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openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Add OSD 2018 Events  https://review.openstack.org/55265000:19
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/55315106:10
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openstackgerritwangqi proposed openstack/security-doc master: Replace Chinese punctuation with English punctuation  https://review.openstack.org/55322807:35
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/55323907:42
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/55324107:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/55324108:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-labs master: Fix test for network agents  https://review.openstack.org/55243908:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-labs master: Update cirros to 0.4.0  https://review.openstack.org/55244009:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-labs master: Switch another test from neutron to openstack CLI client  https://review.openstack.org/55244109:02
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evrardjphello everyone09:22
evrardjpI have a look at this: https://docs.openstack.org/openstackdocstheme/latest/demo/index.html09:22
evrardjpand this: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstackdocstheme/refs/09:22
evrardjpit looks to me that we overly enthusiastic with the version numbers on the generated pages.09:23
evrardjp(1.18.2 is not out)09:23
evrardjpis that on purpose? That's confusing09:23
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AJaegerevrardjp: 1.19.0 is latest release - and we publish from master09:29
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evrardjpAJaeger: agreed, but 1.18.2 is weird09:34
evrardjpOMG09:34
evrardjpctrl refresh.09:34
evrardjpbrowser tricked me!09:35
evrardjpok, anyway09:35
evrardjpdoes 1.19.1 make sense when there is still no 1.19.1 out?09:35
evrardjpmy question is because there are ppl confused in openstack-ansible. We in our doc something checking what's the latest tag, and use that for saying what to checkout. And some ppl read the version on the top left of the page, instead of what's in our docs itself.09:38
evrardjpI am fine with triaging this bug as "won't fix". but I need to believe/understand why we are doing it in the first place. It makes sense to say we are publishing for next version and so we show up next version. But for stable branches, it might not make snese09:39
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evrardjpsense*09:41
AJaegerevrardjp: I don't know why we do it this way. Might be a pbr artefact. Let's ask others - stephenfin might be able to help.09:49
stephenfinevrardjp, AJaeger: That is...odd. It's pbr that's setting that option, yes. I don't know why it's off by one though09:51
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stephenfinYup, pbr https://github.com/openstack/openstackdocstheme/blob/master/doc/source/conf.py#L6 and https://github.com/openstack/openstackdocstheme/blob/master/openstackdocstheme/version.py#L1709:54
evrardjpYes it's pbr09:58
evrardjpjust wondering why09:58
evrardjpI mean not the code reason, but the human reason09:59
evrardjpalso this version can't seem to be overridable.09:59
evrardjpoh wait I have to double check on that last affirmation: browser tricked me in the past :D09:59
stephenfinevrardjp, AJaeger: Hmm, so I'm thinking that _may_ be expected behavior10:08
stephenfinSee here https://github.com/openstack-dev/pbr/blob/master/pbr/packaging.py#L690-L69410:08
stephenfinWe're trying to build a version number from Git. If we've had one or more commits since the last tag, we bump the version number10:09
evrardjpstephenfin: I think it's alright for master.10:10
stephenfinwhich I guess signifies that this is the documentation for something _after_ 1.9.0, or whatever your latest tag was10:10
evrardjpfor stable/ branches, showing on the docs something that's not yet released is setting weird expectations10:10
evrardjpstephenfin: I agree there10:10
evrardjpIt makes sense for master branch to show up "what's next"10:11
stephenfinEven for master, it seems weird. I'd rather say something like 1.9.0.post6 or whatever10:11
stephenfinI mean, 1.9.1 might never exist10:11
stephenfinWe could go straight for 1.10.010:11
stephenfinor 2.0.010:11
evrardjpyes10:11
stephenfinHmm, this sounds like something we should have monty and dhellmann weigh in on. Perhaps on #openstack-release ?10:12
evrardjpdocs generated manually for our stable/queens branch show 17.0.1.dev110:12
stephenfinIt would be a breaking change in pbr. Not sure if that's an issue or not10:12
evrardjpwhich is already a little better if that was master10:12
