10_manila.pp Error: Could not prefetch glance_image provider 'glance': Execution of '/usr/bin/glance --os-tenant-name services --os-username glance --os-password 36e253b1ace04d10 --os-region-name RegionOne --os-auth-url http://192.168.2.10:35357/ image-show fa5e52ac-8782-466c-9a3e-c739c5091558' returned 1: id | 06:05 |
| Amit_ | Environment :: RHEL 7.2 Openstack Kilo packstack RDO | 06:06 |
| Amit_ | I tried running the above command separately it just get the output as "id" | 06:06 |
| Amit_ | Appreciate any help with workaround | 06:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/318436 | 08:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/318436 | 08:10 |
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| abhishekk | hemanthm: hi you around? | 10:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Replace tempest_lib with tempest.lib https://review.openstack.org/319758 | 11:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dina Belova proposed openstack/glance: Use OSprofiler options consolidated in lib itself https://review.openstack.org/278157 | 11:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/glance: Convert to strutils.bool_from_string https://review.openstack.org/320362 | 11:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: Add filters and validators https://review.openstack.org/320370 | 11:25 |
| kairat | Amit_, try that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1581111/ | 11:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1581111 in Glance "glance-cache-prefetcher causes Unknown Scheme errors" [Undecided,New] | 11:26 |
| kairat | looks like you need to change default_store | 11:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | jingtao liang proposed openstack/glance: Remove the successful log if upload image failed https://review.openstack.org/320369 | 11:43 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_: my first draft had the word 'bullshit' in it | 11:55 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: :) | 11:57 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: I'd had probably +2d that happily as well :D | 11:57 |
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| bzurawski | Hi | 12:14 |
| bzurawski | is it possible to get image location by glanceclient API v2 ? | 12:14 |
| kairat | bzurawski, it is possible | 12:15 |
| kairat | but not recommended =) | 12:15 |
| bzurawski | kairat: why not recommended ? :P | 12:15 |
| kairat | https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/etc/glance-api.conf#L72 | 12:16 |
| kairat | You need to change that conf on back-end server | 12:16 |
| kairat | see description for the property | 12:16 |
| kairat | so you can use it at your own risk | 12:16 |
| bzurawski | kairat: aaa, and because it requires change on backend servers, that's why it's not recommended ? :) | 12:17 |
| kairat | you can show your back-end location to other users | 12:17 |
| kairat | sometimes locations can include important info | 12:17 |
| kairat | soo | 12:17 |
| kairat | use it at your own risk :P | 12:17 |
| bzurawski | kairat: hum, you're right but still thanks for info and explanation :) | 12:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Rosmaita proposed openstack/glance: WADL to RST migration (part 2) https://review.openstack.org/315335 | 12:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: [WIP] Glare https://review.openstack.org/292327 | 13:54 |
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| hemanthm | abhishekk: o/ | 14:06 |
| hemanthm | around now | 14:06 |
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| sudipto | mfedosin, Just curious. Will Glare support something like a docker file system? :) | 14:29 |
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| Amit_ | Hello Kairat, I Uncommented the line "stores=glance.store.swift.Store" however I after resuming the packstack installation packstack --answer-file=answerfile it again failed with following Error . Besides looks the glance-api.conf file get overwritten | 14:42 |
| Amit_ | ERROR :: | 14:43 |
| Amit_ | pplying 10.209.105.132_manila.pp 10.209.105.132_manila.pp: [ ERROR ] Applying Puppet manifests [ ERROR ] ERROR : Error appeared during Puppet run: 10.209.105.132_manila.pp Error: Could not prefetch glance_image provider 'glance': Execution of '/usr/bin/glance --os-tenant-name services --os-username glance --os-password 54b901ea04d244ca --os-region-name RegionOne --os-auth-url h | 14:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikhil Komawar proposed openstack/glance: Remove redundant store config from registry sample https://review.openstack.org/319564 | 15:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nolwenn Cauchois proposed openstack/glance: Fix bug Swift ACL which disappears on Glance v1 images https://review.openstack.org/320588 | 17:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nolwenn Cauchois proposed openstack/glance: Fix bug Swift ACL which disappears on Glance v1 images https://review.openstack.org/320595 | 17:41 |
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| Amit_ | Any Help On my Query , Thanks | 18:26 |
