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| zigo | What is the new glance-artifacts for? | 06:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Erno Kuvaja proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Don't make `help` require auth parameters https://review.openstack.org/220096 | 10:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/glance: Support replacing of blobs in artifacts https://review.openstack.org/220988 | 10:52 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: jokke_ (stuart wherever you are) bunting Anything else, from https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+bugs?field.tag=1.0.0-potential that we sould totally have in the 1.0.1 release of glanceclient ? | 11:39 |
| flaper87 | pls, lets not start he compatibility discussion again, I'm asking about bugs and critical things | 11:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance: Remove old traces of the oslo-incubator https://review.openstack.org/218942 | 11:40 |
| flaper87 | in other words, I'd appreciate some help going through that list and finding things that *must*/*can* be fixed before the next patch release | 11:41 |
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| bunting | flaper87: I'll have a look now | 12:30 |
| bunting | flaper87: Do we know what is already in? Or is the whole list up for discussion? | 12:31 |
| flaper87 | bunting: what's in "Fix Committed" state should be in | 12:32 |
| bunting | doh, yeah of course | 12:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Invalid output running the command 'glance image-show <image_id>' https://review.openstack.org/219338 | 12:37 |
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| flaper87 | sigmavirus24_awa: jokke_ when you guys have a chance, could you pls update this bug w/ some comments? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+bug/1475640 | 12:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475640 in python-glanceclient "Glance client no longer outputs to stdout" [High,Triaged] | 12:44 |
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| flaper87 | I think it's an important discussion to have | 12:45 |
| flaper87 | or feel free to ignore me, that also works | 12:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Jake Yip proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Updates default --sort behaviour https://review.openstack.org/221234 | 12:45 |
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| bunting | flaper87: I added this one, i think this would be important to fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+bug/1492887 | 12:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1492887 in python-glanceclient "image-list returns empty when upgrading to new v1.0.0 client" [Undecided,New] | 12:57 |
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| jokke_ | flaper87: seconded my earlier comment on that bug | 13:01 |
| jokke_ | bunting: we were talking about that earlier, but Stuart already -1'd the fix for that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221234/ | 13:04 |
| jokke_ | honnestly I don't think we should have any of those values fed in by client if user does not. | 13:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-glanceclient: Don't make `help` require auth parameters https://review.openstack.org/220096 | 13:10 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: around? | 13:12 |
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| maishsk | Good afternoon | 14:26 |
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| maishsk | I haev some security paranoid people that have some paranoid questions (ok they are valid) regarding how Glance handles images | 14:26 |
| maishsk | specifically - how are images that are uploaded to glance verified? | 14:27 |
| maishsk | anyone around to help / point me in the right direction? | 14:27 |
| bunting | the server does calculate an md5sum of an image uploaded | 14:28 |
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| maishsk | bunting: OK - and is that md5sum used anywhere in the creation of a new instance? | 14:30 |
| maishsk | I guess what I am asking - is how do I know that the image that was uploaded to glance is really (with certainty) the image that is being used to deploy a new instance | 14:30 |
| bunting | Well if you upload an image the md5 will be returned so you can verify that it is the correct image. If it is manipulated on the sever, I think you have bigger issues to deal with | 14:31 |
| maishsk | obviously | 14:31 |
| maishsk | but will glance check that the md5sum is correct before I a new instance is spawned? | 14:32 |
| maishsk | Or does it assume that the image is what it says it is? | 14:33 |
| hemanthm_ | I'd expect nova to do that check | 14:33 |
| maishsk | hemanthm_: pls explain? Why Nova. | 14:34 |
| hemanthm_ | maishsk: let me see if I understoof your question properly. You are asking whether anyone (nova or glance) verifies the checksum after downloading an image to boot? | 14:36 |
| maishsk | hemanthm_: I guess you can phrase it that way. | 14:37 |
| maishsk | or alternatively.. | 14:37 |
| maishsk | How can I know that the image that I asked to boot from - is actually the one that was originally registered in glance - and has not been maliciously tampered with in some way? | 14:38 |
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| maishsk | If you say that before a new image is booted, glance checks that the registered image is matches the md5sum - perfect | 14:39 |
| maishsk | If you say that before nova boots from the image - it checks that the md5sum matches the one that is registered in glance - then great | 14:39 |
