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| nikhil | jokke_: RC2 is quite possible. with config issues, it seems very important. and yes, we need bugs + liberty-rc-potential tag on them for all reviews needed for rc2 | 01:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Fix 'Expected endpoint' error https://review.openstack.org/228687 | 01:48 |
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| flaper87 | jokke_: good morning! | 07:32 |
| flaper87 | I've been doing some stable backports lately. Mind if I bother you with some review requests? It'd be great to have another patch release for the client when liberty is going out. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228394/ | 07:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-glanceclient: Add check Identity validate when get schemas https://review.openstack.org/194076 | 08:22 |
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| zigo | I updated the bug entry with my logs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1500361/ | 09:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1500361 in Glance "Generated config files are completely wrong" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Erno Kuvaja (jokke) | 09:09 |
| zigo | jokke_: ^ | 09:09 |
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| jokke_ | thanks zigo I'll have a look | 09:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Niall Bunting proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Remove self from image-create/image-update https://review.openstack.org/223675 | 09:50 |
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| jokke_ | flaper87: good! | 09:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Import i18n functions directly https://review.openstack.org/228819 | 10:16 |
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| sudipto | flaper87, here now. | 11:01 |
| flaper87 | sudipto: awesome! | 11:01 |
| flaper87 | sudipto: so, mfedosin is the guy I told you that will be working on that spec from the Glance side | 11:02 |
| flaper87 | that means, you both will be working together to make this happen | 11:02 |
| sudipto | flaper87, that sounds good to me. | 11:02 |
| flaper87 | Unfortunately, until the spec is done and out, it'll be hard to split tasks but, it's great to have you both there | 11:02 |
| sudipto | yeah let him/you go first - and i in the meantime, am figuring out some issues with the compatibility thing you spoke about earlier. | 11:03 |
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| flaper87 | but as I said, I'll get that done soon | 11:03 |
| sudipto | i posted a patch out yesterday - and i am hitting just what you meant :) | 11:03 |
| flaper87 | sudipto: sounds perfect | 11:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | can I help get the nova spec get more attention, it would be great to get this moving forward ASAP | 11:03 |
| flaper87 | johnthetubaguy: yes, I was planning to do a shameless ping as soon as it's out | 11:03 |
| sudipto | so i am planning to use some of your code in that HUGE patchset you had, hope that's fine. | 11:04 |
| flaper87 | it's pretty much just like the other one with comments addressed and some other parts of the old one | 11:04 |
| flaper87 | johnthetubaguy: main goal, make small changes, get something out for M-1 | 11:04 |
| flaper87 | we'll have more refactors coming later on and we'll need help from more folks depending on the hypervisor | 11:04 |
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| flaper87 | but at least, we can get the nova.images code to talk to v2 | 11:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | flaper87: sounds like a top plan to me | 11:05 |
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| flaper87 | sudipto: that's more than fine! I think mfedosin is out today but he'll be back, hopefully, tomorrow! Please, do sync with him when it comes to re-using code from that patchset and scheduling tasks! | 11:05 |
| sudipto | flaper87, aye aye! | 11:05 |
| flaper87 | sudipto: feel free to ping me anytime, I'm here to help and make things move forward as smooth as possible | 11:06 |
| sudipto | flaper87, just curious - is there a way to learn about the compatibility issues between these two version via any documentation? | 11:06 |
| sudipto | other than code ofcourse. | 11:06 |
| flaper87 | sudipto: mmh, I guess the easiest way is not even the code but just calling the API | 11:07 |
| flaper87 | sudipto: for example: glance -d -v --os-image-api-version 1 image-list | 11:07 |
| flaper87 | and then: glance -d -v --os-image-api-version 2 image-list | 11:08 |
| sudipto | flaper87, sure I was planning to do so as the last resort anyway. | 11:08 |
| sudipto | flaper87, sure. | 11:08 |
| flaper87 | That'll show you the differences between both API in terms of requests and responses | 11:08 |
| flaper87 | it's way clearer and easier to understand, imho | 11:08 |
| kairat | There was some docs from mclaren | 11:08 |
| flaper87 | kairat: yeah, good point! | 11:08 |
| * flaper87 gets that link | 11:08 | |
| flaper87 | kairat: although those were specific to the client, IIRC | 11:08 |
| flaper87 | kairat: sudipto https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Glance-v2-v1-client-compatability | 11:09 |
| * flaper87 loves pentadactyl | 11:09 | |
| flaper87 | actually, that wiki is specific to the CLI | 11:09 |
| sudipto | flaper87, still ok. thx. | 11:11 |
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| flaper87 | sudipto: awesome! | 11:12 |
