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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance: Cause forbidden when deactivating image(non-admin) https://review.openstack.org/215656 | 01:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rajesh Tailor proposed openstack/glance: Validate string limit for input parameter https://review.openstack.org/203948 | 06:10 |
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| sudipto | flaper87, hi , are you here? | 07:55 |
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| jokke_ | kairat: ref https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228877/ & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228859/ We really shouldn't start breaking hacking guidelines without discussing through the reasoning and implications. It's fine to have project local deviations from the global lines, but they really need to be agreed before jumping into it. | 09:27 |
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| AJaeger | Is Erno Kuvaja around? | 09:28 |
| kairat | jokke_, translation functions are exception for this guideline | 09:28 |
| jokke_ | AJaeger: that would be me | 09:28 |
| jokke_ | kairat: read again, not anymore it seems http://docs.openstack.org/developer/hacking/#imports | 09:29 |
| AJaeger | jokke_: Thanks | 09:29 |
| AJaeger | Yes, that's what brought me here - translations | 09:29 |
| AJaeger | jokke_: I think that's an omission in hacking, see also | 09:29 |
| AJaeger | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/usage.html | 09:29 |
| kairat | +1 | 09:30 |
| AJaeger | all other projects do it the way it's been proposed in that change | 09:30 |
| jokke_ | AJaeger: I did, no mention there either ;) | 09:30 |
| jokke_ | AJaeger: I thought it might have moved there as it was there before | 09:30 |
| AJaeger | "from myapp.i18n import _, _LW" | 09:30 |
| AJaeger | See http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/usage.html#creating-an-integration-module | 09:31 |
| AJaeger | and http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/usage.html#handling-hacking-objections-to-imports | 09:31 |
| AJaeger | jokke_: the last link is relevant here... | 09:32 |
| jokke_ | AJaeger: that's fine ... I can write to glanceclient docs that all glance imports should be on one line and believe me, no-one will obey that ;) | 09:32 |
| jokke_ | I'd really like to know why that exception was removed from global hacking 'though | 09:32 |
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| AJaeger | jokke_: let'S search git log... | 09:33 |
| jokke_ | as said I'm not totally against this but as long as we claim to follow the hacking guidelines (which was the original reason for the implementation as it is) we need to make the decision either to deviate or to get that exception back there | 09:34 |
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| jokke_ | After that there is just the technicalities like instead of having 5 imports for i18n moving them all on same line | 09:35 |
| AJaeger | jokke_: I don't remember it ever been in there and can't find a patch removing it. | 09:35 |
| kairat | I also haven't seen it | 09:35 |
| * AJaeger just counts 78 import_exceptions in openstack namespace | 09:37 | |
| jokke_ | AJaeger: what's the repo for hacking? | 09:38 |
| AJaeger | (78 is not completely correct) | 09:38 |
| AJaeger | jokke_: openstack-dev/hacking | 09:38 |
| jokke_ | ah, it was -dev thnx | 09:38 |
| AJaeger | jokke_: do you want to propose a patch for it? I happily review and +1 ;) | 09:38 |
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| AJaeger | jokke_: putting them on a single line as you proposed " from glance.i18n import _, _C, _W " is done by some projects, I doubt there's a best practice for either way. | 09:41 |
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| jokke_ | AJaeger: it's just so much cleaner and pep8 is fine with that so why not ;) | 09:43 |
| kairat | IMO i think it is matter of style | 09:44 |
| kairat | at lest it is not a reason for -2 | 09:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: improve readme contents https://review.openstack.org/235204 | 09:46 |
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| jokke_ | AJaeger: https://review.openstack.org/235205 | 09:49 |
| AJaeger | jokke_: thanks - seen the notification already ;) | 09:49 |
