Wednesday, 2017-12-13

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/training-guides master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/52760907:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-guides master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/52760907:44
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pkovarall: docs meeting starts here in 50 mins15:11
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chasonpkovar Meeting time :)16:01
pkovaryes it is16:01
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pkovarlets get the party started then16:01
pkovar#startmeeting docteam16:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 13 16:01:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is pkovar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'docteam'16:01
pkovar#topic roll call16:02
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pkovarwho's around this time? :)16:02
jamesmcarthuro/16:02
pkovar\o16:02
chasono/16:02
pkovar\o16:02
AJaegero/16:03
jamesmcarthurcha cha cha16:04
pkovaro\16:06
pkovarthat was moving on16:06
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pkovar#topic Docs retention policy changes16:06
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pkovar#link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/queens/retention-policy.html16:06
pkovarwe links to relevant reviews in16:06
pkovar#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/retention-policy16:06
pkovar#info Good progress, waiting on changes to be merged16:06
pkovarzuul was acting up yesterday, not sure if we need to recheck?16:07
pkovarAJaeger: do you know? ^16:07
pkovarwe have two outstanding reviews to finish implementing the spec16:08
AJaegerpkovar: yes, recheck is needed if you have no results or strange ones16:09
pkovar(unless something breaks again, heh)16:09
pkovarokay, will do16:09
pkovarwe might need to push a trivial change too to eol branches to trigger republishing16:09
pkovari think that's what was needed last time when we resurrected mitaka16:10
pkovaranything else about this topic?16:10
pkovaractually16:11
pkovar#info Flagging deprecated releases16:11
pkovar#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123381.html16:11
pkovarnot sure what's the progress there? jamesmcarthur do you know?16:11
jamesmcarthurHi - we have started work on this. Expect something to be up for review within a week.16:12
jamesmcarthur(i hope)16:12
pkovarsounds great, hope to have the guides for newton and ocata republished this week too16:12
jamesmcarthurWe're working on modifying the yaml to include some additional variables based on the state of the release.16:13
jamesmcarthurWhich will give us a dynamic message box that we can attach to the top of any release.16:13
pkovarsomething like devel/latest/old stable/unsupported?16:13
pkovars/latest/latest stable/16:14
jamesmcarthurusing the status under SERIES_INFO: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/tools/www-generator.py#n4316:14
pkovargood good16:15
jamesmcarthurmy proposal will be to add a couple of new variables like: bannercolor, bannermessage, bannerlink that can be modified by anyone16:15
jamesmcarthurper series16:16
pkovarsounds great16:16
pkovarokay, thanks for the update, moving on...16:17
pkovar#topic Rocky PTG16:17
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pkovar#link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/16:18
pkovar#info Planning etherpad for docs+i18n created16:18
pkovar#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-rocky16:18
pkovar#info Sign up and tell us your preference wrt parcel time into small chunks or have full-day focus on one team agenda?16:18
pkovar#info ... on the eherpad16:18
pkovar#info we will be joined by people involved in the contrib guide effort16:19
pkovar#info ... and upstream institute16:20
pkovar#link Contributor Guide https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/16:20
pkovar#action add your own topics to the planning etherpad16:21
pkovarso far, we have redoing docs tags, reviewing actions items from the past, restoring builds16:21
pkovarand contrib guide16:21
pkovarrelated to that, and mostly fyi16:23
pkovar#topic removed unused docs:follows-policy tag16:23
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pkovar#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524217/16:23
pkovar#info new docs tags to be discussed at PTG16:23
pkovarokay, next topic16:24
pkovar#topic changes to the docs core team16:24
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pkovar#info Anne Gentle stepped down from the core team16:24
pkovar#info thanks Anne for your leadership and involvement in the docs project since the very beginning!16:24
pkovar#topic Project Liaisons for  First Contact SIG16:25
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pkovar#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG16:26
pkovar#info Anyone interested in being the docs project liaison?16:26
pkovarif so, please go ahead and sign up16:26
pkovarand maybe let me know .)16:26
pkovarthis is a recent effort trying to attract more contributors to the community16:27
pkovaras we all know, it's challenging to find new docs writers so attracting newcomers to start writing docs is the way to go16:28
pkovar(in a coordinated fashion)16:28
pkovar#topic PDF builds16:29
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pkovar#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509297/16:29
pkovarstill work to do also in terms of figuring out what to do about eol docs pdf builds16:30
pkovarianychoi gave us an update yesterday16:30
ianychoihi16:30
pkovaro/16:30
pkovarany comments, ianychoi? :)16:31
ianychoiFor the spec, would there be some ways to continue conversation from http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124863.html ?16:32
pkovar#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124863.html16:32
pkovar#action follow up on the pdf build thread16:33
ianychoiAnd.. for pdfs for Mitaka, I found that Sphinx < 1.3 is used for build environment16:34
ianychoiNot much sure whether old version of Sphinx is fine with pdf builds. I will more see on this.16:35
pkovarif that version is too old, we can follow up with infra?16:36
pkovarthough mitaka is eol, so not sure if we want to spend too much time on that16:36
AJaegerpkovar: infra has nothing to do with that.16:37
AJaegerIt's test-requirements - and that's what we control.16:37
pkovarah, so just update that? cool16:38
ianychoipkovar, after Mitaka, there have been some requirement changes. Such changes are fine with eol branches?16:38
AJaegerPast experience has shown that newer sphinx needs changes to RST files as well, so if you update, you'll need to fix some files as well16:38
pkovargood point16:38
ianychoiAnd some bindep.txt modification16:38
pkovara test build would be need to assess the volume of editing work required16:39
pkovarto tweak the RSTs16:39
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pkovarianychoi: if it's under our control, i think it's fine16:40
ianychoipkovar, aha good :)16:41
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pkovarokay, if there are more comments, lets discuss here later or in -dev16:44
pkovar#topic Bug Triage Team16:44
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pkovar#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams16:44
pkovarthanks goes to chason who volunteered for this week16:44
ianychoiNothing more currently - ah https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525187/ - thank u chason16:44
pkovarif more people are interested in bug triaging, please sign up16:45
chasonpkovar Hahah16:45
pkovaror file bugs :)16:45
chasonpkovar ianychoi yw :)16:46
chasonpkovar BTW, I have signed up this position, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG#Project_Liaisons16:46
pkovarexcellent, thanks chason16:47
pkovar#info chason signed up for  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG#Project_Liaisons16:47
ianychoi+1 :)16:47
pkovar#action file bugs, triage bugs, repeat16:48
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chasonpkovar np. I'd really like more people join us. :)16:48
pkovaryes, but if more people don't sign up, we can always rethink how we want to deal with bugs16:49
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pkovar#topic Open discussion16:50
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pkovarany objections if we cancel the meeting of Dec 27? :)16:51
pkovarwe would meet on Jan 1016:51
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pkovari take it as a no then :)16:52
pkovar#info next meeting scheduled for Jan 10 201816:52
pkovarany other business to discuss?16:53
pkovarif not enjoy your holidays and happy new year!16:54
pkovarthanks, everybody16:54
ianychoipkovar, happy new year early :) BTW16:54
chasonthanks pkovar16:54
* AJaeger wishes all happy holidays as well16:54
pkovari know, it' just for us folks in the mtg :)16:54
ianychoipkovar, hmm I can ask to u later :)16:55
jamesmcarthurthanks pkovar!16:55
pkovar#endmeeting16:55
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