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openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/api-site master: Adding load balancer (octavia) api-ref https://review.openstack.org/478685 | 00:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Jimmy McArthur proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Updated dropdown to align right and display overlay properly https://review.openstack.org/478694 | 02:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site master: Fix typos https://review.openstack.org/466211 | 05:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site master: QuickStart guide changes https://review.openstack.org/464301 | 05:11 |
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asettle | Morning docerinos | 09:02 |
AJaeger | morning, asettle ! | 09:05 |
AJaeger | asettle: could you put https://review.openstack.org/478483 on your review queue, please? That will help us moving forward... | 09:05 |
asettle | AJaeger: np :) feel free to just add me on the list if I'm not up early enough. | 09:06 |
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chason | asettle: Hey Alex! o/ | 09:40 |
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asettle | chason: morning pal o/ | 09:40 |
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chason | asettle: Hahah..Morning to you, afternoon to me. :p | 09:41 |
chason | Any idea about how do we handle the https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-rdo/environment-networking.html page? | 09:41 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Minimal support for storyboard https://review.openstack.org/478483 | 09:42 |
asettle | Oh yes sorry chason | 09:43 |
asettle | afternoon! | 09:43 |
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asettle | chason: so, I was actually thinking we just ask the neutron team if they want it. It might be worth it if Miguel takes a look, because it might just be duplicated content they already have. | 09:44 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adding octavia api-ref https://review.openstack.org/478686 | 09:47 |
chason | asettle: Duplicated content? OK, I will check it. | 09:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: remove content migrated to openstack/glance repo https://review.openstack.org/475388 | 09:48 |
asettle | chason: yeah, that the neutron team might not need it | 09:49 |
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asettle | AJaeger: could you take a look at this and tell me what crazy thing I'm missing? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475388/2 | 10:02 |
asettle | My comment explains my confusion | 10:02 |
AJaeger | asettle: check the exclude variable in doc/install-guide/source - and adjust | 10:03 |
AJaeger | asettle: check the exclude variable in doc/install-guide/source/conf.py - and adjust | 10:03 |
AJaeger | (ignore first line) | 10:03 |
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asettle | Oh, does it need to be *in* that exclude? | 10:06 |
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asettle | AJaeger: ^ | 10:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: remove content migrated to openstack/glance repo https://review.openstack.org/475388 | 11:06 |
amotoki | asettle: do we need to drop glossary which exists before the doc migration? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478388/ | 11:07 |
amotoki | asettle: the existing glossary in horizon provides less value, so I am not against dropping it, but I think it is not related to the doc migration effort. this is what I would like to clarify. | 11:08 |
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nishaYadav | o/ | 11:29 |
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nishaYadav | Can anyone please help me find the source of these docs - https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/config-reference/identity/config-options.html | 11:30 |
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asettle | nishaYadav: openstack-manuals repo https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals | 11:43 |
asettle | amotoki: sorry, went out for lunch | 11:44 |
asettle | Umm | 11:44 |
asettle | amotoki: no you don't need to drop the glossary that existed before the migration, especially if it already lived in the developer tree | 11:44 |
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AJaeger | amotoki: the spec has been updated, you should not include the glossary in neutron and remove the :term: ;( | 11:45 |
amotoki | asettle: thanks. we will keep it atm. the glossary in horizon needs to be revisit, but we think it would be useful for all types of documentation in horizon. | 11:46 |
asettle | amotoki: understandable :) | 11:46 |
amotoki | AJaeger: i know. what we now talk is on horizon patches. I also know the neutron glossary import was abandoned. | 11:47 |
nishaYadav | asettle, thanks. I am working on a patch that's related to newton. Do we have the code for all the releases in there? I haven't really worked before on updating docs of a previous release | 11:51 |