| jokke_ | kairat: that is not, the hacking deviation is unless that is fixed or agreed | 09:49 |
| jokke_ | kairat: so if that ^^ change merges or we agree within glance to utilize that exception even if the wide community does not, I'm lifting that -2, not before ;) | 09:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: improve readme contents https://review.openstack.org/235204 | 09:51 |
| AJaeger | jokke_: the wider community already has the hacking exception in | 09:51 |
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| kairat | jokke_, ^ | 09:51 |
| AJaeger | jokke_: check nova/tox.ini or neutron/tox.ini | 09:52 |
| kairat | heat/tox.ini | 09:52 |
| AJaeger | Ok, I let you off the hook for now and say good-bye! | 09:53 |
| * AJaeger waves good-bye to the glance folks... | 09:54 | |
| jokke_ | o/~ | 09:54 |
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| AJaeger | jokke_: sorry, one more comment. | 09:59 |
| jokke_ | shoot | 09:59 |
| AJaeger | I think the import exception : "- imports from ``oslo-incubator.openstack.common.gettextutils`` module" | 09:59 |
| AJaeger | is exactly what we're talking about. | 09:59 |
| AJaeger | It was just never updated when oslo-incubator become oslo.i18n... | 09:59 |
| AJaeger | so, your patch could change that line as well... | 10:00 |
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| jokke_ | did the translations used to live in the gettextutils? | 10:01 |
| AJaeger | there'S no oslo-incubator.openstack.common.gettextutils anymore, it got removed with change Ib80a3f0b0f6e96065e86a9b477aebd8bce1201ba a year ago | 10:01 |
| AJaeger | jokke_: the translation functions lived in gettextutils yes | 10:01 |
| AJaeger | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123845/5/openstack/common/gettextutils.py | 10:02 |
| jokke_ | I thought there was that exception at some point! ... I'll change my Patch | 10:02 |
| AJaeger | so, you remembered correctly about the exception - just nobody updated it for today's situation ;) | 10:02 |
| AJaeger | jokke_: thanks! | 10:02 |
| jokke_ | or rather remove that old reference to that incubator package | 10:03 |
| AJaeger | jokke_: LGTM now, thanks | 10:05 |
| AJaeger | another try to wave good bye ;) | 10:08 |
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| flaper87 | sudipto: I am now :) | 10:40 |
| sudipto | flaper87, np - i synced up with mfedosin he seems to know the issue already :) | 10:43 |
| flaper87 | sudipto: awesome | 10:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudipta Biswas proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: consistent version format reporting https://review.openstack.org/235266 | 11:23 |
| sudipto | flaper87, mfedosin ^ | 11:23 |
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| flaper87 | sudipto: thank you :) | 11:29 |
| sudipto | flaper87, thanks :) | 11:29 |
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| tyagiprince2010 | Hey there... I installed glance and did some configurations. now when i run a command 'glance image-list' it says invalid credentials. | 12:48 |
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| jokke_ | flaper87, mfedosin: just blocked the sudipto's PS above. I don't think that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+bug/1505534 is actually correct and the change proposed would introduce the exact condition it claims to fix | 13:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505534 in python-glanceclient "glanceclient default version should be a string instead of float" [Low,Incomplete] - Assigned to Sudipta Biswas (sbiswas7) | 13:17 |
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| mfedosin | jokke_, I made a temporary workaround for Nova | 13:18 |
| mfedosin | it seems working | 13:19 |
| jokke_ | mfedosin: that wasn't my point | 13:19 |
| jokke_ | if nova excepts string it's wrong in Nova as we return _only_ floats | 13:19 |
| jokke_ | not either or ... but we would be returning strings and floats after that change | 13:20 |
| mfedosin | nova expects ints | 13:20 |
| mfedosin | but there is an inconsistency | 13:20 |
| mfedosin | int and float | 13:21 |
| mfedosin | if we manually set version there will be 2, but by default it's 2.0 | 13:21 |
| jokke_ | so what we need to do is to set Nova expecting float and format the float at https://github.com/openstack/python-glanceclient/blob/master/glanceclient/common/utils.py#L399 to always contain the decimal | 13:23 |
