Thursday, 2017-08-31

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openstackgerritTakashi Sogabe proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: Relocate report_interval to agent section  https://review.openstack.org/49942002:35
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Rearrange the front page of upstream institute  https://review.openstack.org/49870103:57
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asettleMorning i.08:51
asettleo/ *\08:51
asettleOh keyboards are hard08:51
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/security-doc master: Adding OSSN-0081  https://review.openstack.org/49917609:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: VMAX driver - Ocata typo in volume type set command  https://review.openstack.org/49912009:47
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asettleNew doc team mission statement: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499556/ pkovar dhellmann aj11:10
asettleJust the WIP draft based on Thierry's suggestion11:10
pkovarasettle: thanks! will have a look11:11
pkovarmy suggestion would be to leave this as a wip until the ptg11:11
pkovarand then approve Mon or Tue based on comments11:11
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openstackgerritRoger Luethi proposed openstack/training-labs master: Pike update  https://review.openstack.org/49848611:36
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dhellmannasettle, pkovar : is there a docs team meeting today?12:30
dhellmannoh, I guess it would be next week12:30
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pkovardhellmann: next week, yes12:31
dhellmannpkovar : what's the process for getting the team to agree to take on a new repo (like whereto)?12:31
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dhellmannpkovar : https://review.openstack.org/49958112:34
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pkovardhellmann: don't think we have a formal process. informal would be to start a thread i guess12:39
dhellmannok12:39
asettlepkovar: already WIP, and email sent out earlier describing exactly that :)12:39
pkovardhellmann: https://github.com/openstack/whereto looks great btw12:40
pkovarasettle: ty12:40
asettledhellmann: ohhhh look at whereto!12:41
dhellmannpkovar : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/121684.html12:46
dhellmannasettle : :-)12:47
eumel8hello doc team :)12:50
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asettleo/ morning12:55
asettlestevemar: "post-great-doc-migration of 2017" yaassssss13:01
* asettle prints 30 shirts13:01
eumel8I would like to announce our agenda for the PTG after the I18n team meeting on openstack-dev. So more people can plan their visit better.13:01
stevemarasettle: it would be a shame if that wasn't a tshirt13:02
asettleIs it too soon for Make Docs Great Again?13:03
stevemarasettle: "i survived the great doc migration of 2017 and all i got was this lousy shirt"13:03
asettlestevemar: perfectooo13:03
asettledhellmann: who do we have to be annoying to to get a shirt made? :p13:03
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asettlepkovar dhellmann - have either of you had a look through the contrib guide lately? I think it's mostly cleaned up. But afraid I've just read it so much that it's all blurring13:13
dhellmannasettle, stevemar : t-shirts would be fun; you should do them!13:13
asettleI actually did ask Kendall about this a while back as a 'test the waters' type thing, but I haven't checked in since13:14
asettleI wonder if it's too late13:14
dhellmannasettle : I haven't. Do you think there's more to remove?13:14
asettledhellmann: I shouldn't think so. I know Andreas just removed two docs that weren't useful anymore, and I did edits on all the major pages.13:14
dhellmannok13:14
asettleJust a bit worried I've missed something... hmm13:14
dhellmannmaybe we can find someone on the team with fresher eyes to do a review?13:15
asettledhellmann: might be wise. Do we still want to combine this guide with the infra guide?13:15
dhellmannI'm not sure. maybe that's something to discuss on the ML?13:16
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asettleI might bring it up at the PTG actually, I'll add it to the list.13:17
asettleAlso, dhellmann how much of this is still applicable? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-future-problems13:17
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dhellmannthat is definitely a question to answer after we resolve the mission statement question13:18
asettleCoolio hoolio13:19
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pkovareumel8: please check your inbox ;13:34
pkovar)13:34
pkovarasettle: i plan to have a closer look at it next week13:35
asettleSure sure :)13:35
eumel8pkovar: ok13:36
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eumel8pkovar: I'm fine with that, thx. You can c&p on the etherpad :)13:46
pkovareumel8: excellent!13:49
pkovarty13:49
pkovareumel8: we might need to split during Tue, right?13:49
pkovareumel8: i take it as Policy Work Session is going to be i18n-specific13:50
eumel8pkovar: I think so, Tuesday morning is free for I18n13:51
pkovarokay13:51
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pkovarlet me update the etherpad13:51
eumel8+113:52
pkovarall: a very rough schedule is on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-queens14:03
pkovarplease review when you have time14:04
asettleThanks :)14:20
pkovarso we don't really have any deployment projects listed on https://docs.openstack.org/pike/projects.html14:29
pkovari assume thats because they dont branch for stable14:29
pkovarso they only appear on https://docs.openstack.org/queens/projects.html14:30
pkovarshould we set up redirects?14:30
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pkovarso that /pike goes to /latest14:30
pkovarEmilienM: that includes tripleo-docs14:30
pkovar^14:30
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EmilienMpkovar: I'm in a meeting right now, I'll catch-up later14:32
pkovarsure14:32
krtaylorpkovar, re: deployment - there are 2 listed here:14:33
krtaylorpkovar, I have just started looking at how to fix the kolla link14:33