nishaYadav | asettle, I got this link from the keystone channel, but not ablel to make out much of it, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/doc/config-reference/source/identity/config-options.rst | 11:52 |
asettle | nishaYadav: we do indeed have the Newton docs there. You will have to update the Newton branch specfically. | 11:52 |
asettle | nishaYadav: so that's the source code: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/doc/config-reference/source/identity/config-options.rst | 11:53 |
asettle | YOu commit to documentation the same way you would commit to keystone | 11:53 |
asettle | Clone the repo, check out the newton branch, update the doc, push to gerrit | 11:53 |
nishaYadav | asettle, hmm, I will try that then | 11:55 |
asettle | nishaYadav: we have a contributor guide | 11:55 |
asettle | https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/ | 11:55 |
asettle | You should be able to use that to help yourself :) | 11:55 |
asettle | Keep in mind, we are not accepting patches to master at this time due to the doc migration | 11:55 |
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asettle | But updating a change in Newton is fine :) | 11:55 |
nishaYadav | asettle, I am bit confused about how to checkout to newton branch | 11:56 |
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asettle | nishaYadav: the same way you would check out any branch | 11:56 |
asettle | When you clone the openstack-manuals repo, there are release branches | 11:56 |
nishaYadav | asettle, yeah, I heard about the migration | 11:56 |
nishaYadav | hmm | 11:56 |
asettle | So, when you're on the master branch | 11:56 |
asettle | You need to execute: | 11:56 |
asettle | git checkout stable/newton | 11:56 |
asettle | Then you need to checkout a branch ON that stable branch | 11:57 |
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nishaYadav | asettle, ooh, got it now | 11:57 |
nishaYadav | asettle, thanks :D | 11:57 |
asettle | nishaYadav: yep :) it'll make a bit more sense once you work your way thorugh for hte first time ;) | 11:57 |
asettle | nishaYadav: if you're ever in doubt about what branch is available, when you look at the repo: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals | 11:57 |
asettle | you'll see Branch: master | 11:57 |
asettle | And a drop down | 11:57 |
asettle | Click that, and you'll see the branches and tags :) | 11:57 |
nishaYadav | asettle, woah, that'll be so useful | 11:58 |
asettle | nishaYadav: I know, it's like magic | 11:58 |
asettle | (sorta not really) | 11:58 |
asettle | Keep in mind that Mitaka is currently EOL :) so we are not developing on that branch | 11:59 |
nishaYadav | asettle, I wonder why I never checked that before. | 11:59 |
asettle | nishaYadav: one of those things :P i'm pretty sure I never checked out another branch for like, the first 18 months of working on OpenStack? | 11:59 |
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nishaYadav | asettle, hehe, there's always a good time & a good person ;) | 12:01 |
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asettle | AJaeger had a lot of patience with me :p | 12:02 |
nishaYadav | hehe :D | 12:03 |
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asettle | ping if you have any questions, nishaYadav :) | 12:11 |
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nishaYadav | asettle, thanks :D | 12:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Ritesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Install and configure in Installation Guide: Populate the Identity service database step fails on CentOS7 https://review.openstack.org/478899 | 12:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Add trainers' guide to the web page https://review.openstack.org/477817 | 13:27 |
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sfinucan | AJaeger, asettle: Forgive me for the being out of the loop with this, but what's happening with glossaries? | 13:47 |
sfinucan | Can we add per-project ones, or is there only a single one? | 13:47 |
* sfinucan is firmly for the latter, fwiw :) | 13:48 | |
dhellmann | sfinucan : I think they decided to just keep 1 glossary in the openstack-manuals repo | 13:51 |
sfinucan | dhellmann: Know if the reason for that noted anywhere? (Google's giving me nothing) | 13:51 |
dhellmann | it was discussed here in this channel this week | 13:52 |
dhellmann | IIRC, the reason was the difficulty of keeping multiple glossaries in sync | 13:52 |
dhellmann | if a project already has a glossary, it should be OK to keep that | 13:52 |
sfinucan | Ah, I'll go check eavesdrop | 13:52 |
dhellmann | but we removed the step for copying the glossary into projects as part of the migration | 13:52 |
sfinucan | I don't necessarily think they need to be synced. The context/level of detail needed between projects varies hugely | 13:53 |
sfinucan | But now I know not to -1 doc-rework patches for removing ':term:' definitions | 13:53 |