| flaper87 | sudipto: ping anytime | 11:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Import i18n functions directly https://review.openstack.org/228819 | 11:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Do not use openstack.common.i18n in glance client https://review.openstack.org/226852 | 11:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Add translation to v2 shell https://review.openstack.org/228854 | 11:17 |
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| sudipto | flaper87, sure! | 11:24 |
| lakshmiS | flaper87: did you get a chance to relook at this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221307/ | 11:26 |
| flaper87 | lakshmiS: I haven't, TBH. But I will soon | 11:28 |
| flaper87 | lakshmiS: likely tomorrow but before our meeting on thursday | 11:28 |
| flaper87 | lakshmiS: sorry about that | 11:28 |
| flaper87 | lakshmiS: FWIW, I don't mind that patch landing. What concerns me is it being ported to the rc branch | 11:28 |
| flaper87 | that's what I'd like to avoid | 11:29 |
| flaper87 | I'll take a better look | 11:29 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: jokke_ it'd be great to get your feedback on ^ too! | 11:29 |
| lakshmiS | flaper87: no problem. decision before thursday's meeting would be nice. have to do some tasks in searchlight based on the outcome of this patch | 11:29 |
| flaper87 | lakshmiS: you can count on that! We'll also need to sync with nikhil_k since this is liberty material and he's the PTL for the Liberty cycle. | 11:30 |
| lakshmiS | flaper87: thanks | 11:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: Import i18 functions directly https://review.openstack.org/228859 | 11:45 |
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| kairat | jokke_, do you have any chance to look at this bug? | 11:53 |
| kairat | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213925/ | 11:53 |
| kairat | jokke_, ^ | 11:53 |
| jokke_ | kairat: in a while ... I need to take care of the Cross-Project meeting agenda e-mail first | 11:54 |
| kairat | jokke_, ok, no problem | 11:54 |
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| zigo | jokke_: I have found what my issue is. | 12:41 |
| zigo | jokke_: It's the https vs http ... | 12:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: Import i18n functions for all modules directly https://review.openstack.org/228877 | 12:41 |
| zigo | When I set glance to use http instead of https, it works. | 12:41 |
| zigo | So I believe this bug can be closed as soon as the file is generated correctly. | 12:41 |
| jokke_ | zigo: gr8 that you got it figured out. Now we just need to see what's the problem with the https then ;) | 12:49 |
| zigo | jokke_: I guess it's just my louzy setup with no real keys and such. | 12:50 |
| zigo | I don't think we need to care that much. | 12:50 |
| zigo | At least I don't. | 12:50 |
| zigo | I'm setting http by default in my package so that my CI can work. | 12:50 |
| jokke_ | oh good ... that sounds like good news then | 12:50 |
| zigo | If I find the time, I'll set it all to use the default SSL config in Debian (ie: the ssl-certificate package configures a self-generated cert in /etc/something, which is IMO what we should use by default). | 12:52 |
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| jokke_ | zigo: yeah, just remember to pass the insecure then so that we don't raise errors for not being able to validate the certs in your CI | 12:57 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: bug 1485792 when you have time for it | 12:57 |
| openstack | bug 1485792 in Glance "Glance create an image with incorrect location" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1485792 - Assigned to Kairat Kushaev (kkushaev) | 12:57 |
| zigo | Yup. | 12:57 |
| zigo | The point is to use the self-generated cert, then an admin would just replace that, which would be super easy. | 12:58 |
| jokke_ | yeah | 12:58 |
| jokke_ | kairat: +a | 12:58 |
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| flaper87 | jokke_: moved under glance-store and targeted to liberty | 13:02 |
| flaper87 | it was filed under Glance | 13:02 |
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| kairat | jokke_, thanks! | 13:02 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: oh that I missed | 13:06 |
| jokke_ | thanks ... I think that's worth of backporting | 13:07 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: yup! Kilo sounds good too | 13:08 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: targeted | 13:09 |
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| jokke_ | :) | 13:14 |
| rosmaita | flaper87: just got in, will get you feedback you requested in a few min | 13:18 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: good morning from EDT | 13:19 |
| jokke_ | Hi rosmaita ... how is life over there? | 13:20 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: good morning! Sounds great. No need for immediate feedback but the sooner the better. We should be able to make a final call before our next meeting on Thursday | 13:20 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: rain of biblical proportions this morning | 13:20 |
| rosmaita | flaper87: good morning to you too | 13:20 |
| rosmaita | and congratulations! | 13:20 |
| jokke_ | that's good .. no risks for forest fires then :P | 13:20 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: thanks :) | 13:20 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: ended the drought in one day, i think | 13:21 |
| jokke_ | way to go, nature takes care of it's own | 13:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance_store: Catch InvalidURL when requesting store size https://review.openstack.org/213925 | 13:57 |
