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| jamielennox | can someone on the glance team just confirm that the following devstack change is correct: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193402/ | 04:42 |
| jamielennox | it's only about 10 lines and makes glance use a swift config file instead of the swift_store_user etc params | 04:42 |
| jamielennox | (it passes gate, and works for me) | 04:43 |
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| claudiub | hello folks. I have a question. Is it possible to pass an xml file as an image property? I need this info for a blueprint I'm working on. :) | 16:37 |
| sigmavirus24 | claudiub: maybe? | 16:39 |
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| nikhil_k | claudiub: possible | 16:40 |
| claudiub | sigmavirus24: unfortunately, I can't say "maybe" in a blueprint spec. :( | 16:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm looking | 16:40 |
| claudiub | nikhil_k: so, you can pass all the data from the xml file as a property value? Or you just pass the file location? | 16:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | But just be aware that if this is a spec to glance, you'll need to have a **really** good justification | 16:41 |
| claudiub | sigmavirus24: Sorry, it's a nova spec. I'm specing a feature called "shielded VMs" and an xml file with some Guardian key values are necessary in order for the VM to boot. | 16:42 |
| sigmavirus24 | that's awful | 16:43 |
| sigmavirus24 | There's no way to store those values as properties and generate teh XML? | 16:43 |
| sigmavirus24 | (Retrieve properties, generate XML from properties) | 16:43 |
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| claudiub | sigmavirus24: well, afaik, the whole xml is necessary. But that might be an interesting idea, but there's a good change the xml is not a small file, so to just pass everything as values, can be hell-ish. | 16:45 |
| sigmavirus24 | So our schema should allow you to store arbitrarily large documents: https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/9d4225289b3486d64fd396a684cba14ef762e765/glance/db/sqlalchemy/models.py#L159 just keep in mind that we don't tell SQLAlchemy to automatically convert unicode to whatever encoding the database happens to be in | 16:46 |
| sigmavirus24 | And I forget if we enforce a specific encoding | 16:46 |
| sigmavirus24 | That said, i still think it's a bad idea to store a large XML document in the image metadata | 16:47 |
| sigmavirus24 | But I think there's an image property quota which you might run into if the number of properties to set is too large | 16:47 |
| sigmavirus24 | so | 16:47 |
| sigmavirus24 | You may have to store the entire document anywa | 16:47 |
| sigmavirus24 | *anyway | 16:47 |
| sigmavirus24 | That XML file should be immutable, right claudiub ? | 16:48 |
| claudiub | sigmavirus24: yeah. it should. | 16:48 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikhil_k: artifacts should be ready for liberty, right? | 16:48 |
| sigmavirus24 | claudiub: you /could/ store the document as an artifact and have the image property point to the artifact | 16:49 |
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| sigmavirus24 | artifacts are immutable so the file should be fine there | 16:49 |
| claudiub | interesting. that might be nice. | 16:50 |
| claudiub | but will the artifacts be passed to the hypervisors? | 16:50 |
| claudiub | or will they have to request them? | 16:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | they'd have to request them | 16:51 |
| sigmavirus24 | my concern is whether nova gets to v2 of glance yet | 16:51 |
| sigmavirus24 | so in v1 the metadata is returned as headers on the image download | 16:51 |
| claudiub | i see. | 16:52 |
| sigmavirus24 | and throwing arbitrary XML into headers is wrong | 16:52 |
| claudiub | that's true. | 16:52 |
| claudiub | but currently, i don't see any other options, I'm afraid. | 16:52 |
| claudiub | artifacts would be nice though | 16:52 |
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| sigmavirus24 | So if Nova gets to using v2, it'll be making 2 requests (I think) from glance - image data download, image metadata information | 16:53 |
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| sigmavirus24 | In the latter it'll be returned as a value in JSON which should be fine | 16:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | With artifacts though, you'll have something that can be versioned and will be immutable | 16:53 |
| claudiub | well, only one version is necessary anyways, since there is no reason to change it in my scenario. | 16:54 |
| claudiub | anyways. i'll see how the glance v2 implementation in nova goes. | 16:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | claudiub: you should see if flwang could use your help | 16:55 |
| claudiub | but worst case scenario, the xml will be passed as img property. :( | 16:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | reviews help too | 16:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | claudiub: well if it is and nova's on v1, you're going to have some serious problems | 16:55 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Sounds like it is in your best interest to help out flwang with this from the nova side | 16:56 |
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| claudiub | sigmavirus24: yeah, it does. I will at least review his code then. | 16:56 |
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| claudiub | k, I shall stalk him on gerrit. :) | 16:57 |
| sigmavirus24 | :D | 16:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | Also feel free to ping me on the review when you submit your spec | 16:58 |
| claudiub | well, the spec is up, but it's WIP for now, I haven't included the part with the xml yet. | 16:59 |
| claudiub | the end result should be unhackable vms. :D | 16:59 |
| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: claudiub : srry had to go afk impromptu | 17:00 |
| nikhil_k | artifacts is kinda sorta ready | 17:00 |
| nikhil_k | but yes, ready for liberty | 17:00 |
| nikhil_k | what you could do is reserve a proectedt property | 17:00 |
| claudiub | nikhil_k: good to know. Do you have any reference for this? It'll be good to include in the spec. | 17:00 |
