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| AJaeger | asettle: thanks for all the reviews and updates! | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Add title markups for the hyperlinks https://review.openstack.org/599177 | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/contributor-guide master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/631442 | 15:21 |
| asettle | AJaeger, no problem :D sorry for the bother but I couldn't help myself haha | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Address copyright and license header https://review.openstack.org/593662 | 15:32 |
| asettle | AJaeger, I left a comment on a few to remove them as they are WAY out of date and/or do no longer apply. Would be good if a core could clean up ;) | 15:33 |
| AJaeger | asettle: I cleaned all up that I noticed - if I missed some, please tell me. | 15:37 |
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| asettle | AJaeger, thoughts on these: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339747/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495313/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489253/ ? | 15:54 |
| asettle | Basically the three currently in merge conflict. | 15:54 |
| asettle | Monty's has been there for... years. | 15:54 |
| asettle | Ah, and probably this one needs comment on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575118/ | 15:55 |
| asettle | It's been floating a while. | 15:55 |
| AJaeger | checking... | 16:01 |
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| AJaeger | asettle: no good idea ;( The first two might be fine - the third needs good testing | 16:02 |
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| pkovar | docs meeting in #openstack-meeting | 16:32 |
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| tosky | so | 17:00 |
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| pkovar | my knowledge of api docs is very limited | 17:01 |
| pkovar | so looking for somebody who actually understands the subject matter | 17:02 |
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| factor | Same , but seems to be a quick moving target. | 17:04 |
| tosky | pkovar: stephenfin maybe? | 17:04 |
| factor | I'm using the brute force method. Randomly trying everything,but only once until I find what works. On the dev system of course. | 17:05 |
| tosky | factor: about API doc? Or I'm missing some context | 17:06 |
| factor | tosky, not having a good link to api doc. | 17:06 |
| factor | Starting to make my own docks. Just getting to the basic API's | 17:07 |
| factor | s/docks/docs/g | 17:07 |
| tosky | all the API documentation should be accessible from https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/ | 17:08 |
| tosky | if something is missing, it should be added there | 17:08 |
| tosky | uh, maybe not that URL directly | 17:08 |
| factor | You have to make sure you have the link tot he deprecated functions and commands. | 17:08 |
| tosky | from https://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/quick-start/ | 17:08 |
| tosky | this is about the API, not the implementations (python clients and CLI clients) | 17:09 |
| factor | Right sorry, just getting to this point.. finally. | 17:09 |
| factor | Everything is moving to only using openstack correct. Instead of the individual api's as control. | 17:10 |
| tosky | not yet | 17:11 |
| tosky | so, you are talking about the clients | 17:11 |
| factor | i.e. openstack command command commands, instead of neutron commands commands, or glance command command. | 17:11 |
| tosky | when talking about clients, there are two (main) kind of clients: the python clients, and the CLI clients | 17:11 |
| tosky | there is long term vague idea to unify the python clients so that everyone should use openstacksdk or a plugin of it, but there is no firm plan for that | 17:12 |
| factor | ok | 17:12 |
| tosky | a more concrete plan, which *may* become a common goal in one or two cycles, is the unificaiton of the CLI clients: as you mentioned, the openstack <foo> commands | 17:12 |
| tosky | some projects already switched to the openstack <foo> command as the only clients (keystone, sahara), others started the process, deprecating their own standalone command (neutron) | 17:13 |
| tosky | others provide both version, but without a clear deprecation plan | 17:13 |
| factor | This is acceptable, but the book I had originally bought was for Liberty. way out of date and EOL. So could not even test it. | 17:13 |
| factor | the newer books are only 2016 or older. | 17:13 |
| tosky | probably because the "keystone" command is gone | 17:13 |
| factor | yes that one as well. | 17:13 |
