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| openstackgerrit | Pengju Jiao proposed openstack/freezer master: Correct the use of swift client https://review.openstack.org/463087 | 03:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pengju Jiao proposed openstack/freezer master: Correct the use of swift client https://review.openstack.org/463087 | 03:35 |
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| jiaopengju | Hi, anyone knows that where the specs documentation should be submit? freezer-specs or freezer/specs ? | 07:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Pengju Jiao proposed openstack/freezer-specs master: Increase s3 driver support https://review.openstack.org/469791 | 07:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Pengju Jiao proposed openstack/freezer-specs master: Increase s3 driver support https://review.openstack.org/469791 | 07:40 |
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| vnogin | new setuptools broke almost all upstream gating https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1694904 | 10:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1694904 in devstack "pip_install failed with 'ImportError: No module named six'" [Undecided,New] | 10:53 |
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| haad1 | hi | 12:00 |
| haad1 | if anyone is interested I have ansible freezer roles I can make public | 12:01 |
| haad1 | for freezer deployment | 12:01 |
| haad1 | r | 12:02 |
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| szaher | haad1: Hi | 13:48 |
| szaher | I will be opening a repo for freezer-ansible role | 13:48 |
| szaher | Guys, we will have freezer meeting in 10 minutes in #openstack-meeting-alt | 13:50 |
| szaher | the meeting agenda can be found here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings | 13:50 |
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| szaher | The meeting has been started already | 14:03 |
| haad1 | where is the meeting ? | 14:06 |
| jiaopengju | #openstack-meeting-alt | 14:06 |
| haad1 | heh I'm there | 14:06 |
| haad1 | thanks | 14:06 |
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| jiaopengju | haad1: do you means use swift api directly without keystone? | 14:59 |
| haad1 | yeah | 15:00 |
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| haad1 | as that's the only way you can use that interface on that array | 15:00 |
| jiaopengju | got it | 15:01 |
| ibmko | hi, I work with haad1, the problem with EMC Isilon is that it only supports keystone auth v1 for authentication and freezer only supports V2 and V3 auth | 15:02 |
| ibmko | EMC Isilon is a near line storage, basically a clustered NAS storage. It can export NFS and CIFS shares or provide Swift base access | 15:03 |
| ibmko | so we ended up creating a NFS share, mounted it to our freezer backup VM, and configured backups for local path storage target :) | 15:04 |
| ibmko | but its a temporary solution, we have no idea how well it will scale etc. | 15:04 |
| haad1 | szaher: https://github.com/Chillisystems/freezer-api | 15:05 |
| haad1 | https://github.com/Chillisystems/freezer-ui | 15:05 |
| haad1 | https://github.com/Chillisystems/freezer-agent | 15:05 |
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| jiaopengju | ibmko: I think you can add a new driver or imporve the current swift driver to support set swift id, key and endpoint | 15:06 |
| ibmko | yeah, I think it has a solution. We first need to decide whether the EMC Isilon will be our future backing storage anyway | 15:08 |
| jiaopengju | Then you can use swift storage without the keystone authentication | 15:08 |
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| vnogin | guys, as far as I remember we don't have * neutron networks backup and * glance images backup, right? | 15:40 |
| vnogin | @szaher slashme ^ | 15:40 |
| slashme | Nope | 15:41 |
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| vnogin | so we need them? right? :) | 16:14 |
| szaher | vnogin: may networks for tenant backups, I'm not sure about images but sure we can back it up as well | 16:19 |
| vnogin | szaher: wow, how we can do it? | 16:19 |
| szaher | vnogin: I think for networks it's more like metadata backup, just backing up some metadata information and neutron will take care of recreating them again | 16:22 |
| agrebennikov | szaher, what do you mean "metadata"? | 16:23 |
| agrebennikov | who is supposed to re-issue the proper commands to neutron? | 16:24 |
| agrebennikov | in case it needs to be restored | 16:24 |
| szaher | agrebennikov: I mean all neutron data can be store as json as there is no actual data, neutron can recreate these networks again once we do the required api calls | 16:25 |
| szaher | agrebennikov: freezer neturon-Engine can be implemented to backup neutron networks, which will be just simple json file as there is no actual data and then the restore will be through triggering some api calls | 16:26 |
| agrebennikov | I agree, there is no "data" in fact. But the question is - is there something in the code who may do it? | 16:26 |
| agrebennikov | and also who is supposed to check duplications etc | 16:26 |
| szaher | agrebennikov: I don't think backing up networks is really a thing, but I think we will need it in tenant backups as we need to have the right network to attach the vms to it | 16:27 |
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| agrebennikov | szaher, it is mainly important when it is time to do a DR | 16:27 |
| agrebennikov | otherwise I'd say it is useless | 16:28 |
| agrebennikov | I mean, within a single cloud during its lifecycle | 16:28 |
| szaher | agrebennikov: I think this depends on the user requirements, like if you're doing tenant backup you can add a flag called backup networks, backup volumes, backup keys, backup security groups, ... | 16:29 |
| agrebennikov | well, in this case you also have to take care about the rest of the stuff like barbican creatures, heat stacks, mistral flows, zachar queues etc :D | 16:30 |
| agrebennikov | which is most likely impossible | 16:30 |
| szaher | agrebennikov: I think we need only to backup resources which will be required to backup and restore instances running in a certain tenant | 16:32 |
| agrebennikov | well, from my perspective just naked instances are barely useful in more or less prod cloud | 16:33 |
| agrebennikov | where you have balancers and stacks for example | 16:33 |
| szaher | agrebennikov: I think it depends on the use case | 16:35 |
| szaher | agrebennikov: Do you have a use case for tenant backups ? | 16:35 |
| szaher | vnogin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469938/ finally :) | 16:35 |
| agrebennikov | I currently have a task to review options for DR | 16:35 |
| agrebennikov | when you restore tenant's data in the new cloud | 16:36 |
| agrebennikov | which is why I need all tenant-related stuff to be able to restore all-in-one | 16:36 |
| szaher | agrebennikov: Where do you work, if I may ask :) ? | 16:36 |
| agrebennikov | mirantis as well ;) | 16:37 |
| szaher | Nice :) | 16:37 |
| agrebennikov | brb in an hour is you'll still be here | 16:37 |
| vnogin | szaher: agrebennikov Saad, we both from Mirantis :) | 16:38 |
| szaher | agrebennikov: I hope so, I might be here. ping me If I'm here I will surely answer :) | 16:38 |
| szaher | vnogin: That's Good :) | 16:38 |
| szaher | We can also have a hangout session to discuss what we have now in freezer and what is next hopefully | 16:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/freezer master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/469563 | 22:10 |
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