| nikhil_k | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/artifact-repository | 17:01 |
| nikhil_k | have to go for another meeting | 17:01 |
| nikhil_k | sorry | 17:01 |
| claudiub | nikhil_k: nice. thanks! | 17:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | claudiub: "unhackable vms" nothing is unhackable | 17:03 |
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| claudiub | sigmavirus24: well, those should be. :) | 17:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | claudiub: for about 2 weeks | 17:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | And then a nice little CVE will be discovered that ruins it all | 17:04 |
| claudiub | sigmavirus24: :)) | 17:04 |
| * sigmavirus24 is jaded is all | 17:04 | |
| claudiub | sigmavirus24: well, the idea with shielded vms is that everything is protected, even from the host itself. vm memory, disk can't be read, debbuger cannot be set, cpu info can't be accessed, etc. | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | That's a good idea | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | Ideas are usually good | 17:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | Implementations are not | 17:05 |
| claudiub | well, it's a step forward from what there is currently available. :) | 17:06 |
| sigmavirus24 | sure | 17:07 |
| sigmavirus24 | but "unhackable" is a stretch | 17:07 |
| claudiub | sigmavirus24: well, I'm curious about it myself. It's a fresh-out-of-the-oven feature, so I would expect some.. issues. :) | 17:08 |
| claudiub | sigmavirus24: but if you're curious about it, you could watch: https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Ignite/2015/BRK3457 | 17:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | will do claudiub | 17:09 |
| claudiub | sigmavirus24: anyways, thank you very much about the info and advice. :) | 17:09 |
| claudiub | sigmavirus24: unfortunately, I have to run. :D | 17:10 |
| claudiub | bye | 17:10 |
| sigmavirus24 | later claudiub | 17:11 |
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| nikhil_k | sigmavirus24: thanks for nice suggestions | 17:27 |
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| nikhil_k | I guess claudiub disappaeared | 17:27 |
| nikhil_k | checking in os-nova | 17:27 |
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| sigmavirus24 | nikhil_k: the spec link is in searchlight | 18:07 |
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| skoar | nikhil_k : hi | 21:43 |
| skoar | i was exploring the quota options exposed via glance.conf and saw that with user_storage_quota we impose a restriction on instance snapshot space but is there a conf parameter which will say how many instance snapshot am i allowed to create ? | 21:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brad Pokorny proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Add v2 support for the marker attribute https://review.openstack.org/191961 | 22:04 |
| vilobhmm | skoar : looks like a feature to me…not sure what nikhil_k thinks about it | 22:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | skoar: there is no such quota, no | 22:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tomoki Sekiyama proposed openstack/glance_store: Implement get, add and delete for cinder store https://review.openstack.org/166414 | 22:15 |
| vilobhmm | sigmavirus24 : do we need to file a blueprint to make it happen ? | 22:17 |
| skoar | sigmavirus: thanks for the info | 22:17 |
| sigmavirus24 | vilobhmm: to start the conversation, yes. | 22:18 |
| vilobhmm | because otherwise how do we enforce instance snapshot quota ? | 22:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | vilobhmm: no promises that it will be accepted though | 22:18 |
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| vilobhmm | user_storage_quota just promises to check for storage allocated for the instance snapshot but many providers or operators might want to impose quota per tenant/user | 22:19 |
| vilobhmm | sigmavirus24 : ^^ | 22:19 |
| vilobhmm | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/glance-basic-quotas | 22:20 |
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| vilobhmm | talks about it but doesn't seem like its implemented IMHO | 22:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | vilobhmm: can you and/or skoar make it to the weekly meeting next week? | 22:21 |
| harlowja | harshs ^ | 22:23 |
| harlowja | vilobhmm harshs connect :-P | 22:23 |
| harlowja | <like a robot> | 22:23 |
| vilobhmm | harlowja : :P | 22:25 |
| vilobhmm | thanks | 22:25 |
| vilobhmm | sigmavirus24 : sure… | 22:25 |
| vilobhmm | i might not be able to make it but will ask harshs or skoar to be present…filling blueprint now | 22:26 |
| harshs | vilobhmm: i will be attending the meeting. will sync with you offline | 22:26 |
| harshs | harlowja: thanks :) | 22:27 |
| harlowja | :) | 22:27 |
| vilobhmm | harshs : thanks :) | 22:27 |
| harlowja | i know u guys know each other :-P | 22:27 |
| * harlowja just knows these things, lol | 22:27 | |
| harlowja | an interesting question, how do others handle using glance without those kind of quotas? | 22:30 |
| * harlowja thought the rackspace cloud had a snapshot quota :-/ | 22:30 | |
| harlowja | or something | 22:30 |
| vilobhmm | sigmavirus24 : filed one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/glance-quota-enhancements | 22:31 |
| vilobhmm | harshs, skoar, harlowja : ^^ | 22:31 |
| harlowja | k | 22:31 |
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| sigmavirus24 | thanks vilobhmm | 22:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | harlowja: I'm not sure tbh | 22:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | harlowja: nikhil_k knows the answer to that almost certainly | 22:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | nikhil_k: works at Rackspace on their cloud ;) | 22:40 |
| harlowja | right | 22:42 |
| harlowja | seems like its unlimited | 22:42 |
| harlowja | so maybe thats why :-P | 22:42 |
| harlowja | storage is cheap after all, and snapshots don't do anything but make $$ (since u boot instances from them) | 22:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Brianna Poulos proposed openstack/glance-specs: Encrypted and Authenticated Image Support https://review.openstack.org/177948 | 22:42 |
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