| factor | then reading over all the install guides and piece together stuff that is working and compiled it into one doc. For me at least. | 17:16 |
| tosky | but the official installation guides on openstack.org should use the working commands | 17:16 |
| tosky | which kind of documentation did you create? A collection of all openstack <foo> commands? | 17:17 |
| factor | Its very choose your own adventure style and misses how to debug when errors occur. | 17:17 |
| factor | Where to look Where to config etc.. | 17:17 |
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| tosky | isn't it something that could be added (contributed back) to the existing documentation? | 17:20 |
| factor | For one when setting up some configs will kill your network , if you use your network your on. Or security apps or DB's already installed causing much fret. | 17:20 |
| factor | Yes. | 17:20 |
| factor | Is an excellent management system once configured , but its far from an yum or apt get install. Although the ubuntu one is close. | 17:21 |
| factor | Working on installing all the flavors of Linux as host and cloud image mixes to get a more robust feel for installs advantages and distractions. | 17:23 |
| factor | Wrote up a simple doc for me, if anyone to install OpenSuse devstack from older or newer versions. | 17:25 |
| factor | https://raw.githubusercontent.com/icarusfactor/openstack-Installs/master/Openstack%20OpenSUSE%20LEAP15%20HOST | 17:25 |
| factor | typos filled still , but needed to move on to client API tests. | 17:26 |
| tosky | uhm, wonder why not use libvirt/kvm instead of virtualbox, given that the base system is Linux-based (centos) | 17:26 |
| tosky | also, SELinux is not enabled on opensuse, but in general I wouldn't advise to disable it (if devstack needs to do it, it should it by itself) | 17:27 |
| tosky | but I guess I'm going off topic | 17:27 |
| factor | I liked the virtualbox , I had tried libvirt initially. Was familiar with Virtualbox then basic qemu controls. | 17:27 |
| factor | not really. | 17:28 |
| factor | that is part of the confusion , you can start your path in many ways. | 17:28 |
| factor | choose your own adventure as I said. | 17:28 |
| factor | In fact the docs would be a good angle to make a choose your own adventure book. "Openstack : installation of the private archivecluster " | 17:29 |
| tosky | documentation may document what was supposed to work and what is more guaranteed to work; if you want a less common path, you have to put together your personal knowledge | 17:29 |
| factor | yes | 17:29 |
| tosky | but this does not work this way just for openstack, it's for most software | 17:30 |
| factor | As I was watching the Openstack presentation on youtube. Openstack is not just one software, it a cluster of projects working ... "if stars align" ... in sync. | 17:31 |
| factor | but would say as a system admin This is a more conformable method than manually doing it with Linux commands. | 17:32 |
| factor | comfortable ^ | 17:32 |
| factor | I really like how it lets you scale with ease , once configured. | 17:33 |
| factor | Which is another document misgiving , they are dry , and not the why. | 17:34 |
| factor | Like setting a goal for learning or install said method. | 17:35 |
| factor | Instead of here is this pieace of software and how to install it. | 17:35 |
| factor | piece^ | 17:35 |
| factor | Have if this is what you want , these are the pieces you need and how to install them. | 17:36 |
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| factor | But anyway , will work through the process again and again and look at a choose your own adventure style of doc. Which may even be fun. Will try to pitch in on the docs if I find a niche | 17:39 |
| factor | In the future I may end up using the qemu libvirt/KVM method to keep away from gfx libs being installed. But VirtualBox was a good training wheel method. | 17:42 |
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| eumel8 | pkovar: ^^ if you're still around | 18:04 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, eumel8 ! | 18:55 |
| eumel8 | self merge, mhm, ok ;) | 18:57 |
| AJaeger | eumel8: had previous +2 by pkovar... and long enough without reviews ;( | 18:59 |
| eumel8 | AJaeger: I would never complain about it ;) | 19:00 |
| AJaeger | ;) | 19:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/contributor-guide master: Build translated docs https://review.openstack.org/627945 | 19:01 |
| eumel8 | and published | 19:15 |
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| AJaeger | yeah! | 19:33 |
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