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| eumel8 | morning | 06:48 |
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| asettle | Morning o/ | 08:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/training-guides master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/511196 | 10:54 |
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| evrardjp | AJaeger: problem with translation jobs? | 12:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Remove '``' (double backticks) from heading https://review.openstack.org/511171 | 12:14 |
| eumel8 | evrardjp: which one? | 12:15 |
| evrardjp | I don't know that's why I am asking... I saw that in the logs | 12:15 |
| eumel8 | asettle, pkovar: 511171 - sorry, maybe merged too early | 12:17 |
| eumel8 | evrardjp: the old jobs are fine as I can see, the new zuul v3 jobs are going slowly on after the repair of the mirror last night. | 12:18 |
| evrardjp | k.. i see :) I know the feeling.... | 12:19 |
| eumel8 | zuul v3 status seems empty .. or it takes another while to collect the status of the queue ;) | 12:21 |
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| AJaeger | evrardjp: why? What do you see? | 12:29 |
| evrardjp | AJaeger: nothing, but if you seen something I can help you with, just don't hesitate. | 12:30 |
| evrardjp | Just reading the log. | 12:30 |
| AJaeger | evrardjp: the zuul v3 jobs have not run yet - hope we see them running tomorrow ;) | 12:31 |
| evrardjp | That would be nice, but I can tell you I won't check any job status until Monday. | 12:31 |
| evrardjp | :p | 12:31 |
| AJaeger | evrardjp: I'm happy to ask for help in case those don't work. We now have everything merged that we knew so far broken - so time for next try ;) | 12:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Perez proposed openstack/contributor-guide master: Initial commit of the Contributor Portal https://review.openstack.org/511033 | 17:59 |
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| thingee | ildikov: going to start on the work for publishing the contributor guide. wondering what the url should be | 18:16 |
| thingee | ildikov: https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide ? | 18:17 |
| thingee | anyone in this channel have an opinion? | 18:17 |
| thingee | am I understanding right that the post jobs for publishing docs is leaning on the instructions with tox? | 18:18 |
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| AJaeger | thingee: by default repos publish to docs.openstack.org/REPO/latest/ | 18:21 |
| AJaeger | thingee: that's done with the usual sphinx build - like cinder or nova does | 18:22 |
| AJaeger | I suggest to do the same here as well and not invent anything new | 18:22 |
| thingee | AJaeger: sounds perfect | 18:23 |
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| ildikov | thingee: sorry, I was flying | 19:38 |
| ildikov | thingee: reading back I agree with AJaeger too :) | 19:39 |
| thingee | ildikov: yup, it has already been posted for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511946 | 19:41 |
| ildikov | thingee: awesome!!! Thanks! :) | 19:42 |
| thingee | dhellmann: do you have a second to answer a question about sphinx with the contributor guide project. | 19:42 |
| thingee | ? | 19:43 |
| dhellmann | thingee : I can try | 19:43 |
| dhellmann | thingee : regarding the "contributor-guide" name, you'll want to make sure that doesn't conflict with the old name of the doc team contributor guide | 19:43 |
| dhellmann | I *think* that was contrib-guide but I'm not 100% sure | 19:44 |
| thingee | dhellmann: yes thank you, I'm aware of having to help there. | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | today there's a redirect from the old name to the new, let me look for that | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | redirectmatch 301 ^/contributor-guide/(.*)$ /doc-contrib-guide/$1 | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | so you don't want to call it "contributor-guide" I think | 19:45 |
| dhellmann | maybe just "contributing"? | 19:45 |
| thingee | dang. | 19:45 |
| dhellmann | sorry | 19:45 |
| dhellmann | or we could decide not to redirect, I guess? something to discuss with pkovar | 19:45 |
| thingee | yeah, I think the name indicates some general contributor guide. Later you figure it out it's doc specific. | 19:45 |
| thingee | that definitely halts things. I'll have to go back to that when I have mind unwrapped with this other question. | 19:46 |
| dhellmann | yeah, the doc guide is now at /doc-contrib-guide for that reason | 19:46 |
| thingee | dhellmann: ok, I'll bring it up on the list. | 19:47 |
| dhellmann | I derailed you; did you have another sphinx question? | 19:49 |
| thingee | dhellmann: back to my question, the landing page for contributors on openstack.org/community (Contributor portal) links to general documentation stored in the sphinx project (Contributor Guide). At the PTG we decided to have the general documentation only stored in the contributor guide repo, but the project specific content will reside still in the project's specific contributor documentation. | 19:49 |
| thingee | so now comes the question of how exactly we accomplish that. | 19:49 |
| dhellmann | my idea at the time was just to link over to the project docs, not to do anything fancy trying to publish from source files living in multiple repos | 19:50 |
| dhellmann | so you have the "here's a lot of general info about contributing to openstack" guide and the "here's how you contribute to zaqar" guide | 19:50 |
| dhellmann | that also exposes to the contributor right away that although we're 1 community we're also many teams, and each team has its own variations, which is something they need to understand to be really effective | 19:53 |
| thingee | dhellmann: yeah, so from the contributor portal it could have for example project links that look like docs.o.o/contributor-guide/latest/?next_guide=<some_project_dev_doc_url> ... these will come from the docs contributor field in the projects.yaml | 19:53 |
| thingee | the last page for example of the contributor guide could say "you're done with the general docs yada yada go to nova specific contributor docs <link>" | 19:54 |
| thingee | should verify that it actually exists in projects yaml? or pull it from projects yaml directly maybe | 19:54 |
| thingee | embedding a url like that could be phishy | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | the docs repo has info about which projects have contributor docs | 19:56 |
| dhellmann | so we could pull it from there, if we want to do it automatically | 19:56 |
| dhellmann | but we could also just make the list manually | 19:56 |
| dhellmann | *or* the link in the guide you're building could link to a page in the openstack-manuals repo that is built automatically | 19:56 |
| dhellmann | that wouldn't involve pulling data from yaml files across repos during builds | 19:57 |
| thingee | dhellmann: yes a safe way to do it would be great. Ideally since you picked the project from the contributor portal it should just list the project dev doc you picked, otherwise it lists them all assuming the person went directly to docs.o.o/contributor-guide | 19:57 |
| dhellmann | ah, I see, sure | 19:57 |
| dhellmann | in that case you'll want to consume the yaml file(s) in the openstack-manuals repo | 19:57 |
| dhellmann | https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/doc-tools/template-generator.html has details on that file format | 19:58 |
| dhellmann | and I'm happy to help explain that in more detail if it's not sufficient | 19:58 |
| thingee | also people wanted to link directly to docs.o.o/contributor-guide in their repos so someone doesn't have to go through the contributor portal. | 19:58 |
| dhellmann | oh, hmm, I thought we had a flag for "has_contrib_guide" but we don't | 19:58 |
| dhellmann | sure, that makes sense too | 19:59 |
| dhellmann | ugh, apparently my refrigerator just dumped a bunch of water on the kitchen floor, so I need to go deal with that. I'll probably be back online in a bit. | 19:59 |
| thingee | dhellmann: yikes, good luck. Thanks for showing me this template generator. This could lead me in the right direction. | 20:00 |
| thingee | if anyone else in this channel has ideas, please let me know. Going to have some lunch now. :) | 20:01 |
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