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| tsymanczyk | rosmaita i really appreciate you taking the time to address so many questions on the spec. | 18:48 |
| nikhil | Amit_: that's not enough info for us to help | 18:48 |
| nikhil | Amit_: btw, kilo isn't something we support | 18:48 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: np | 18:48 |
| nikhil | Amit_: but I can help if this is a generic issue | 18:48 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: i don't know what i think about the "breaking change" to the API ... guess it doesn't count to say that we should've done it this way in the first place | 18:50 |
| tsymanczyk | rosmaita: you're talking about the possibility of making sharing a two step process, and the backwards compatibility question? | 18:51 |
| rosmaita | yes | 18:51 |
| Amit_ | Thanks Nikhil for the reply !!!, I am just trying to figure out why is glance failing , Any specific logs you would like to have | 18:52 |
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| nikhil | Amit_: glance-api logs to begin with | 18:53 |
| nikhil | Amit_: btw, you should change your password if this is not a developer installation (leaked above) | 18:54 |
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| Amit_ | No worries about the password, this is the only warning I can find in glance | 19:00 |
| Amit_ | ""filesystem_store_datadir" from group "DEFAULT" is deprecated. Use option "filesystem_store_datadir" from group "glance_store"." | 19:00 |
| nikhil | Amit_: that should not be a issue | 19:01 |
| tsymanczyk | rosmaita : in that case i think personally i'm leaning towards making it backwards compatible, where adding a member to a 'private' image automatically (but explicitly) switches it to 'shared' behind the scenes. but doing so completely negates the potential use case you had previously brought up where an image owner may want to populate or edit the member | 19:01 |
| tsymanczyk | list while the image remains private. | 19:01 |
| tsymanczyk | rosmaita : do you happen to know the history regarding why the transitions in the etherpad remove the member list when going to public, but just keep it non-functional when switching to private? one of your comments from earlier brings up the problem case of community -> public -> community resetting everyone's bookmarks. i'm afraid i don't know the original | 19:03 |
| tsymanczyk | impetus for making -> public wipe the member list. | 19:03 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: yes, i wonder if there's a way to "deprecate" a way of doing things so we only support the back compat for 1 cycle or somethig | 19:03 |
| tsymanczyk | interesting | 19:03 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: i can't remember either, except that "public images don't have members" | 19:04 |
| rosmaita | but there doesn't seem to be a good reason why they can't have members that don't do anything | 19:04 |
| tsymanczyk | it may simplify things to some degree if the behaviours of -> public and -> private are the same. (member list untouched but useless). completely addresses your problem case. | 19:07 |
| tsymanczyk | as an aside, it seemed to me that switching to public would be a handy way of wiping the member list for whatever reason. but other than that i hadn't been able to picture a strong reason. | 19:08 |
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| nikhil | Amit_: check the verbose logs on the /usr/bin/glance call and try to make the "glance image-create ..." call manually | 19:31 |
| nikhil | Amit_: err, it's image-show not create | 19:32 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: i am inclined to your point of view (about keeping members on public images) | 19:34 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: i need to think some more and try to remember if there was a good reason why we didnt' want to keep members on public images | 19:35 |
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| tsymanczyk | sounds good, thanks! | 19:38 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: who adds members to public images with owner=NULL ? | 20:12 |
| nikhil | rather, who can add | 20:12 |
| rosmaita | i didn't think you could add members to public images at all | 20:13 |
| nikhil | (this may be food for thought) | 20:13 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: no, we can't today. I was just saying we need to consider this edge case. | 20:13 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: i still don't think anyone should be able to add members to a public image | 20:14 |
| rosmaita | i think the question is, do we kill the member list on visibility transition shared->public | 20:15 |
| rosmaita | but, if we did allow members to be added, i guess it should be on the model of community, that is, the image member, *not* the owner, creates the member | 20:16 |
| rosmaita | the only use case i see is: | 20:16 |
| rosmaita | if an operator uses public -> community to "retire" base images, a user might want to bookmark a public image so that they'll still have it in their image list when the image goes public->community | 20:17 |
