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| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Update the configuration of generating a PDF document https://review.openstack.org/497006 | 04:24 |
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| asettle | ianychoi: you rang? :) | 08:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Update the configuration of generating a PDF document https://review.openstack.org/497006 | 09:12 |
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| vharsh | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/From_zero_to_ATC -> *How to identify people relevant in OpenStack development FIXME* Link's broken. | 10:52 |
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| vharsh | In https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security Link *OpenStack installation guide* points to "http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/" which redirects to "https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/" Is this okay ? | 10:52 |
| asettle | vharsh: lemme have a look | 10:53 |
| asettle | vharsh: I'm sure you can fix that first broken link :) | 10:53 |
| vharsh | asettle, Yes. I can, but I don;t know the right link. | 10:54 |
| vharsh | I'll try :) | 10:54 |
| asettle | I fixed up the security one | 10:54 |
| asettle | Now let's have a look at the first one :) | 10:54 |
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| asettle | vharsh: https://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/ | 10:55 |
| asettle | Have a look through here :) see what you can find | 10:55 |
| asettle | That's where all the training materials are | 10:55 |
| vharsh | Sure, I also found https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-training-exercises today :) I can't remember where. | 10:56 |
| asettle | vharsh: hahaa there's links everywhere, I'm not surprised :P | 10:56 |
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| vharsh | I also figured out very lately that devstack[ocata] is an ephemeral system, I used to go nuts when my devstack didn't respond to API calls/commands until I read a OpenStack Ask page. | 11:14 |
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| asettle | pkovar: okay, i've updated the meeting agenda | 13:07 |
| asettle | I'll host it this afternoon - but I will be juggling another meeting at the same time :) | 13:07 |
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| pkovar | asettle: thanks a lot | 13:08 |
| pkovar | i can help you chair the meeting if need be | 13:08 |
| asettle | That'd be helpful :) thank you | 13:09 |
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| ianychoi | asettle, hello! A u online now? :) | 14:50 |
| asettle | ianychoi: sure am | 14:50 |
| asettle | Why are you? :p | 14:50 |
| ianychoi | Haha | 14:50 |
| ianychoi | Oh some PDF generation problem - yes xelatex :) | 14:51 |
| asettle | ianychoi: ah, a patch went through yesterday(?) I think? | 14:52 |
| asettle | Did that break it? | 14:53 |
| ianychoi | asettle, morning I think :) No break - absolute fine! | 14:54 |
| asettle | Okay, so, what's the problemo? :) | 14:55 |
| ianychoi | No problem - just I have seen your ping which you made about 6 hours ago | 14:56 |
| ianychoi | Sorry for such interrupt - see you soon on Docs IRC meeting! | 14:57 |
| asettle | No probelm :) see you then | 15:00 |
| tbarron | manila doc migration patches are about to land on master; do we backport these to stable/pike? need to get them in for rc2? | 15:03 |
| tbarron | asettle: dhellmann ^^^ | 15:03 |
| tosky | I would say "yes, pike too", from what I remember, but let's the doc team speak :) | 15:03 |
| tbarron | sorry to be catching up on this late ... | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | yes, you should backport them. if those are the only changes, you don't need a new release candidate. | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | you can do a point release after the final deadline to have a tarball that includes docs, if you want, but we generally want release candidates to have changes that need to be tested | 15:04 |
| asettle | what dhellmann said :p | 15:04 |
| tbarron | dhellmann: asettle thanks | 15:05 |
| asettle | I know, I did so much | 15:05 |
| asettle | I'm so helpful :p | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | asettle : should we start an email thread with that info? | 15:05 |
| asettle | dhellmann: probably best. | 15:05 |
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| asettle | Docs team - reminder that the team meeting is in 20 minutes, in #openstack-doc | 15:40 |
| asettle | damnit | 15:40 |
| asettle | #openstack-meeting | 15:40 |
| asettle | One day I'll type a reminder correctly | 15:40 |
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| eumel8 | hello doc team :) | 15:50 |