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| jokke_ | but passing string there and randomly returning floats or strings is definitely not the solution for this | 13:24 |
| jokke_ | or then we need to return string everywhere | 13:26 |
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| mfedosin | jokke_, ah, sorry not 'int' - 'str' of course | 13:26 |
| mfedosin | so the problem is - if you provide an endpoint - it will return string, if not - it will be float | 13:27 |
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| mfedosin | it's definitely type inconsistency we must fix | 13:28 |
| jokke_ | mfedosin: not correct | 13:28 |
| jokke_ | if you provide it in endpoint it will still return float ... see my link above | 13:29 |
| mfedosin | okay I see | 13:30 |
| jokke_ | so merging the change would mean that if you provide endpoint it still returns float, but default would return string | 13:31 |
| mfedosin | This means that Sudipto has confused us all :) | 13:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/glance: Merge tag '11.0.0' https://review.openstack.org/235346 | 13:37 |
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| jokke_ | mfedosin: and actually float("1") even returns 1.0 so we will never return anything else than real floats from there :) | 13:41 |
| jokke_ | seems that it was assumed, never verified | 13:41 |
| mfedosin | jokke_, yup, so the bug is invalid | 13:43 |
| jokke_ | mfedosin: I'm happy to wait until he comes back and tells if that is the case or if there is indeed somewhere gotcha that dumps string out | 13:44 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: mfedosin lets wait for him to get back on the bug | 13:51 |
| flaper87 | thanks for digging into this | 13:51 |
| mfedosin | jokke_, +1. In Nova we wait version as a string, but we can easily convert it | 13:51 |
| jokke_ | btw we just got our shiny tag | 13:52 |
| flaper87 | yup | 13:52 |
| jokke_ | Glance Liberty is finally out there! | 13:52 |
| jokke_ | quick vape before meeting | 13:52 |
| mfedosin | also in Nova we don't provide endpoint there | 13:52 |
| kragniz | woo! | 13:52 |
| mfedosin | HOORAY | 13:52 |
| kairat | Congrats | 13:53 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, ivasilevskaya, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, | 13:56 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 13:56 |
| flaper87 | meeting is in 5 mins | 13:56 |
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| rosmaita | mclaren: do you have a few min? | 15:29 |
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| nikhil | flaper87: hi, if you are still around. DO you want to discuss the CPL details now ? | 15:34 |
| mclaren | rosmaita: yup | 15:34 |
| rosmaita | mclaren: my plan with the spec is to put up a new patch set incorporating the minor changes and uncontroversial stuff that's easy to address | 15:35 |
| mclaren | sounds good | 15:35 |
| mclaren | does that include some of the pros and cons of the bit transfer? | 15:36 |
| rosmaita | what i'd like to do at some point is for us to get together and identify the key 4 or 5 things that must be discussed at the summit | 15:36 |
| mclaren | the options I mean | 15:36 |
| rosmaita | i think the actual bit transfer is something that needs to be hammered out in person | 15:36 |
| mclaren | sure. | 15:36 |
| rosmaita | but, i don't know whether we do that on a summit etherpad, or keep it on the spec | 15:37 |
| mclaren | phone call beforehand, or meet in Tokyo? | 15:37 |
| rosmaita | when are you leaving for T? | 15:37 |
| mclaren | The Saturday be fore | 15:37 |
| rosmaita | ok, is the regular glance meeting time good for you? | 15:38 |
| mclaren | should be, yes | 15:38 |
| rosmaita | ok, let's use that time | 15:38 |
| rosmaita | let | 15:39 |
| mclaren | sounds good | 15:39 |
| mclaren | phone is highest bandwidth? | 15:39 |
| rosmaita | let's meet in #openstack-glance and then we can switch to phone call if too much typing is involved | 15:39 |
| rosmaita | or we can just call | 15:39 |
| rosmaita | what do you prefer? | 15:39 |
| mclaren | we can call and switch to irc if bandwidth is too high :-) | 15:39 |
| rosmaita | ok! | 15:40 |
| mclaren | super! | 15:40 |
| rosmaita | quick question: have you seen any of the stuff on the Rackspace website about image conversion? | 15:40 |
| mclaren | a bit | 15:41 |