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| nikhil_k | flaper87: you wanna run the drivers meeting today? would be an early start for mitaka if so.. | 14:00 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil_k: sure! Here and ready. Considering mitaka development has been opened, I guess we can switch | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k: fine if you run it too, btw | 14:02 |
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| nikhil_k | flaper87: oops, just saw this (got too involved) | 14:16 |
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| rosmaita | dhellmann: got a question for you | 14:37 |
| dhellmann | rosmaita: here | 14:37 |
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| rosmaita | dhellmann: at one point there was talk about defcore qualification-by-component, so for example you could have a Large Public Cloud that exposes all defcore abilities for Nova but not for Glance, it could be "LPC Compute powered by OpenStack" but not "LPC Images powered by OpenSTack" ... whatever happened to that? | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | my impression is that it's all-or-nothing now, is that correct? | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | rosmaita: there are several programs right now. I don't remember the names exactly, but there's one for "platform" I think that includes everything, there's one for compute that is everything except swift, and there's one for storage which is just swift | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | now, "everything except swift" for compute is a bit vague, because of the way defcore actually works | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | until there are tests that talk to the glance API directly, it's not clear to me that glance itself is required | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | right now there's just v2-image-list | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | (i think) | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | the tests that talk to the nova proxy might also apply, since the nova code itself is required and that is written to talk to glance | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | but I would be more comfortable with direct tests | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | just noticed that in 2015.05, images-v2 is identified as "nova" | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | but described as "CRUD image operations in Images API v2" | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | yeah, it's all a bit of a mess | 14:44 |
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| rosmaita | dhellmann: just one more question, about swift, it's listed as Required Capabilities in 2015.05 | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | does that just mean swift is the ref impl, and any impl that satisfies the API is OK? | 14:47 |
| wznoinsk | hi cores et al | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | 'cause i thought someone was saying last week that swift is not required | 14:47 |
| wznoinsk | would I need a light-spec as suggestes by flavio for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218869/ ? | 14:47 |
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| rosmaita | wznoinsk: flavio +2d your patch, so i think that comment was for the glance drivers to note | 14:48 |
| nikhil_k | what rosmaita said | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | we're trying to come up with something that's inbetween a bug and a full spec, to cover quick changes | 14:49 |
| nikhil_k | wznoinsk: ^ | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | rosmaita: no, we also have designated sections of code, which means that you have to run the source produced by the community | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | rosmaita: swift is not required for the compute trademark program | 14:50 |
| * nikhil_k smells patent-like form soon to come | 14:50 | |
| rosmaita | dhellmann: ok, so code not required, but capability is? | 14:50 |
| nikhil_k | don't think so rosmaita | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | dhellmann: just trying to determine whether we can assume some kind of object store for the upcoming discussion | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | rosmaita: you cannot | 14:51 |
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| dhellmann | rosmaita: there are 3 programs: platform, compute, storage. Platform requires all capabilities. Compute requires everything except the object store. Glance must work with the compute program. | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | dhellmann: thanks, that clarifies things | 14:52 |
| dhellmann | rosmaita: so it's fine to have 2 implementations, and have one of those require an object store, but you must also provide an option that does not | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | dhellmann: in such a scenario, what would a deployment have to expose? both or just one? | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | rosmaita: http://www.openstack.org/brand/interop/ | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | dhellmann: thanks for that link | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | rosmaita: think of it like a driver in cinder -- you can have a driver for proprietary hardware, but you can't require all deployments to use that driver | 14:53 |