| maishsk | I just want to know if that is exactly waht happens - and where? | 14:40 |
| hemanthm_ | maishsk: that's a valid concern. | 14:42 |
| hemanthm_ | maishsk: we would have to rely on checksum for now | 14:42 |
| hemanthm_ | but there is this change brianna is working on which uses signatures | 14:42 |
| hemanthm_ | let me point you to the spec | 14:43 |
| maishsk | hemanthm_: and is that the case at the current time? | 14:43 |
| maishsk | is this being verified? | 14:43 |
| hemanthm_ | maishsk: signature verification? not yet, but I think the intent is to land it in M | 14:44 |
| hemanthm_ | sorry L, I mean | 14:44 |
| maishsk | hemanthm_: do you have a link for that work for me by any chance? | 14:44 |
| hemanthm_ | https://github.com/openstack/glance-specs/blob/master/specs/liberty/image-signing-and-verification-support.rst | 14:45 |
| hemanthm_ | maishsk ^ | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | maishsk: iirc nova does not boot the instance if the checksum of the image does not correspond with the one in glance metadata | 14:46 |
| maishsk | hemanthm_: Thank you | 14:46 |
| maishsk | jokke_: how can I verify that? | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | maishsk: but if you want heavier than that, yes the spec and functionality around that which is going to be released with liberty might be what you want | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | maishsk: go and check the nova code / with nova folks that that is actually the case. We provide the image and the metadata, we cannot take responsibility of how our consumer projects utilizes them | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Niall Bunting proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Image backwards compatibility for v2 https://review.openstack.org/219802 | 14:48 |
| maishsk | jokke_: Thanks will ping Nova people. | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | maishsk: yw | 14:49 |
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| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: was on a call, here noe | 15:02 |
| nikhil_k_ | now* | 15:02 |
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| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: hey there | 15:15 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: we probably should plan 1.0.1 rel of client ... you have anything urgent on your knowledge we need for that. Got confirmation from Thierry yesterday that the stable branch will be cut by end of the week from latest tag | 15:16 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: we are waiting on the back compat changes decision | 15:21 |
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| nikhil_k_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219802/ | 15:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Niall Bunting proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Remove raising HTTP Errors https://review.openstack.org/221846 | 15:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance: Corrected hyperlink in metadefs documentation https://review.openstack.org/217301 | 15:48 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: let's not wait for too long. Otherwise we need to backport all the bugfixes we've done | 15:48 |
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| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: I also brought the defaulting to v2 to the attention of the x-project meeting last night. | 16:00 |
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| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: ah cool, I think I missed that part | 16:12 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: anything interesting? | 16:12 |
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| nikhil_k_ | bunting: jokke_ flaper87 mclaren: btw, 1.x.x is support to a stable API for the py-*clients | 16:13 |
| nikhil_k_ | so, we are not going to be able to make changes to it (anytime soon or likely forever) | 16:13 |
| nikhil_k_ | basically, we need to decide on the fate right away without thinking of the possibility of 2.x.x | 16:14 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: Pretty much the only response I got was that Defaults tends to change every now and then and as long as it's documented it's fine. People who does not read release notes tends to get things broken | 16:15 |
| jokke_ | and I was specifically asking ref glanceclient when the deprecation periods were discussed | 16:16 |
| nikhil_k_ | ah cool | 16:16 |
| jokke_ | so I think that concludes finally this back and forth guessing what we should or should not have done around the 1.0.0 release ;) | 16:17 |
| jokke_ | that said I'm not pro of any change made in name of backwards compatibility between v1 and v2 that breaks our v2 backwards comaptibility between versions. I'm also not pro of waiting any such changes and miss the actual bug fixes for the cut of stable/liberty | 16:19 |
| jokke_ | "between client versions" even | 16:19 |
| bunting | nikhil_k_: So after this we can't change glanceclient? | 16:20 |
| jokke_ | bunting: oh we will ;) | 16:21 |
| nikhil_k_ | bunting: pretty much | 16:21 |
| jokke_ | well sanity in mind | 16:21 |
| nikhil_k_ | bunting: but we can handle it in a subtler way | 16:21 |
| nikhil_k_ | I think the key question is | 16:21 |
| nikhil_k_ | do we have any change that breaks the v2 API | 16:22 |
| bunting | I'm just thinking about the many features of glance which could be missing from the client | 16:22 |
