| nikhil_k | flwang1: has he commented? | 00:00 |
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| nikhil_k | guys really great to see we are working hard on stabilizing Kilo; much appreciate all the help! | 00:00 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: i'm talking about this changed he introduced https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L573 | 00:01 |
| flwang1 | it will skip the 'deleted' filter param and display the deleted images | 00:02 |
| flwang1 | but I don't think it's following the initial design of v1 to list deleted images | 00:02 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: yes, changes-since is meant for showing deleted stuff that's old and like warehousing types | 00:03 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: really? | 00:03 |
| flwang1 | is it a common understanding? | 00:03 |
| * flaper87 has to catch a plane! ttyl | 00:04 | |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: can you be more explicity about that design? You don't have to repeat it if you've said it in the conversation with Rosmaita over on the review | 00:04 |
| nikhil_k | ciao flaper87 | 00:04 |
| flwang1 | ttyl, flaper87 | 00:04 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: Not sure if it's a common understanding but here's something that might help | 00:04 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: IMHO, changes-since is most like a query condition to show those images changed from a specific time point | 00:04 |
| flwang1 | but it's not related to deleted | 00:05 |
| nikhil_k | Nova also has this changes-since stuff support (last I remember) | 00:05 |
| flwang1 | for image or instance? | 00:05 |
| nikhil_k | So, this was initially desinged for stuff that customers wanted to keep for years say 5-7 years old stuff | 00:05 |
| nikhil_k | and then pull down the context (metadata) info on instance incl. image meta | 00:06 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: my point is do we still need the 'deleted' parameter associated with 'changes-since' to show the deleted images | 00:06 |
| nikhil_k | But Nova DB can't scale that well for that long period of data so, may be we need to get rid of it at some point | 00:06 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: We need either changes-since or deleted | 00:07 |
| nikhil_k | for showing deleted stuff | 00:07 |
| flwang1 | see https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/registry/api/v1/images.py#L247 | 00:07 |
| flwang1 | for now, in v1, we're messing the query for deleted images | 00:08 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: yes, the bad thing is v1 was supposed to be internal only API | 00:09 |
| nikhil_k | but we moved away from that idea at some point and this context got lost | 00:09 |
| flwang1 | at https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/registry/api/v1/images.py#L247, glance is expecting 'deleted' as param to show deleted images, but at https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L573 it will only check if there is the 'changes-since' param for showing the deleted images | 00:09 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: i see | 00:09 |
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| flwang1 | so what's your opinion for this? | 00:11 |
| jlk | Is there an API call I can make to discover the location of an image, whether it's a file:/// location or a http location? | 00:11 |
| jlk | I see there is policy for it, but not sure what APi call that policy might act upon | 00:11 |
| flwang1 | jlk: what did you mean 'discover the location of an image'? | 00:12 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: let's chat after talking to jlk . My opinion is a little skewed we may need some consultation with our prod managers on what they want | 00:12 |
| jlk | flwang1: we're designing a check, to look at glance for all the images that should be in the glance store of file:/// and then checking the store itself for those files | 00:12 |
| jlk | we have some images that are created using --location, so glance fetches them from http(s) each time | 00:13 |
| jlk | we dont' want to alert on those missing from the store, obviously | 00:13 |
| jlk | I'm trying to avoid digging through the database directly, thus using the API, but I can't seem to make the API give me the image location data | 00:13 |
| flwang1 | jlk: ah, you can just go through the locations attr of image | 00:14 |
| jlk | what API call gets me the attrs? | 00:14 |
| flwang1 | 'locations' will include all the locations of the image | 00:14 |
| flwang1 | i can't remember if v1 support that | 00:14 |
| flwang1 | but you can see that with v2/images for sure | 00:15 |
| flwang1 | jlk: and you need to add a config 'show_multiple_locations = True' in your glance-api.conf | 00:16 |
| nikhil_k | yes, please check images schema for locations property | 00:16 |
| flwang1 | hope it's helpful | 00:16 |
| jlk | checking | 00:16 |
| jlk | if show_multiple_locations isn't true, then it won't show any locations? | 00:17 |
| flwang1 | not really | 00:17 |
| jlk | "(BoolOpt) Whether to include the backend image locations in image properties." ah... | 00:18 |
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| flwang1 | nikhil_k: re 'My opinion is a little skewed we may need some consultation with our prod managers on what they want', did you mean discuss with rosmaita? | 00:22 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: yes. What did you want to have opinion on though specifically? I kinda presumed that it would be on something related to deleting changes-since filter? | 00:23 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: But we need it to support Nova image list call even for v2.. | 00:23 |
