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openstackgerrithzrandd proposed openstack/glance: Typos fixed in the comments  https://review.openstack.org/15112902:33
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/glance: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14676506:02
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openstackgerritJun Hong Li proposed openstack/glance_store: Throw NotFound exception when template is gone  https://review.openstack.org/15316906:58
openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Replace mox in tests with requests-mock  https://review.openstack.org/14198207:09
openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Stub authentication requests rather than plugins  https://review.openstack.org/14199307:09
openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Remove keystoneclient mocks  https://review.openstack.org/14199207:09
openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Don't accept *args for client  https://review.openstack.org/14169907:09
openstackgerritAbhishek Kekane proposed openstack/glance: Eventlet green threads not released back to pool  https://review.openstack.org/13083907:10
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openstackgerritKamil Rykowski proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Glance image delete output  https://review.openstack.org/14098807:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/glance: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/15342507:59
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flwangnikhil_k: ping09:48
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openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: Declarative definitions of type-specific Artifact properties  https://review.openstack.org/11917410:37
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: SemVer utility to store SemVer-compatible object versions in DB  https://review.openstack.org/10767610:37
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: Artifacts Repository - DB  https://review.openstack.org/11599810:37
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openstackgerritInessa Vasilevskaya proposed openstack/glance: Artifacts plugin loader  https://review.openstack.org/13430010:44
openstackgerritInessa Vasilevskaya proposed openstack/glance: A mixin for jsonpatch requests validation  https://review.openstack.org/14858810:44
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: Artifacts Domain  https://review.openstack.org/13289810:46
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openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: Artifacts Domain  https://review.openstack.org/13289811:01
openstackgerritMike Fedosin proposed openstack/glance: Artifacts API  https://review.openstack.org/13662911:02
openstackgerritAbhishek Kekane proposed openstack/glance-specs: Reload configuration files on SIGHUP signal  https://review.openstack.org/15399111:11
openstackgerritAbhishek Kekane proposed openstack/glance-specs: Reload configuration files on SIGHUP signal  https://review.openstack.org/12723811:25
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openstackgerritMichal Dulko proposed openstack/python-glanceclient: Unit tests covering missing username or password  https://review.openstack.org/11689413:39
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openstackgerritAbhishek Kekane proposed openstack/glance: Eventlet green threads not released back to pool  https://review.openstack.org/13083914:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/glance: Clarified doc of public_endpoint config option  https://review.openstack.org/15382415:32
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openstackgerritKamil Rykowski proposed openstack/glance: Remove redundant parentheses in conditional statements  https://review.openstack.org/15410416:21
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openstackgerritLouis Taylor proposed openstack/glance: Move to graduated oslo.log module  https://review.openstack.org/14934416:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/glance: Add latest swift options in glance-cache.conf  https://review.openstack.org/11318218:27
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nikhil_ksabari: hey, I think your change needs a small change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141665/1218:54
nikhil_kWe can try to release this with store (sometime this week)18:55
nikhil_ksabari: please let me know if you need more info! thanks.18:55
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bitbltif I set the default policy for glance to role:admin, no one else should be able to see anything, right?19:02
bitbltthat doesn't have the admin role anyway19:02