evrardjpstephenfin: I am not sure we need to change pbr10:12
evrardjppbr seems doing what it needs10:12
evrardjpI am not sure we should use pbr for documentation purposes10:13
stephenfinYeah, 17.0.0.dev1 makes more sense than 17.0.1.dev1, assuming you've has one commit since 17.0.0 was tagged10:13
stephenfinHow else would you find a version number to work with?10:13
evrardjpon that I'd agree10:13
stephenfin*you've had one10:13
evrardjpstephenfin: we are using this kind of things in our code10:13
evrardjphttps://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/17.0.0/doc/source/conf.py#L31310:14
evrardjpI thought of using that var for version = (L91) but it doesn't seem to work10:14
stephenfinevrardjp: You're kind of reinventing the wheel there :)10:14
stephenfinThat's what pbr is doing under the hood too10:14
evrardjpstephenfin: yes indeed. Tech debt is high, and we can definitely improve.10:15
stephenfinOnly, with a load of additional ways to find the version10:15
stephenfinlike PKG-METADATA10:15
stephenfinevrardjp: Is that a Python package though?10:15
stephenfinI'd assume not10:15
evrardjpnope we do have some python, but it's something I'd like to get rid off tbh.10:16
evrardjpI'd rather use something else10:16
stephenfinHmm, then that makes pbr less useful10:16
evrardjpI guess there is multiple points in this conversation:10:16
evrardjp1) We should use pbr more10:16
evrardjp2) We should make sure pbr has something for us10:17
evrardjp3) We should make sure version= can be overridable for users of the openstack docs theme10:17
stephenfin1) We should use pbr more *if you're using Python*. No point including a 'setup.py' just so you can version something10:17
stephenfin2) Sure10:18
evrardjp1) is for OSA only, 2-3) is for the general community10:18
stephenfin3) You can override it already if you don't build docs with 'python setup.py build_sphinx'10:18
evrardjpI agree there with the 1) . For now we have a setup.py, and I guess it's kind of a convention for openstack right now10:18
stephenfinThat's the thing that triggers automatic versioning for most projects at the moment10:18
evrardjpcould you clarify that 3?10:18
evrardjplet me check what we have10:19
stephenfinpbr provides a custom version of the 'build_sphinx' command10:19
evrardjppython setup.py build_sphinx10:19
stephenfinThat custom version configures the release and version settings for Sphinx automatically10:19
stephenfinIf you build docs with 'sphinx-build', none of that code is executed10:19
evrardjpok10:19
stephenfinSo whatever you have defined in 'conf.py' is used instead10:20
evrardjpmmm10:20
evrardjpThis is counterintuitive10:20
evrardjpI thought the conf.py was still taken into consideration10:20
stephenfinquite possibly. It's all legacy stuff10:20
stephenfinhttps://github.com/openstack-dev/pbr/blob/master/pbr/builddoc.py#L256-L25810:20
evrardjpwe can probably remove these sections of conf.py then10:20
stephenfinFor now, yup10:21
stephenfinWe're trying to move that version setting into openstackdocstheme10:21
stephenfins/We're/I'm/10:21
stephenfinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/552069/10:21
evrardjpstephenfin: I think that makes sense for us10:22
evrardjpif we move that version to openstackdocstheme, we can modify it the way we want10:22
stephenfinYup, I think so10:22
stephenfinAlso lets us remove the pbr integration, which is continuously breaking10:22
stephenfin*pbr sphinx integration10:23
stephenfinevrardjp: Maybe worth reviewing that change to see if it meets your expectations10:23
evrardjpmmm I sense a path to both the same direction and the opposite direction10:23
evrardjpI'd like to trust the conf.py more10:24
evrardjpor at least have an overridable way10:24
evrardjpbecause version in docs is completely ignored10:24
evrardjplet me double check what I am saying10:24
evrardjpbut I like the idea10:24
evrardjp:)10:25
stephenfinYeah, I've gone the other direction https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552069/4/openstackdocstheme/ext.py@21110:25
stephenfinMostly because people don't really get this stuff usually10:25
stephenfinand configure it incorrectly10:25
evrardjpI like the fact we do things in a smart way in the openstackdocstheme.10:25
stephenfinSo it's a literal case of "we probably know better than you" :)10:25
stephenfinThat's not always true though, heh10:26
evrardjpyeah exactly10:26
evrardjpso I think it's smarter to say: Your conf.py must be clean, and it works out of the box for openstack things.10:26
evrardjpBut if you really want it, you can use this.10:26
evrardjpelse I see all the way for regressions :)10:26
stephenfinMaybe that's the way to do it, aye10:26