| rosmaita | i was thinking of this one: https://developer.rackspace.com/blog/bootstrap-your-qcow-images-for-the-rackspace-public-cloud/ | 15:41 |
| mclaren | oh wait, I mainly just saw how to patch the xen code | 15:41 |
| mclaren | ah yes, I read that one | 15:41 |
| mclaren | and poked around in the scripts a bit | 15:42 |
| rosmaita | ok | 15:42 |
| mclaren | I think it's similar to this https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2012/10/04/convert-a-raw-image-to-xenserver-vhd/ | 15:43 |
| mclaren | The original magic patch is here http://old-list-archives.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2010-07/msg00694.html | 15:43 |
| mclaren | My experiments, based on a sample size of one!, suggest the resulting dynamic image is BIG | 15:44 |
| rosmaita | i saw that, it was pretty surprising | 15:45 |
| mclaren | Do you have any data points for image sizes created using the 'magic patch' vhd-utils method? | 15:45 |
| rosmaita | no, our base images are created on xen server | 15:45 |
| mclaren | Ok, I probably can't ask about non rackspace created images | 15:46 |
| rosmaita | yeah, we don't have much experience with those | 15:47 |
| rosmaita | i think that CoreOS is preparing the images for our cloud themselves, though | 15:47 |
| rosmaita | and those are pretty small | 15:47 |
| mclaren | interesting, wonder how they do it? | 15:48 |
| rosmaita | i think brian waldon, former glance PTL, does it | 15:49 |
| rosmaita | he may be at the summit | 15:49 |
| mclaren | maybe it's a case of if you create an image from scratch that tooling gives you something small, but the patched vhd-utils converting from raw just happens to be inefficient | 15:49 |
| mclaren | Ah, I might ask him if I can dig up a new email | 15:49 |
| rosmaita | you can probably guess | 15:50 |
| rosmaita | firstname dot lastname at coreos dot com | 15:51 |
| mclaren | ack | 15:51 |
| mclaren | I'm kind of mainly curious, but wonder if it would be nice for all clouds to accept 'raw' (you'd need some reasonable tooling, not having deployers patch stuff) | 15:52 |
| rosmaita | i'm not really sure | 15:52 |
| rosmaita | main drawback is how big they are | 15:52 |
| mclaren | yeah, I saw your comment | 15:52 |
| rosmaita | i'm going to run and get lunch ... ttyl | 15:53 |
| mclaren | they're sparse and compressible though | 15:53 |
| mclaren | sure | 15:53 |
| rosmaita | yes, as long as we can handle the compression bombs | 15:53 |
| rosmaita | which i believe is doable | 15:53 |
| rosmaita | just has to be done | 15:53 |
| rosmaita | kind of expands scope fast | 15:53 |
| mclaren | sure, this isn't in scope -- agreed | 15:54 |
| mclaren | blue sky :-) | 15:54 |
| kairat | Does anybody know: should we allow users to add location if show_multiple_locations is false | 15:55 |
| kairat | ? | 15:55 |
| kairat | And delete locations of course | 15:55 |
| nikhil | no | 15:56 |
| nikhil | idealy | 15:56 |
| mclaren | is that the set_location policy? | 15:56 |
| kairat | nope. it is config option | 15:56 |
| kairat | it prohibits showing location info in glance output | 15:57 |
| kairat | nikhil, so this option should prohibit locations usage at all then? | 15:57 |
| kairat | Ok, I need to go home=) | 15:59 |
| kairat | Looks like I should write a letter about it | 15:59 |
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| kairat | although if we will move to policies instead of this option the problem will gone, yep | 16:01 |
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| nikhil | kairat: it should avoid all operations akaik. I've not tested it for add personally though and trusting based on some test suite.. | 16:07 |
| nikhil | kairat: I think the problem may not be all gone. But yes, let's discuss all details. | 16:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Deepti Ramakrishna proposed openstack/glance: Fix incorrect Glance image metadata description https://review.openstack.org/210854 | 17:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Deepti Ramakrishna proposed openstack/glance: Show the file name when there is an error loading an image metadef file https://review.openstack.org/210879 | 19:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/glance: Add more tests which pass on Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/231010 | 19:54 |
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