pkovarkrtaylor: are you going to branch for pike?14:33
pkovari can only see stable/ocata14:34
pkovarbeing the latest stable14:34
krtaylorpkovar, I don't know yet, just started looking at kolla docs this week :)14:34
pkovari see!14:34
krtaylorit needs work, for sure, it is a hot topic for PTG14:35
pkovari know that tripleo-docs, for instance, don't branch, so we need a special setup there14:35
pkovarbut if kolla can branch, then we can update the pike.yaml file for pike so that the kolla link gets added to /pike/projects.html14:36
* krtaylor needs more info for branch in this context14:36
pkovars/branch/create a stable/pike branch/14:37
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pkovars/branch/create a stable\/pike branch/ :)14:37
krtaylorok, I think that should be doable, need to bring it up14:38
krtayloris the overall schedule for doc here-> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-queens14:38
dhellmannpkovar : those projects do branch, they just haven't branched yet14:38
dhellmannthey're cycle-trailing, so they run a slightly later schedule than the other projects14:38
pkovarwell, tripleo-docs doesn't afaik14:38
dhellmannit would be useful to have a way to include them in pike but point to latest14:38
dhellmannok, well, kolla does and a bunch of the other tripleo stuff does14:38
dhellmannbut if we're only linking to their docs, and those don't, then I don't know14:39
pkovaryeah, i was thinking that adding a hard-coded redirect could work (for tripleo-docs)14:39
pkovarkrtaylor: yes re: schedule14:40
dhellmannsure. another way to do it would be to treat those types of projects as special in the template and just always link to latest14:40
pkovarright...14:40
dhellmannthough that would assume none of them ever branch, and I don't know if that's true14:40
krtaylorre: schedule - is there a cross-project meeting mon/tues?14:42
krtayloretherpad, specifically14:42
dhellmannkrtaylor : what is it you're looking to talk about?14:43
krtaylorI want to link up schedules with kolla so we can be sure and have folks there14:43
dhellmannok. the docs team is going to be doing its planning most of the day monday14:43
dhellmannand tuesday, it seems14:43
dhellmannI think pkovar set aside time on wednesday to work with other teams14:44
dhellmannthough I might have some of that backwards -- the description for wednesday isn't clear "doc migration"14:44
krtaylorok, and I'll want to be at the template time on tues14:44
krtaylorthanks, that's close enough for now, I'll plan on spending some time Wed14:46
pkovarcool14:51
dhellmannpkovar : I found in my logs where you said wed was for working with other teams, so I updated the etherpad to clarify that14:51
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pkovardhellmann: thanks, that's correct14:51
pkovarWed is for doc migration team questions and help14:52
dhellmannthough looking at https://ttx.re/queens-ptg.html I wonder if we have that a bit backwards14:52
pkovarThu is for install guide, if there's interest14:52
dhellmannwe might want to swap wed and tue to give teams a help room on a day when they're not doing their own planning14:52
dhellmannmaybe ask ttx?14:53
dhellmannthis is different from atlanta, so I'm not sure what the intent is and I may have given you bad advice14:53
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pkovardhellmann: we can still do it, its just that we didn't ask the docs people about their availability on Wed because from the beginning we planned for Mon and Tue to go through the backlog14:54
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dhellmannyeah, true14:54
pkovarDocs / I18n helproom (#docs-i18n) sounds confusing though14:54
pabelangerGreeting! We are testing the new docs publishing jobs for zuulv3, and I would like to see if I could enable openstack-dev/sandbox to publish to https://docs.openstack.org/developer/sandbox. The docs would not be long term, and once confirmed the job is publishing properly, I would manually delete the contents and remove the publishing process from openstack-dev/sandbox14:55
dhellmannpabelanger : we don't publish to /developer/ any more14:56
dhellmannit should go to /sandbox/latest/14:56
dhellmannit would be good to have tests for a branch, too, so /sandbox/pike/ or whatever14:56
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Add support for sphinx sidebar role  https://review.openstack.org/49937314:58
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Remove stray characters from demo  https://review.openstack.org/49963014:58
pabelangerdhellmann: ah, I see. okay. I'll trim to sandbox, but how do you prevent namespace issues between openstack, openstack-infra, and openstack-dev?14:58
pabelangerI mean, infra is still https://docs.openstack.org/infra/zuul/14:58
dhellmannpabelanger : infra repos use different jobs for publishing14:59
dhellmanneverything else goes to /$project/$branch/14:59
dhellmannusing the unified publishing jobs14:59
dhellmannwe already have an implicit requirement that we not have repos with the same name in different namespaces, so we've been relying on that15:00
pabelangerdhellmann: understood, thanks15:01
dhellmannpabelanger : I hope that implicit rule holds :-)15:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: Relocate report_interval to agent section  https://review.openstack.org/49942015:02
pabelangerdhellmann: until we get to flatten namespace :)15:03
dhellmannwell at that point it's no longer implicit15:03
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Add support for sphinx sidebar role  https://review.openstack.org/49937315:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Remove stray characters from demo  https://review.openstack.org/49963015:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Add support for sphinx sidebar role  https://review.openstack.org/49937316:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [contributor] Remove obsolete workflows  https://review.openstack.org/49927516:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Rearrange the front page of upstream institute  https://review.openstack.org/49870119:01
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