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openstackgerritLouis Taylor proposed openstack/glance: Move to graduated oslo.log module  https://review.openstack.org/14934419:05
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openstackgerritInessa Vasilevskaya proposed openstack/glance: Artifacts API  https://review.openstack.org/13662919:13
openstackgerritInessa Vasilevskaya proposed openstack/glance: Artifacts Domain  https://review.openstack.org/13289819:13
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sabarinikhil_k: just about to push a patch to fix it.19:47
nikhil_ksabari: NICE!19:48
nikhil_kthanks19:48
sabarinp, thanks!19:49
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kragniznikhil_k: do you think it's okay for me to do an oslo-incubator sync in the oslo_log patch?19:52
kragnizadd a new patch to sync and make the oslo_log patch depend on it19:53
kragnizs/add/or add/19:53
nikhil_kkragniz: sg19:55
kragniznikhil_k: the first or the second? :P19:56
nikhil_kI mean,19:56
nikhil_knew patch with dependency19:56
nikhil_kwoah, that's a lot of files19:56
kragnizikr19:57
nikhil_kI recommend asking someone to take a look as soon as you propose19:57
kragniztwo patches would probably be best at this point19:57
nikhil_kye19:57
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openstackgerritInessa Vasilevskaya proposed openstack/glance: Artifacts API  https://review.openstack.org/13662920:16
openstackgerritInessa Vasilevskaya proposed openstack/glance: Artifacts Domain  https://review.openstack.org/13289820:16
openstackgerritSabari proposed openstack/glance_store: Check VMware session before uploading image  https://review.openstack.org/14166520:16
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flwang1nikhil_k: still around?20:31
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openstackgerritWayne Okuma proposed openstack/glance: The metadef tags create api does not match blue-print  https://review.openstack.org/15422920:43
flwangnikhil_k: i proposed a blueprint about image hidden20:46
flwangand i'd like to get some comments from you20:46
flwangin summary, we are updating our images weekly and we can't delete the old images since there are some instance depend on those20:46
flwangand we rename the old ones20:46
flwangand we are marking the old ones as private since there are too many images listing20:46
flwanghowever, this will case nova rebuild failed, since nova can't access those images marked as private20:46
flwangso, we have to hacking horizon a little bit to hide those old images but still keeping them as public20:46
flwangthis trigger me try to resolve this issue from the glance perspective20:46
flwanghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/108574/20:46
nikhil_kflwang: was getting some food. lemme see20:49
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nikhil_kflwang: I get you, and am familiar with this use case.20:51
nikhil_kflwang: so, lemme talk to some people and see what the right approach this problem looks like. Currently, I've not strong opinions either way but would like to do a bit more of use-case research.20:52
flwang1nikhil_k: cool20:55
flwang1IIRC, you mentioned RAX is hacking something in horizon to hide those images, is it?20:55
nikhil_kflwang1: so, our public cloud does not use horizon20:55
nikhil_kand we use a specilized filter to hide these20:56
flwang1nikhil_k: oh, sorry, i mean20:56
flwang1you guys did something to hide those images on GUI20:56
nikhil_kyeah, we've some rackspace specific filters20:56
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flwang1nikhil_k: so do you think it's worthy to do that in Glance?20:56
nikhil_kflwang1: yes, I think we've some strong use cases for this20:57
flwang1we can leverage properties or tag to mark those hidden images instead of adding a new attribute for image in database20:57
nikhil_kflwang1: agree (At the moment)20:57
flwang1to avoid any migration issues20:57
flwang1rosmaita: any luck you around?20:58
nikhil_khe may be too busy20:58
nikhil_kflwang1: how about - let's start a email thread with him ?20:59
flwang1nikhil_k: sure, I can drop a mail to the mail list and cc him, ok?20:59
* nikhil_k can not get his sentences right today20:59
nikhil_kflwang1: sure20:59
flwang1nikhil_k: cool21:00
nikhil_kthat may get filtered through the tags though :)21:00
flwang1nikhil_k: lol21:00
nikhil_kanyways, let's see21:00
flwang1nikhil_k: just FYI, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2015-February/006153.html21:00
flwang1it's a mail thread in the operations mail list, very valuable info from the op views21:01
nikhil_kcool21:01
nikhil_kmight just want to forward that to him :)21:01
flwang1cool, will do21:01
nikhil_kor link it in the spec and we can review it later21:01