| rosmaita | so i don't think a null owner would be a problem for that? wondering what you had in mind | 20:18 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: I was thiking the other way around of who is allowed to add members on an image. and in case of public (admin images or NULL owner images) it would be a issue. | 20:18 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: but the way you describe about changing behavior it doesn't seem to matter | 20:19 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: I do feel though, that this almost feels like bookmarking on it's own -- that can use members to bookmark image as a part of a list or a filter on a list | 20:20 |
| rosmaita | yes, the difference is: shared images-> owner creates members, community images->anybody *but* the owner can create members | 20:20 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: gotcha | 20:20 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: i think that's a good way to think of it, a member is just another filter | 20:21 |
| rosmaita | well, with the member_status complication | 20:21 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: if we can separate bookmarking from sharing, at least conceptually we can find a cleaner solution | 20:22 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: for example, I use "image-update --bookmark add" to add the image to my list | 20:22 |
| rosmaita | that's a good point, we may be trying to do too much with the current sharing model | 20:22 |
| rosmaita | on the other hand, the each image would have a "bookmark" list of tenants who had bookmarked it, which seems a lot like image members | 20:24 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: correct, but it's the other way around | 20:25 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: because the access permissions are on the sharing side | 20:25 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: sharing side meaning giving the ability to see image in a particular capacity (shared, private, community, public) -- all server side / owner specific operations | 20:26 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: while bookmarking is consumer side or member side capability | 20:26 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: very much like the can_share attr on members | 20:27 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: first one is image specific operation | 20:27 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: second one is member centric | 20:27 |
| nikhil | s/specific/centric/ | 20:27 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: that's a good point ... but i wonder if it means they need different backend mechanisms | 20:30 |
| rosmaita | the current design is trying to use the same backend to handle both cases | 20:30 |
| rosmaita | an as a result, you get the weird situation where you could make yourself a member of a community image, and then set your member_status == rejected, so that you can't see it! | 20:31 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: yeah, I need to think harder if we can keep backwards compatibility. while I think we can achieve this using the current backend-model but a different top level design. | 20:32 |
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| rosmaita | yes, that is definitely worth thinking about | 20:33 |
| tsymanczyk | rosmaita : from an internal perspective i agree that that's a weird situation, but is how i had been picturing a consumer choosing to "forget" a community image. | 20:35 |
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| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: that's a good point, do you mention in the spec that a member can make the DELETE v2/images/{id}/members/member_id call? | 20:36 |
| rosmaita | because i think that would be a better way to forget an image! | 20:36 |
| rosmaita | although, you could have temporary amnesia by making member_status=rejected | 20:37 |
| rosmaita | i guess it would make the image easier to find | 20:37 |
| rosmaita | like a bookmark that doesn't exist unless you go looking for it | 20:37 |
| tsymanczyk | there is nothing currently in the spec regarding deleting a member-record. | 20:37 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: definitely need to add it, because under the current scheme, only the image owner can delete members | 20:38 |
| tsymanczyk | seeing as how there's that same delete call for current image sharing, i certainly would be in favour of including it. | 20:39 |
| rosmaita | don't want that to be the case with community images | 20:39 |
| rosmaita | yeah | 20:39 |
| tsymanczyk | but certainly now setting yourself to member - > rejected becomes even weirder. | 20:39 |
| tsymanczyk | will add. | 20:39 |
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| rosmaita | pushkaru: i'm actually looking at your spec now | 20:41 |