evrardjpand it's easier to phase out.10:26
evrardjplet me think about it and review it10:27
evrardjpbut I am glad we digged into this together10:27
stephenfinSounds good to me10:27
evrardjpI learned things :)10:27
stephenfinand np :)10:27
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AJaegerevrardjp, stephenfin, keep in mind that we do not use tox -e docs for building docs - but run either build_sphinx (if you have autodocs enabled in setup.cfg - called "legacy build") or sphinx-build (if not). See the log file for what is used.10:38
AJaegerwe = OpenStack CI in build-sphinx-docs job10:38
stephenfinAJaeger: Oh, I didn't know that. So if were able to get all those projects to migrate of pbr's autodoc feature, we could remove 'build_sphinx' entirely?10:39
stephenfin*off10:39
stephenfinThe autosummary extension in Sphinx does something very similar to the pbr autodoc feature, I've been told (by Sphinx devs). I should probably investigate a migration path http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/ext/autosummary.html10:40
evrardjpAJaeger: I am not sure what's the state of the art right now. If we need to move to something else (not legacy), what should we do?10:41
AJaegerstephenfin: yes!10:41
AJaegerevrardjp: you don't need to do anything in tox.ini - OpenStack CI figures it out10:41
AJaegerevrardjp: which repo are we talking about (give me one example)10:41
evrardjpAJaeger: just FYI the only reason we keep tox.ini is for docs.10:41
evrardjpAJaeger: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/tox.ini#L4210:42
evrardjpthat's what we have right now10:42
AJaegerevrardjp: not sure whether we can remove it now - best ask mordred next week10:42
evrardjpbut removing it is not the problem I am trying to solve right now10:42
AJaegeroh, you need it for local building for sure10:42
evrardjpI am trying to figure out what's best for our future10:43
evrardjpso you say that sphinx-build is the way to go in the future?10:43
evrardjpAJaeger: I am trying to cleanup the tech debt this cycle, so you're just adding one I have the feeling :)10:44
evrardjphttps://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/17.0.0/setup.cfg#L15-L18 is what you call the legacy build?10:44
AJaegerevrardjp: http://logs.openstack.org/80/553280/2/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/cba914e/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-03-15_09_22_47_250720 shows that we use the new way - you do not enable autodoc at all10:45
AJaegerSo, we run already "build-sphinx ..."10:45
AJaegerhttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul-jobs/tree/roles/sphinx/tasks/main.yaml#n42 is what is used10:45
AJaegerlegacy would be http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul-jobs/tree/roles/sphinx/tasks/main.yaml#n5110:46
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AJaegerstephenfin: best discuss more next week with mordred10:47
evrardjpAJaeger: ok so we are good10:49
AJaegerevrardjp: always ;)10:49
evrardjpthanks to you I guess? :p10:50
evrardjpso now the question is how to make the docs generation do the right thing. for manual execution we should probably use the same as what we do in gates.10:50
evrardjpAJaeger: thanks for the pointer in the right direction, I will change our tox if need be, and see how I can override these version numbers.10:51
AJaegerevrardjp: change to use the same command we have in the CI (line 42)10:54
evrardjpAJaeger: yup :)11:00
evrardjpI meant "thanks" not as "please point me", just as "you did great by pointing to me that, I thank you a lot".11:00
AJaegerevrardjp: you're welcome!11:03
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openstackgerritNguyen Hai proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Add user, admin, conf webpage of Tacker  https://review.openstack.org/55339013:03
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openstackgerritNguyen Hai proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Add admin, conf, install, user webpage of Tacker service  https://review.openstack.org/55339013:10
openstackgerritNguyen Hai proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Add admin, conf, install, user webpage of Tacker service  https://review.openstack.org/55339013:12
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openstackgerritwangqi proposed openstack/security-doc master: delete unused module  https://review.openstack.org/55342114:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-labs master: Queens update  https://review.openstack.org/55244216:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Add OSD 2018 Events  https://review.openstack.org/55265018:46
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