nikhil_kflwang1: although, we may not be able to review that spec in next week or so21:02
flwang1nikhil_k: no problem21:02
flwang1nikhil_k: no worries, I will submit a new patch set based on my recent toughts21:02
nikhil_kThanks!21:02
flwang1nikhil_k: thank you, body21:02
flwang1nikhil_k: and I'm thinking another feature about  image update21:04
flwang1nikhil_k: you know, we have to always update images to make sure they include the recent security patches21:05
flwang1but it's not a interesting job21:05
nikhil_k:)21:06
flwang1so do you think it's a good idea to leverage async task to get an auto update engine in glance? or it's just should be done by operator/admin manually?21:06
nikhil_kflwang1: so, as far as Glance is concerned - the images are immutable after they go into active21:07
flwang1nikhil_k: yep, i know21:07
flwang1nikhil_k: just think aloud21:08
nikhil_kso, this is a difficult problem21:08
flwang1nikhil_k: yep, now i'm using a script + cron job to do that21:08
nikhil_k:)21:08
nikhil_kflwang1: so, task is a very user centric approach21:09
nikhil_kdo you think it would be wise for operator to levrage this?21:09
nikhil_kotoh, I think this functional API approach is very operator centric21:10
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flwang1nikhil_k: yep, i can see your point.21:10
nikhil_kflwang1: so, do you have to do something specific to block these images?21:10
flwang1nikhil_k: i'm working on the image convert spec, as long as it merged, we can leverage task to import images21:11
nikhil_kok21:11
nikhil_kany blockers for that yet?21:11
flwang1nikhil_k: yep, since there is no rootwrap in glance21:12
flwang1so it's hard to call qemu-img to convert image on server21:12
nikhil_khm21:12
kragnizflwang1: fwiw, I think adding a hidden image property to glance makes a lot of sense21:13
kragnizI wanted to do that originally, but was told community images was the One True Way(tm) for that use case21:13
flwang1kragniz: i don't think community images can resolve this issue21:14
flwang1kragniz: did you see my above messages?21:14
kragnizprobably not all of them21:14
flwang1https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108574/ you can refer this though it's not up-to-date21:14
kragnizlet me read through backlog21:14
flwang1nikhil_k: you got i said, right? for the root wrap21:16
nikhil_kflwang1: ok yes, I do not know of a good way to include that in glance, sorry :/21:16
flwang1nikhil_k: yep, me too, that's why I'm stuck21:17
flwang1those introduce root wrap in glance is not a 2mins work21:17
rosmaitaflwang1: do you know that if you make the owner null, you can make an image private so no one can see it, but anyone can boot from it if they know the UUID21:17
nikhil_kflwang1: I guess, we can add specific sub-set (optional) scripts that use it and that way Glance does not have to add to requirements21:17
flwang1s/those/since21:17
flwang1rosmaita: yep, i know that, but does it a good way from the admin/operator PoV21:19
flwang1I'm not really sure if they will like that :)21:19
flwang1rosmaita: welcome join the chat :D21:19
flwang1rosmaita: and the problem is21:20
flwang1it maybe hard to maintain them21:21
flwang1rosmaita: and owner can not be changed in v221:24
rosmaitaflwang1: really?21:24
flwang1if i remember correct ;)21:24
rosmaitathat would seem to be a bug, admin should be able to change owner21:25
* flwang1 is confirming...21:25
flwang1http://paste.openstack.org/show/170216/21:25
rosmaitayou're using admin credentials there?21:26
flwang1rosmaita: yep21:26
rosmaitawow21:27
kragnizis that by design?21:28
flwang1rosmaita: btw, i'm using stable/icehouse21:28
rosmaitai don't think that changed recently, but who knows21:28
flwang1rosmaita: ok, I will open a bug to dig into it21:29
flwang1rosmaita:  let's back to the original problem21:29
rosmaitaflwang1: mention that v2 is incompatible with v1 for owner change21:29
flwang1rosmaita: so you think it's not necessary to support image hidden for glance image-list, is it?21:29
flwang1rosmaita: ok, will do21:30
rosmaitaso you want to keep images public so anyone can use them, but you don't want them to show up in anyone's image list?21:30
flwang1rosmaita: yep21:31
rosmaitaso if they become community, anyone can use them21:31
rosmaitado you object to people being able to add these to their image list if they want to?21:32
flwang1rosmaita: the problem is21:32
flwang1the image update maybe weekly/daily, so there are lot of old images21:33
flwang1they will be noisy21:33
flwang1but we still need them for rebuild, evacuate, etc21:33
rosmaitai don't see how hidden helps that21:33
rosmaitayou still have to maintain the image, either switch it to hidden or switch it to community21:34