| tsymanczyk | i remember a few days or so ago we were wondering in the community case if there was value in the different member statuses (pending / approved / rejected). it sort of made sense in my head for the case where a consumer wanted to forget a bookmark. but since now that'd presumably be the DELETE call, the member status field makes even less sense for the | 20:41 |
| tsymanczyk | community case. | 20:41 |
| pushkaru | rosmaita, thanks. | 20:42 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: yes, maybe nikhil is right that we need to separate bookmarking from membership | 20:43 |
| rosmaita | pushkaru: unfortunately, i think i am going to come to the same conclusion as hemanthm | 20:47 |
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| pushkaru | rosmaita, ok. I need to recheck nova db schema. But as per I remember nova does not store any image related info. | 20:49 |
| pushkaru | rosmaita, even if we do at nova side. the status change is going to be in glance | 20:49 |
| rosmaita | pushkaru: i think you are correct | 20:49 |
| pushkaru | rosmaita, hence, I thought its better to include in glance | 20:50 |
| rosmaita | pushkaru: i'll put some comments on the spec | 20:50 |
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| rosmaita | the problem is, glance doesn't know whether it's nova or a long-running user upload that's keeping the image queued | 20:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | nova stores a full copy of image metadata on boot | 20:51 |
| rosmaita | even worse, the new import workflow requires you to create an image in 'queued' status before doing the import | 20:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | as it might change after boot | 20:51 |
| rosmaita | johnthetubaguy: pushkaru means in the other direction | 20:51 |
| rosmaita | johnthetubaguy: does nova keep track that a server has had a snapshot made? | 20:51 |
| rosmaita | (the context is cleaning up image records in glance for failed snapshots) | 20:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, right, no I don't think that is tracked (although backup might be a slight exception to that) | 20:52 |
| rosmaita | interesting, i haven't dealt with backup at all | 20:52 |
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| rosmaita | pushkaru: sorry it took so long, but comment posted! | 21:07 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: is this a glance-spec? | 21:09 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: yes, pushkaru is intereseted in retargeting it to newton (it was proposed for mitaka) | 21:11 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242682/ | 21:11 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: just found it :) | 21:11 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: had to look it under pushkar's ownership as it was abandoned | 21:11 |
| rosmaita | ah, ok | 21:11 |
| rosmaita | not sure what i think exactly, i'm inclined to agree with hemanthm|afk ; on the other hand, queued images piling up is a PITA for operators | 21:12 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: I see | 21:14 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: pushkaru : the first like itself is enough for someone to put a -2 on the spec. but I've not done it ;-) | 21:15 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: pushkaru : the reason is it starts with Compute server ... glance is registry for cinder, ironic, etc | 21:15 |
| nikhil | s/registry/catalog/ | 21:16 |
| nikhil | s/etc/etc. too/ | 21:16 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: good point | 21:16 |
| nikhil | oops, pardon my grammer.. s/like/line/ | 21:17 |
| pushkaru | thanks rosmaita . I will have a look at your comment | 21:17 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: I added a comment | 21:23 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: ty | 21:23 |
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| flwang | rosmaita: nikhil: let me know if you guys are interested in the topic 'maintain the old/deprecated images' | 21:30 |
| nikhil | flwang: looks like we need to sync on some of those items from that operator discussion/session. | 21:32 |
| flwang | nikhil: yes | 21:32 |
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| flwang | i'm drafting the spec/mail | 21:32 |
| flwang | nikhil: generally, i think it's a nova work, since from the glance side, we can just leverage the 'deactivate' status | 21:33 |
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| rosmaita | flwang: yes, i am interested ... i was thinking the thing to do is to propose a user story with the product working group | 21:34 |
| rosmaita | i think we need some clarity about what exactly we want to accomplish, and how | 21:34 |
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| rosmaita | i am afraid that otherwise, what we come up with may be too "special purpose" or "ad hoc" | 21:35 |
| flwang | rosmaita: the basic goal is avoid launch/boot instance from the old images | 21:35 |
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| flwang | but rebuild, migration still work | 21:35 |
| flwang | so it's a work could be placed at the nova api layer | 21:35 |