| nikhil_k_ | by that I mean | 16:22 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: so iiuc defcore cares that our v2 stays stable and we keep supporting it till non-foreseeable-future, correct? | 16:22 |
| nikhil_k_ | glance v2 shell API that reflects the server API | 16:22 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: I think we need to think about it as users use cases | 16:23 |
| nikhil_k_ | but defcore is a good repr of that | 16:23 |
| nikhil_k_ | it's a gist of what users care/should care most | 16:23 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: well user expectations are always depending whom you ask from ... if you ask from dozen different users, you get about 13 different expecations | 16:24 |
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| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: what I was saying was that OpenStack community in some level of quorum is expecting us to stick with V2 images api for longish time | 16:25 |
| jokke_ | and expecting that API being stable | 16:25 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: yes, v2 servers API is our long term API | 16:27 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: but if you're saying that if we merge these backwards compatibility changes now we never get rid of them as we're expected to support those, then I'm really really strongly against merging them | 16:27 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: and shell + py-client API need to be v2 first (that's unbroken) | 16:27 |
| jokke_ | yes ... that makes sense as well | 16:27 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: yes, that's the case | 16:27 |
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| nikhil_k_ | so, I am okay with these changes being merged as long as we have tested they don't break v2 servers API | 16:28 |
| bunting | So what happens if we want to add something to the glance client such as checksums in the future? | 16:29 |
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| jokke_ | ok, then lets forget about them ... because that will mean that we need to stick with all the hax of them also if we manage to move v2 API on top of V3 some day | 16:30 |
| jokke_ | bunting: we add them without breaking the existing API and we're stuck with supporting them | 16:30 |
| nikhil_k_ | bunting: if we have a feature that changes the servers API then the client one needs to change however, our servers API can't be broken once we get a few standardized tests on it | 16:31 |
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| nikhil_k_ | it depends on the API that is expected to remain constant | 16:31 |
| nikhil_k_ | not all of the images api needs to remain constant | 16:31 |
| monsoon | hi guys! am I right, that cinder is still not a fully functional back-end for glance at the moment? | 16:32 |
| jokke_ | monsoon: as long as I know you're correct with that expectations :( | 16:32 |
| bunting | That also means we need to choose if we want to make metadef sub commands or not? | 16:35 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: I just don't want to be stuck for example that --is-public for v2 which is binary option making the visibility really messy being able to set it multiple ways (binary, non-binary) etc. as our server API does not support it anyways. Better cut that loose finally now then | 16:35 |
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| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: :/ | 16:36 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: I know it causes some short term inconvenience but I think it's the right thing to do long term. If we cannot do transition we should focus on long term | 16:38 |
| nikhil_k_ | Let's decide tomorrow after the meeting | 16:41 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: bunting ^ | 16:41 |
| nikhil_k_ | we can know more by then | 16:41 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: so we risk cutting the stable liberty from 1.0.0? | 16:41 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: no | 16:41 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: we need to let the rel-mgrs know about this plan | 16:41 |
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| bunting | nikhil_k_: Okay :) | 16:43 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: have you talked with Thierry then, as he was really concerned that they are late on the schedule and the fact that they had to postpone already until end of the week. They will not be happy if we expect them to postpone much futher | 16:43 |
| jokke_ | further even | 16:43 |
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| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: other option is that we request 1.0.1 and push 1.0.2 out if the consensus is to take that burden on us and we have time to include it in the stable/l? | 16:45 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: hmm, let's ask them for the available b/w on the extra rel | 16:46 |
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| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: I'm also trying to think if that warrants for patch release or if we need ffe and minor due those ... we are adding a lot of functionality by that change | 16:49 |
| jokke_ | process wise it does not make any difference | 16:49 |
| jokke_ | it's one and the same if we tag 1.0.1, 1.0.2 or 1.1.0 | 16:49 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: we don't have ffe for clients | 16:52 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: yes we do since we started to cut stables out of them | 16:53 |