flwang1rosmaita: from the horizon view21:34
rosmaitacan you explain?21:34
flwang1it can provide a better experience for end user, not admin21:34
rosmaitahow better for end user?21:35
flwang1for example, currently, we have to maintain 10+ public images21:35
flwang1and we updated them weekly21:35
flwang1so after 1 year, there are a lot of images in public status, right?21:35
flwang1and the tenant user will see them from horizon, if we don't mark old ones as private21:36
flwang1as nikhil_k said, RAX don't have the problem since you have your owner GUI21:36
rosmaitawhy won't community work for this, though21:36
flwang1community image also need to be updated, right?21:37
rosmaitaby admin, you mean?21:37
flwang1yep21:37
rosmaitabut admin will have to update to make image hidden, too, right?21:38
flwang1rosmaita: yep21:38
rosmaitaso if you make them community, a customer could discover them, but they won't be displayed in the image list by default21:38
flwang1the problem is not to reduce the maintenance workload, we want to give user a better view when list images21:39
rosmaitasure ... we discussed this at mid-cycle juno summit, general consensus was that community does exactly what you want21:40
flwang1rosmaita: ok, how it works with is_public attribute?21:40
rosmaitagood question, i don't remember21:41
kragnizflwang1: it replaces it with a visibility attribute21:41
rosmaitakragniz: for v1, though21:42
kragnizI thought we were going with is_public is false for any value of visibility other than public21:43
flwang1kragniz: did you mean current is_public attribute will be changed from bool to string(private, public, community)?21:43
rosmaitagood memory21:43
rosmaitafl21:43
kragnizI may be mistaken about that, though21:43
rosmaitaflwang1: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Glance-v2-community-image-visibility-design#Impact_on_v121:43
rosmaitawill be hidden!21:43
kragnizsorry, large lag in my ssh connection here21:44
rosmaitaflwang1: will be boolean in v1 response21:44
flwang1rosmaita: ok, I will go through the spec21:45
rosmaitaflwang1: cool21:46
rosmaitai am not necessarily opposed to hidden images21:46
rosmaitabut it seems like community accomplishes the same thing with more flexibility21:46
rosmaitawe can discuss more later21:47
flwang1rosmaita: yep, i can see the point21:47
flwang1rosmaita: but seems we can't use it until L :)21:47
rosmaitaflwang1: i think kragniz is going to implement for K21:48
kragnizI need to get my act in gear!21:49
flwang1rosmaita: got it, thanks, man21:55
flwang1kragniz: is it on track? :)21:55
flwang1do you need any help?21:55
rosmaitaflwang1: kragniz may need some help21:55
rosmaitaspec is still under review (i think)21:56
kragnizflwang1: help on getting the spec done would be lovely21:56
kragnizI've kind of been putting it off over the last few weeks21:56
flwang1kragniz: ah, then you should buy a beer for rosmaita and nikhil_k firstly21:57
flwang1that's the easy I know21:57
flwang1easy way i mean ;)21:57
kragnizhehe21:57
kragnizflwang1: I'll ammend the spec based on the feedback I've got lately, then you should have a look over to see if it all makes sense for you21:58
flwang1kragniz: sounds good :)21:59
rosmaitaflwang1: it would be good if you could add the "hidden" use case to make sure it's really addressed21:59
kragnizyes, I think I brushed over that22:00
flwang1rosmaita: good point, I will add it22:00
rosmaitacool22:00
flwang1rosmaita: thank you for comments and congrats for your new title :)22:03
rosmaitaty22:05
wayne_nikhil?22:12
nikhil_kwayne_: ?22:13
wayne_i have a new defect which i need your input on: https://review.openstack.org/15422922:13
wayne_Would this change be allowed?22:14
nikhil_kwayne_: hmm, that does not look backward compatible22:16
wayne_it's not22:16
wayne_but, i don't think anyone is currently using the api22:17
wayne_the python-glanceclient uses it, but, has not been approved yet.22:19
nikhil_khmm, that's a bummer22:21
wayne_yes22:21
wayne_if we need to make the api change i think it would have to be now22:22
wayne_or we would have to change the blue-print22:22
nikhil_kwayne_: yes, I think we need to amend the BP22:23
nikhil_kwayne_: is that an issue?22:23
wayne_The difference was noticed by Travis in the python-glanceclient code22:23
nikhil_kright22:24
nikhil_kwayne_: I prefer the PUT approach22:24
nikhil_kLet's see if we're blocked by any formal rules here22:24
wayne_I think there was an issue with me using PUT instead of POST for the create-tags22:25
nikhil_kright22:25
nikhil_kwayne_: ok, I can confirm this tomorrow22:25
wayne_for create-tag (singular) we use POST for the /metadefs/namespaces/{namespace}/tags/ URI22:26
wayne_ok22:26
wayne_thank you22:27
nikhil_knp22:27
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