| flwang | but the hard part, i guess nova don't care about this case :) | 21:36 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: I echo that | 21:36 |
| rosmaita | flwang: it's a bit tricky though, because glance has to be willing to hand over the image | 21:36 |
| flwang | though it's a really frustrating thing for the image maintainance, especially in public cloud | 21:36 |
| rosmaita | flwang: i understand your pain | 21:36 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: "hand over" ? | 21:37 |
| rosmaita | johnthetubaguy has talked about trying to define an image lifecycle to handle this kind of thing | 21:37 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: allow you to download the data | 21:37 |
| flwang | rosmaita: what's the image lifecycle? | 21:37 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: ok | 21:37 |
| rosmaita | flwang: the idea is different from image status in glance | 21:38 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: I may be a bit against that term tbh | 21:38 |
| flwang | like a new status of image to say it has been deprecated? | 21:38 |
| rosmaita | but to allow people to publish and then retire images | 21:38 |
| rosmaita | but still have them available for specific purposes | 21:38 |
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| rosmaita | nikhil: you are right, it is overloaded | 21:38 |
| flwang | rosmaita: i don't like it either | 21:39 |
| flwang | i don't think nova should recreate a wrapper for the image | 21:39 |
| rosmaita | flwang: i don't think he meant for it to be in nova | 21:40 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: proposal #14 still good a starting point ? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-summit-planning | 21:40 |
| flwang | nikhil: rosmaita: i'm thinking to add a new attribute for our image status's json schema | 21:40 |
| flwang | to define which status can do what kind of things | 21:40 |
| flwang | is it a bad idea? | 21:40 |
| rosmaita | not sure | 21:40 |
| nikhil | flwang: what's a json schema for status? does that exist today? | 21:41 |
| rosmaita | flwang: did you see this? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-properties-next-gen | 21:41 |
| rosmaita | not really a proposal, just some ideas | 21:41 |
| flwang | so that the consumer(nova, cinder, ironic) can know for each status what actions they can do | 21:41 |
| rosmaita | flwang: that sounds more like metadata | 21:41 |
| rosmaita | because i don't see how glance can enforce it? | 21:42 |
| rosmaita | it's up to the image consumer to decide what to do | 21:42 |
| flwang | rosmaita: glance don't have to enforce it | 21:42 |
| flwang | it's a policy | 21:42 |
| nikhil | flwang: it's a very scary proposal :) | 21:42 |
| nikhil | flwang: want to know why? | 21:42 |
| flwang | listening... | 21:43 |
| nikhil | image status is internal/operator specific thing | 21:43 |
| nikhil | once we change that to user facing, we will have twice as many issues with state transitions | 21:43 |
| flwang | nikhil: no | 21:43 |
| flwang | end user won't see any difference | 21:43 |
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| flwang | brb, need to join a quick standup meeting | 21:44 |
| flwang | https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/api/v2/images.py#L849 | 21:44 |
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| flwang | a new dict at here to map { 'status1': ['action1', 'action2'],} | 21:45 |
| nikhil | flwang: let's arrange a official sync on the week of june 7 to discuss fully and hopefully you will have a formal proposal. Just want to understand the problem statement and the thought process before jumping to conclusions. | 21:46 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: ^ | 21:46 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: flwang: sounds like a good idea to me | 21:47 |
| rosmaita | i mean a sync about this is a good idea | 21:47 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: flwang: may be couple hours before Thursday June 9th ? | 21:47 |
| rosmaita | not sure about the actual idea yet | 21:48 |
| nikhil | that would be 2000UTC | 21:48 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: you mean meet at 2000 utc on June 9? | 21:49 |
| rosmaita | i could do that | 21:49 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: yeah | 21:50 |
| rosmaita | or did you mean 2000 on June 8, which would be a couple of hours before June 9? | 21:50 |
| rosmaita | (which i could also do) | 21:51 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: ha! I see how confusing that statement was (though couple hours before june 9 would be 2200utc :-) but not in all TZ) | 21:51 |
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| flwang | so 22:00 UTC on Jun 9? | 21:52 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: flwang : a formal audio/video/irc sprint for 2 hours on the operator feedback at 2000 UTC on Thur Jun 9th ? | 21:52 |
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| flwang | nikhil: ok | 21:53 |