| wznoinsk | rosmaita: nikhil_k thanks for the info, given it can't land in liberty do you know when the mitaka branch will be open? | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | rosmaita: so you want the basic non-object-store driver to always work, and if the object store is there that driver can also be enabled | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | wznoinsk: i think master is now mitaka | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | nikhil_k: ^^ | 14:54 |
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| rosmaita | nikhil_k: please confirm | 14:54 |
| dhellmann | rosmaita: note that supporting a way to get images into glance without an object store does not also mean that glance needs a direct upload api (a pull-based import from a URL is fine) | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | so for compute you could potentially use glance with swift backend talking to something that delivers swift api but is not swift ;) | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | dhellmann: thanks, this has been helpful | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | jokke_: no, we need an implementation that doesn't require a small deployment to set up an object store at all | 14:56 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: the bluejeans link you gave out in that meeting invitation seems to have expired? | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: I meant it other way around .. in that case they could use compute definition, but not platform | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: mmh, seems weird. I'm in now | 14:56 |
| wznoinsk | rosmaita: nikhil_k if so would I rebase my patch and it would be reviewed for Mitaka then? | 14:56 |
| dhellmann | ok, let me go back to the web site and try again | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | need to run ... ttyl | 14:57 |
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| nikhil_k | wznoinsk: rosmaita is right, master is now running mitaka (whatever goes in liberty RCs would be backported). So feel free to keep it as is. | 14:59 |
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| nikhil_k | wznoinsk: unless tests fail or something like that.. | 14:59 |
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| TravT | flaper87: are you around? | 15:26 |
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| flaper87 | TravT: I'm now but not for long, gotta run in a couple of mins | 16:03 |
| TravT | oh hey. just read through the drivers transcript this morning. | 16:03 |
| TravT | understand the concerns on the members notifications... | 16:04 |
| TravT | but can you try to get the patch looked at pretty soon for mitaka? | 16:04 |
| flaper87 | TravT: absolutely! | 16:04 |
| flaper87 | As far as mitaka is concerned, the patch could land even today | 16:05 |
| flaper87 | The important thing, imho, is that we shouldn't backport it to the rc branch | 16:05 |
| TravT | we're just going to put a release note in searchlight for liberty saying that if a deployer wants to get correct results for membership, they'll have to carry that patch themselves or set up a cron job to do periodic full reindexing. | 16:05 |
| flaper87 | TravT: ++ | 16:06 |
| TravT | but we're going to go ahead and add listening for the notification into searchlight liberty. | 16:06 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: thanks again :) | 16:06 |
| flaper87 | TravT: sounds good, thanks! | 16:06 |
| TravT | cool, thanks! definitely appreciate it. if you could at least ensure the notification names look good on that patch, then we can include the listener config in searchlight. | 16:07 |
| flaper87 | TravT: will review before the end of this week | 16:07 |
| flaper87 | hope that's soon enough for you guys | 16:07 |
| TravT | :) | 16:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: Change string generation mechanism for info logging https://review.openstack.org/229026 | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: Format log messages correctly https://review.openstack.org/229027 | 16:15 |
| rosmaita | flaper87: np | 16:20 |
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| nikhil_k | flaper87: sigmavirus24 rosmaita jokke_ ativelkov mfedosin sabari dhellmann flwang TravT : guys, what do you think about having a day long (or split over >1 days for TZ reasons) pre-summit discussion? to plan/prioritize/learn what all to expect at the summit and also to make it more productive? | 16:52 |
| ativelkov | ++ | 16:53 |
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| sigmavirus24 | nikhil_k: I'll do my best to attend. Not sure y'all want me around since I won't be attending the summit | 16:53 |
| sabari | nikhil_k ++ | 16:54 |
| nikhil_k | I was just proposing and you are most welcome always sigmavirus24! | 16:54 |
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| kragniz | bonus sigmavirus24 content! | 16:56 |
| kragniz | nikhil_k: I'd like to listen in | 16:57 |
| nikhil_k | kragniz: hey hey! | 17:00 |
| nikhil_k | I will let flaper87 take the mic but can definitely help plan if people are interested. | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance: Return missing authtoken options https://review.openstack.org/228401 | 17:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | woah it's kragniz | 17:04 |
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| dhellmann | nikhil_k: I would try to attend those meetings, but it might be tough leading up to the summit because of my release duties | 17:16 |
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| nikhil_k | dhellmann: sure, np. it's mostly for awareness too (from my POV) | 17:23 |
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