| pkovar | eumel8: hi | 15:51 |
| pkovar | /me is heading to #openstack-meeting | 15:51 |
| eumel8 | hi pkovar | 15:51 |
| eumel8 | ok | 15:51 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, hi :) haha | 15:52 |
| eumel8 | hi ianychoi, nice to see you again ;) | 15:53 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, me too! | 15:53 |
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| eumel8 | I've setup a second check server. There are some trouble with the installation but it's already fixed from the osa team. | 15:55 |
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| asettle | Meeting in #openstack-meeting rn | 16:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add clarifying note about monitoring for branches during release https://review.openstack.org/497476 | 16:09 |
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| asettle | I gotta run o/ | 17:01 |
| asettle | I'll see you guys later! | 17:01 |
| asettle | Thanks pkovar :) | 17:01 |
| pkovar | asettle: thanks | 17:01 |
| dhellmann | pkovar, asettle : I'm going to need to find some lunch soon. Will you be around to talk to rluethi about testing? | 17:02 |
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| dhellmann | rluethi : o/ | 17:03 |
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| rluethi | dhellmann? | 17:05 |
| pkovar | dhellmann: rluethi: i am here, if you want to continue the discussion now | 17:05 |
| dhellmann | rluethi : you had a question? | 17:05 |
| pkovar | (06:59:31 PM) rluethi: Pike release is next Wednesday. I'd be interested to learn about plans for teesting. FWIW, I have a patch for an automated Pike training-labs based on the current state of the "install-guide". | 17:05 |
| pkovar | or, we can take it to the ml? | 17:06 |
| rluethi | Sure. openstack-dev? | 17:06 |
| pkovar | or that | 17:06 |
| pkovar | (i meant -doc) | 17:06 |
| rluethi | openstack-doc mailing list suits me, but I thought it was going to be merged with -dev!? | 17:06 |
| pkovar | rluethi: openstack-dev sounds better, sure | 17:07 |
| pkovar | merging was brought up as am idea, yes | 17:07 |
| pkovar | an, rather | 17:07 |
| rluethi | well, if -doc is still operational, I can start there. We can still take it to -dev if necessary. | 17:08 |
| pkovar | rluethi: super short answer would be... | 17:08 |
| pkovar | we currently don't have a plan re testing | 17:08 |
| pkovar | the idea was to move the content and responsibilities to project teams | 17:08 |
| rluethi | so who is going to make sure that the pieces fit together? | 17:09 |
| rluethi | that the various pieces don't diverge? | 17:09 |
| pkovar | rluethi: that's a great question | 17:09 |
| rluethi | there are quite a few interdependencies. | 17:09 |
| pkovar | i don't think we have an answer at this point | 17:09 |
| pkovar | rluethi: i agree we need to discuss this furhter | 17:10 |
| rluethi | I can tell you that it still works for Pike, mostly because nobody had the time (nor the motivation) to change much. | 17:10 |
| pkovar | right... | 17:10 |
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| pkovar | rluethi: the biggest pain point in the past was to find volunteers to test the procedures, not to organize them... | 17:11 |
| pkovar | that's my understanding anyway, feel free to correct me, asettle | 17:13 |
| rluethi | I was one of those volunteers. | 17:13 |
| rluethi | Testing everything has become more difficult than it was. | 17:13 |
| rluethi | The current install-guide is pretty much impossible to follow if you don't know what to do from previous releases. | 17:14 |
| pkovar | rluethi: yeah, i meant enough volunteers | 17:14 |
| pkovar | rluethi: so automation could be an answer here? | 17:14 |
| rluethi | I was hoping it might be. | 17:14 |
| rluethi | But it would take some effort to get there, and we are lacking resources. | 17:15 |
| rluethi | But the automation that we have is already helpful. | 17:15 |
| pkovar | i see | 17:16 |
| rluethi | It took me about a day to make all changes from Ocata to Pike for Ubuntu, including finding bugs and workarounds for Canonical's packaging issues. | 17:16 |
| rluethi | You can't do that manually in that time. | 17:17 |
| rluethi | I can now verify the Pike cluster installation instruction in about 15 minutes (automated build). | 17:18 |
| rluethi | I will try and file some bug reports. We'll see how that goes. | 17:18 |
| rluethi | And if anyone's interested in using our scripts, I'll clean them up and post them in the next couple of days. | 17:19 |
| rluethi | That's all. Gotta run. Let me know if you want to continue the conversation. | 17:20 |
| pkovar | rluethi: that would be great, thanks. thinking about it some more, i'd share them with the broader community at -dev | 17:20 |
| rluethi | k. | 17:21 |
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