| jlk | thanks all, setting that gave me back locations, which we can work with. | 00:23 |
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| nikhil_k | cool, have a nice on jlk | 00:24 |
| nikhil_k | one* | 00:24 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: And the links you showed me, the sql filter applies changes-since in both places v1/images as well as sql/api | 00:24 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: v2 is another topic based on the discussion rosmaita and me | 00:24 |
| nikhil_k | ok | 00:25 |
| flwang1 | i will draft a spec for v2 | 00:25 |
| nikhil_k | appreciate it | 00:25 |
| nikhil_k | the thing is even with admin, it's expecting that filter | 00:25 |
| nikhil_k | admin context | 00:25 |
| nikhil_k | https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/registry/api/v1/images.py#L252 | 00:25 |
| nikhil_k | and on line 254 | 00:25 |
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| flwang1 | nikhil_k: for v2, if you give it the changes-since param, you will get an 400 error, The "changes-since" filter is no longer available on v2. | 00:26 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: yep | 00:27 |
| flwang1 | so that's my question | 00:27 |
| flwang1 | obviously, now there are some messing in the code | 00:27 |
| flwang1 | we don't support 'deleted' param for now, it has been removed by accidentally. and at https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/registry/api/v1/images.py#L252, we're still trying to access it | 00:28 |
| flwang1 | and in the db api, we're bypassing it | 00:28 |
| flwang1 | so that's what i'm trying to address | 00:28 |
| flwang1 | we need a clean/consistent way to display the deleted images | 00:29 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: umm, removed ? I may have missed that patch! | 00:30 |
| nikhil_k | the filters on v1/images and sql/api seem to support it | 00:30 |
| flwang1 | removed for what? | 00:32 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: i need to grab some food, brb | 00:33 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: ok, I think we are not on the same page | 00:34 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: I will be back in a couple hours or so | 00:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed openstack/glance: v1 API should be in SUPPORTED status https://review.openstack.org/173646 | 01:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed openstack/glance: Fix wrong docstring by copy-paste https://review.openstack.org/173649 | 02:07 |
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| flwang1 | rosmaita: around? | 02:25 |
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| nikhil_k | flwang1: back | 03:28 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: cool ;) | 03:29 |
| flwang1 | https://review.openstack.org/173646 | 03:29 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: so a couple of questions to understand you correctly | 03:29 |
| flwang1 | https://review.openstack.org/173649 | 03:29 |
| nikhil_k | ok | 03:29 |
| flwang1 | https://review.openstack.org/173663 | 03:29 |
| flwang1 | haha | 03:29 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: sure, listen... | 03:29 |
| nikhil_k | nice patches | 03:31 |
| nikhil_k | thanks | 03:31 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: about changes-since | 03:31 |
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| nikhil_k | flwang1: so the deleted filter, it should work on image-list call with role as product admin | 03:31 |
| nikhil_k | does that not work for you? | 03:32 |
| nikhil_k | also, changes-since should work irrespective of deleted set in the filter or not | 03:32 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: no | 03:32 |
| nikhil_k | and admin or not | 03:32 |
| flwang1 | 1. if you're using cli | 03:32 |
| flwang1 | you will the --deleted status is not supported | 03:33 |
| flwang1 | 2. if you're using rest api directly, you will see the 'deleted' will be skipped because https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/api/v1/__init__.py#L16 | 03:34 |
| flwang1 | 3. if you're using rest api, you can always get the deleted images with changes-since param | 03:35 |
| flwang1 | 4. if you're using cli, you can't use changes-since, because it's not supported by our client | 03:35 |
| flwang1 | so confusing, right? :) | 03:35 |
| nikhil_k | umm, I get there was some force_show_deleted param somewhere. checking one sec | 03:35 |
| nikhil_k | so that's 5th one for you :P ;) | 03:36 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: just confirm, did you mean the word 'changes-since' has the meaning like the object has been deleted/removed? | 03:39 |
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| nikhil_k | flwang1: I think that's the original idea. But not sure if it's being used outside of it. It really is to see the instance/image(s) that have been changed using that 'since' param irrespective of the status | 03:44 |
| nikhil_k | And as people will mostly likely use other filters to see the active resource | 03:44 |
| nikhil_k | changes-since is very ineffective | 03:45 |
| flwang1 | yep, but changes is not only limited to 'deleted', right? | 03:45 |
| flwang1 | and actually, if you look the code, you will see it just compare the updated_at filed | 03:46 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: agree, it's to see the changes on a resource irrespective on the state | 03:47 |
| nikhil_k | but | 03:47 |
| flwang1 | i just want to figure out a consistent way to support the feature | 03:47 |
| nikhil_k | it is informally encouraged to use on deleted | 03:47 |
| flwang1 | ok | 03:47 |