| nikhil_k_ | but yes, tag wise I think it makes sense on 1.1.0 | 16:53 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: the libs follows same ff process between last feature tag and stable cut | 16:53 |
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| jokke_ | or should follow ;) | 16:53 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: the weird part is libs affect greater number of projects so it's very ad hoc by the rel-mgrs | 16:54 |
| nikhil_k_ | depends on whether things have converged or not | 16:55 |
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| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: yes, that is still under discussion to be fully finalized, but the expectations are that libs freezes earlier (like oslo does) with the final featurew release to provide as much leverage as possible for the other projects to test and stabilize | 16:56 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: _store is bit special child as it does not really affect anyone else than us, but with client we need to be careful | 16:56 |
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| nikhil_k_ | yep | 16:57 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: obviously one option is in future to fork python-glanceclient and just "abandon" the original if we need to do bigger changes :P | 16:57 |
| jokke_ | problem solved :P | 16:57 |
| jokke_ | we can call it python-glanceclient2 | 16:58 |
| jokke_ | joking apart time to go home | 16:59 |
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| bunting | at least if we were a new client we would not have to be backwards compatable ;) | 17:02 |
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| kragniz | jokke_: what, you mean openstackclient? | 17:09 |
| kragniz | :P | 17:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/glance: Update style for signature_utils class https://review.openstack.org/219731 | 17:50 |
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| stevemar | sigmavirus24: new glanceclient being cut soon? | 19:49 |
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| sigmavirus24 | I think jokke_ and nikhil_k_ would know more about that | 19:59 |
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| stevemar | nikhil_k_: ^ | 20:02 |
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| jokke_ | stevemar: we hopefully have glanceclient release cut this week | 20:19 |
| jokke_ | stevemar: now that depends how much we get arguing and delays from tomorrow's weekly meeting | 20:20 |
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| stevemar | jokke_: cool cool, i'll keep an eye out | 20:34 |
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| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: btw still around? | 21:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Kent Wang proposed openstack/glance: Allows OVA/OVF package upload to Glance https://review.openstack.org/214810 | 21:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kent Wang proposed openstack/glance: Allows OVA/OVF package upload to Glance https://review.openstack.org/214810 | 21:18 |
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| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: now yes | 22:17 |
| nikhil_k_ | what's up? | 22:17 |
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| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: sec | 22:30 |
| jokke_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218896/ ;) | 22:30 |
| stevelle | is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197388/ still appropriate to add to the glance-liberty-rc-reviews | 22:33 |
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| jokke_ | stevelle: unfortunately I think that boat sailed already :( | 22:36 |
| stevelle | that's what I suspected | 22:36 |
| stevelle | thx | 22:37 |
| jokke_ | I have at least totally missed that change, sorry | 22:37 |
| stevelle | it was marked WIP for a few months, needing me to find a few hours to work on it | 22:37 |
| stevelle | just adding tests | 22:37 |
| jokke_ | ah | 22:38 |
| stevelle | Since I have that complete at least, I can start a bp for the client support before tokyo I guess | 22:40 |
| nikhil_k_ | stevelle: interesting that even you are looking ahead about this. any particular reason? | 22:42 |
| stevelle | nikhil_k_: confused by your question | 22:43 |
| nikhil_k_ | stevelle: the additional filters support, I meant | 22:43 |
| nikhil_k_ | stevelle: oops, I mis-read you as other steve | 22:44 |
| nikhil_k_ | stevelle: nvm ,:P | 22:44 |
| stevelle | hah. :) | 22:44 |
| nikhil_k_ | stevelle: very very bad multi-tasking | 22:44 |
| nikhil_k_ | :) | 22:44 |
| nikhil_k_ | stevelle: as soon as liberty RCs are done. the freeze opens up and we can merge things | 22:45 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: +2A btw | 22:45 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: anything else? | 22:45 |
| jokke_ | nikhil_k_: that was the biggest one as I rebased it earlier today and it still passed the tests ;) | 22:47 |
| jokke_ | half sleep already, I just need secretary to keep track of all the things I need to remember ;) | 22:48 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: heh, go to bed! | 22:49 |
| jokke_ | I'm in here between the sheets already :) | 22:51 |
| jokke_ | "How come you call me work-a-holic" :o | 22:52 |
| nikhil_k_ | jokke_: :) | 22:52 |
| nikhil_k_ | ok, I need to step away for a bit. cya in a bit | 22:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/glance: Remove pointless tests comparing opts against list https://review.openstack.org/218896 | 23:56 |
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