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| flwang | nikhil: but i have promised to those operators guys i will draft a spec and discuss it with nova guys | 21:53 |
| flwang | i mean they may expect me to do something before the next meeting ? | 21:54 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: that time works for me | 21:54 |
| nikhil | flwang: you can, but the way nova is going this cycle I doubt if it's possible to get anything new approved and merged :) | 21:54 |
| flwang | nikhil: hah | 21:55 |
| nikhil | flwang: I was hoping that we have this meeting with the operators who can make it :-) | 21:55 |
| flwang | nikhil: ok, so do you mean we can't make anything happen in nova this cycle ? :D | 21:55 |
| nikhil | flwang: I can't / don't want to comment on that .. I was merely giving a friendly tip/hint on the process they are following in newton . (they have 52 BPs in backlog) | 21:56 |
| flwang | nikhil: ok, i asked since your tips make me depressed :) | 21:57 |
| nikhil | flwang: sorry to hear that. | 21:57 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: ty | 21:58 |
| rosmaita | flwang: i think it's still worth getting a discussion going on this | 21:58 |
| flwang | rosmaita: oh, yes | 21:59 |
| flwang | i'm just frustrating | 21:59 |
| flwang | see this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164494/ | 22:00 |
| nikhil | flwang: woah! | 22:01 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: I think I need a completely different type of day for these operator discussions (may be I will take a couple of days off that week!). I was assuming all the end-user-issues were settling down the flames in newton =) | 22:04 |
| nikhil | redressal of end-user-issues** | 22:05 |
| rosmaita | flwang: tough crowd on that patch! | 22:06 |
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| rosmaita | nikhil: that sounds like a good idea, i think the discussion will be quite ... candid | 22:06 |
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| flwang | rosmaita: yep | 22:24 |
| flwang | after many patches, i was requested to draft a spec | 22:24 |
| flwang | and spec in nova generally means never | 22:24 |
| rosmaita | wow | 22:24 |
| flwang | yep, i'm complaining, haha | 22:25 |
| flwang | rosmaita: so meet at 2000 UTC on Thur Jun 9th ? | 22:27 |
| flwang | for the discussion, right? | 22:27 |
| flwang | before that, what should we do? | 22:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Timothy Symanczyk proposed openstack/glance-specs: Community image visibility https://review.openstack.org/271019 | 22:30 |
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| rosmaita | flwang: not sure what nikhil decided about that meeting, but hold the time open | 22:32 |
| flwang | rosmaita: ok | 22:32 |
| flwang | rosmaita: btw, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294337/ has been merged | 22:33 |
| flwang | rosmaita: i will submit a patch today | 22:33 |
| rosmaita | not sure what to do before that, i will be on vacation from after the glance meetings on thursday and back on tuesday june 7 | 22:33 |
| flwang | i mean a spec | 22:33 |
| flwang | rosmaita: ok | 22:33 |
| rosmaita | flwang: interesting ... you wanted to do something like that for image members? or was that someone else? | 22:34 |
| rosmaita | add me to the review when you put up the spec | 22:35 |
| flwang | rosmaita: yep, like i mentioned before, i would like to see glance to do the similar thing | 22:35 |
| flwang | verify the tennat id | 22:35 |
| flwang | rosmaita: sure | 22:35 |
| rosmaita | flwang: maybe we can leverage whatever it is nova's going to do. thanks for the link to the spec | 22:36 |
| flwang | rosmaita: yep, just let me know **now** if you don't like the idea, then i won't add you to the reviewer list and even add you on the blacklist :D | 22:37 |
| rosmaita | well, i don't *not* like the idea, just not sure i like it, either | 22:38 |
| rosmaita | but if nova is willing to take the performance hit, maybe i am being overly skeptical | 22:38 |
| flwang | rosmaita: i don't think there is any performance issue | 22:38 |
| flwang | given image sharing is not a frequent action | 22:39 |
| rosmaita | well, an extra call to a different service for each member added | 22:39 |
| rosmaita | but you may be right | 22:39 |
| rosmaita | it may not happen enough to be something to worry about | 22:39 |
| flwang | rosmaita: and if nova can do that for each instance action, i can't see why we should concern about that | 22:39 |
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| flwang | rosmaita: anyway, put your comments on the spec, you're always welcomed | 22:40 |
| rosmaita | flwang: i dont' want to be blacklisted, though! | 22:40 |
| flwang | rosmaita: haha, no problem, you can change your id :D | 22:41 |
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| rosmaita | good point, no validation! | 22:41 |
| rosmaita | flwang: i'm outta here, have a good day! | 22:44 |
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| flwang | rosmaita: see you :) | 22:48 |
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