| flwang1 | if that's the case, I think v1 'works' fine, and we just need some cleanup work for the 'deleted' param | 03:48 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: so, I have to agree on the deleted filter. It's not very consistent and super confusing. Seems like we are allowing deleted resources to be queried from different vectors but they are all over the place.. | 03:48 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: exactly | 03:49 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: so, the sql query | 03:49 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: so how about we still don't support the 'deleted' param, just like we're doing right now | 03:49 |
| flwang1 | and just clean up the code to remove what ever trying to query the 'deleted' | 03:50 |
| flwang1 | i mean the 'deleted' param | 03:51 |
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| nikhil_k | flwang1: yes, but please let me check for corener cases | 03:52 |
| flwang1 | and meanwhile, we need to fix our glance client to support the 'changes-since' param | 03:52 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: sure | 03:52 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: well, I think there is a reason for not exposing changes-since on the client | 03:52 |
| nikhil_k | as they want people to strongly discourage from using it | 03:52 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: wow | 03:52 |
| nikhil_k | it was something that prolly rackspace wanted a couple years back on the feature parity with older cloud (not openstack) | 03:53 |
| nikhil_k | and times were different then | 03:53 |
| flwang1 | long story, right? | 03:53 |
| nikhil_k | and features were less and people developing had smaller context to deal with and... so on :) | 03:54 |
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| nikhil_k | yes, long story :D | 03:54 |
| flwang1 | so, what's your opinion for now? | 03:55 |
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| nikhil_k | flwang1: I'm trying to determine how are people dealing with this use case. Looks like the deleted param was never supported. So, if you want to use changes-since for getting that list, it would be okay | 03:57 |
| nikhil_k | We are looking to extend the changes-since support for v2 as Nova needs it anyways | 03:57 |
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| nikhil_k | Does that work? | 03:58 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: so you mean for v1, keep it as what it's, for now, and for v2, we will continue to support the changes-since, right? | 03:59 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: right. And if you need support for it in client we should go ahead on that | 03:59 |
| flwang1 | that's my question. if we want to continue it in v2, then should we support it in glance client v1? | 04:00 |
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| nikhil_k | flwang1: oh man, you brought up a really good point here. I've never bothered to look at this side of code because policy has disallowed listing on deleted images at work :) | 04:04 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: so yes, let's start supporting this in client once v2 has support for it | 04:04 |
| nikhil_k | but for v1 we can support it now too | 04:04 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: sorry, I may be saying too many things and do not intend to confuse you. The whole deal seems rather messy as you said earlier. | 04:05 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: ok, got, so the summary will be, don't touch anything for v1, but add a param support for changes-since | 04:05 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: yes! | 04:05 |
| flwang1 | for v2, i will submit a spec to draft what we should do | 04:06 |
| flwang1 | cool, awesome | 04:06 |
| nikhil_k | .swesome. | 04:06 |
| nikhil_k | .awesome. | 04:06 |
| flwang1 | pls have review above tiny patches, all of them are very small :) | 04:07 |
| nikhil_k | lol swesome is on urban dictionary | 04:07 |
| flwang1 | and this one https://review.openstack.org/172395 | 04:07 |
| nikhil_k | sure | 04:07 |
| flwang1 | really? cool | 04:07 |
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| nikhil_k | flwang1: +2ed most of them | 04:16 |
| flwang1 | nikhil_k: yep, i saw that, thank you so much, man | 04:17 |
| nikhil_k | flwang1: NP :) Gunna be afk. Until tomorrow. Ciao | 04:17 |
| flwang1 | ttyl | 04:17 |
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| ajayaa | Hi guys. I am seeing a strange behaviour while listing images in v2 vs v1 api. | 12:45 |
| ajayaa | v2 api shows me images where I am not owner. | 12:45 |
| ajayaa | whereas v1 does not show such images. | 12:45 |
| ajayaa | kragniz ^^ | 12:46 |
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| sigmavirus24_awa | ajayaa: uh | 14:05 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | ajayaa: what revision/commit are you testing against? | 14:05 |
| ajayaa | sigmavirus24_awa, master, commit number 6dc5477a12b9b904332ac6fe7932abbc7a0275a7 | 14:06 |
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| mclaren | sigmavirus24: ping | 14:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | mclaren: yes? | 14:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed openstack/glance: Fix wrong docstring by copy-paste https://review.openstack.org/173649 | 22:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Add parameter 'changes-since' for image-list of v1 https://review.openstack.org/173738 | 23:35 |
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| cpallares | flwang: o/ | 23:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed openstack/glance: Fix image owner can't be changed issue in v2 https://review.openstack.org/154695 | 23:56 |
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