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| pkovar | AJaeger: got a q wrt updating documentation for local building openstack docs, is it better to recommend using sphinx-build or tox -e docs ? | 14:50 |
| pkovar | sphinx-build would be consistent with https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/project-testing-interface.html#documentation | 14:51 |
| stephenfin | pkovar: tox should call sphinx-build _and_ handle the nitty-gritty of building your environment. I'd use that, personally | 14:56 |
| pkovar | good point, seems to be better suited for first time use case then | 14:56 |
| * AJaeger agrees with stephenfin | 14:57 | |
| pkovar | will have a patch ready shortly, will cc you folks | 14:57 |
| pkovar | thanks | 14:57 |
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| pkovar | any suggestions as to how to collectively refer to docs repos such as security-doc and openstack-manuals? | 15:20 |
| pkovar | would "documentation repos" be confusing? | 15:20 |
| pkovar | "documentation repos as opposed to project repos" | 15:21 |
| pkovar | not sure if that distinction is clear | 15:21 |
| pkovar | but we kinda need it for doc contrib guide | 15:22 |
| pkovar | right now its heavily openstack-manuals focused | 15:22 |
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| pkovar | another tricky part is that e.g. security-doc tox environment is not really consistent with contributor-guide | 15:26 |
| pkovar | hard to provide common docs for those! | 15:26 |
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| dhellmann | pkovar : you're trying to talk about them collectively? if you give more context I might be able to help with phrasing. | 15:39 |
| pkovar | dhellmann: basically, i'd like to separate this section https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/docs-builds.html#build-workflow | 15:40 |
| pkovar | into project repos section | 15:40 |
| pkovar | and "documentation repos" section | 15:41 |
| pkovar | the former would talk about tox -e docs | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | we could also add build instructions directly to the project repos in their contributor docs | 15:41 |
| pkovar | the latter about what's there already | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | the instructions that are there now only apply to the openstack-manuals repo, right? | 15:42 |
| pkovar | correct, but wouldn't that need a lot of duplicated content? | 15:42 |
| dhellmann | so you could talk about that repo specifically, and then "any other repositories" | 15:42 |
| pkovar | yes, correct | 15:42 |
| dhellmann | or even "all other repositories with documentation" | 15:42 |
| pkovar | can we assume that a project repo is a repo with documentation? | 15:43 |
| dhellmann | the problem with putting instructions in this contrib guide is that if I'm looking at the oslo.config source tree trying to figure out how to build something I don't know to go look at instructions published from somewhere else. | 15:43 |
| dhellmann | most project repos have docs; not all repos with docs are project repos | 15:43 |
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| pkovar | well, then there are readme files that should in fact also contain the info | 15:43 |
| pkovar | on building | 15:44 |
| dhellmann | yes, at least a pointer in the repo to where the docs are published is a good idea | 15:44 |
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| pkovar | let me submit a patch and then we can iterate, as always :) | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:49 |
| pkovar | "other repositories with documentation" sounds good to me though its a bit long | 15:49 |
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| pkovar | for headings, etc. | 15:50 |
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| pkovar | for the o-m section, we could really just point to https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/README.rst and save everybody's time :) | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | you could just say "other repositories" | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | and clarify in the body of the text that not all of them will have documentation | 15:53 |
| pkovar | or that | 15:55 |
| AJaeger | pkovar, dhellmann: security-doc, api-site and openstack-manuals are all together in this IMHO | 15:55 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : why is security-doc not just using the regular sphinx build steps? | 15:56 |
| dhellmann | I always forget about api-site, that one does need the special stuff | 15:56 |
| pkovar | there are multiple docs in security-doc | 15:56 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: it has several documents | 15:56 |
| dhellmann | sigh | 15:57 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:57 |
| pkovar | ;) | 15:57 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: we could split that into several ones | 15:57 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: initially it was a docbook XML guide in security-doc as well... | 15:57 |
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| pkovar | any objections if we nuke https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/quickstart/developers.html and https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/quickstart/new-projects.html ? | 16:40 |
| pkovar | (and update the infra guide accordingly) | 16:40 |
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| pkovar | but we kinda agreed on that at the ptg, but | 16:41 |
| AJaeger | where do you want to add it? http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/ | 16:43 |
| AJaeger | pkovar: so, first merge it there - then remove from openstack-manuals. | 16:43 |
| pkovar | i meant https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/ | 16:44 |
| pkovar | but sounds good | 16:44 |
| AJaeger | pkovar: ok, figure out what should go where, let it merge, then remove - that works fine for me... | 16:45 |
| pkovar | man, the toc of https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/ is looong | 16:45 |
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| dhellmann | pkovar : yeah, I think the project-team-guide is probably a better location for any of that content that needs to be kept. | 16:46 |
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| dhellmann | although it looks like the team guide already links over to the contributor guide | 16:46 |
| dhellmann | ETOOMANYGUIDES | 16:46 |
| pkovar | yes, it does | 16:47 |
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| pkovar | yes, to much documentation ! | 16:47 |
| pkovar | too, even | 16:47 |
| dhellmann | explaining which jobs to configure sounds like an infra manual topic | 16:47 |
| pkovar | yes | 16:47 |
| dhellmann | is anything in https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/quickstart/developers.html still relevant? | 16:48 |
| pkovar | i also found out i am much better at removing content than adding it! | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | heh | 16:48 |
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