dhellmann | yeah, my original intent was just to copy the parts that were needed, but for expedience I suggested copying the whole thing and cleaning it up as a separate step | 13:54 |
sfinucan | Hmm, I might request that if it's not expressly forbidden | 13:54 |
AJaeger | sfinucan: if we find a version to reuse our central glossary in builds, it would be great. I just don't want it to copy to 100s of repos and keep in sync... | 13:55 |
dhellmann | AJaeger : syncing was never the proposal | 13:55 |
AJaeger | sfinucan: the spec has been updated | 13:55 |
dhellmann | copy whole for speed, then cleanup later | 13:55 |
asettle | I'm fairly against the whole 'clean up later' idea. Simply because we keep assigning work to teams when we're already dumping large amounts of work on them to begin with. | 13:58 |
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sfinucan | dhellmann: Could we use http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/ext/intersphinx.html ? | 14:02 |
sfinucan | so we can preserve ':term:' linking. I'd still rather separate glossaries, but I appreciate the effort involved there | 14:03 |
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dhellmann | sfinucan : I think intersphinx works with :ref: doesn't it? | 14:07 |
sfinucan | from the docs, it works with any kind of reference | 14:07 |
sfinucan | including the likes of :py:mod: | 14:08 |
sfinucan | ...though I've yet to test it | 14:08 |
dhellmann | personally, this is not something I care about. I agree it would be useful to solve, but I am much more concerned with getting the other parts moved before the next milestone, and the RC1 date at the very latest | 14:08 |
dhellmann | great, that may be something to investigate | 14:08 |
sfinucan | true that | 14:08 |
dhellmann | if you want to do that now, ok. Or you could add it to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-future-problems | 14:08 |
dhellmann | sfinucan : we also have to consider how those external references work for distros that package the docs | 14:08 |
dhellmann | AJaeger, asettle : I think I have the repo list pared down so that https://doughellmann.com/doc-migration/ is showing accurate data now | 14:10 |
AJaeger | great, dhellmann | 14:11 |
nishaYadav | asettle, I cloned the openstack-manuals. But when I did git branch I only see master and when I did git checkout stable/newton I get an error saying, pathspec 'stable/newton/ did not match any files known to git | 14:11 |
nishaYadav | asettle, should I be using the command git clone --branch stable/newton <URL> instead to clone the desired branch? | 14:12 |
asettle | dhellmann: great stuff :) thanks. | 14:12 |
dhellmann | asettle , AJaeger : now we just need to get folks to help us drive those graphs to 0 | 14:13 |
dhellmann | :-) | 14:13 |
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AJaeger | dhellmann: I've took barbican - but my plate is full, so don't expect miracles from me. | 14:13 |
asettle | nishaYadav: no, I don't see why you'd have to do that. But I mean, go ahead, I don't see why it wouldn't work. | 14:14 |
asettle | Lemme check something for you | 14:14 |
nishaYadav | asettle, so you mean to say when we clone any repo using git clone command, all the branches must be present/downloaded by default? | 14:15 |
asettle | nishaYadav: yes | 14:15 |
AJaeger | nishaYadav: yes. | 14:15 |
AJaeger | nishaYadav: Run "git branch -a" to see remote branches as well | 14:16 |
asettle | nishaYadav: try "git checkout origin/stable/newton" | 14:16 |
nishaYadav | asettle, AJaeger hmm, I have used git branch command often, but I have never before seen any branches other than master or the ones I created | 14:16 |
asettle | Then it should ask you to create a branch :) | 14:16 |
nishaYadav | AJaeger, asettle thanks I will run both and get back | 14:17 |
asettle | It'll say something like "Note: checking out origin/stable/newton" and then it'll say you're in a detached head state | 14:17 |
AJaeger | nishaYadav: git branch shows only local branches. Add "-a" to get they others | 14:17 |
asettle | Then create a new branch :) | 14:17 |
AJaeger | or run "git checkout --track origin/stable/newton" | 14:17 |
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nishaYadav | AJaeger, thanks saw the other branches now using -a | 14:18 |
nishaYadav | AJaeger, can you please tell me why --track is required in above command? | 14:19 |
asettle | nishaYadav: -t, --track set upstream info for new branch | 14:20 |
nishaYadav | oh :) | 14:21 |
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nishaYadav | asettle, AJaeger thanks a lot for helping me understand :) | 14:22 |
asettle | *thumbs up* | 14:23 |
asettle | Happy to help | 14:23 |
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asettle | annegentle: I like the little drop down menu | 14:39 |
asettle | That's cool | 14:39 |
annegentle | asettle cool | 14:39 |
annegentle | asettle me too, trying to get it working! | 14:40 |
asettle | Yeah :D thanks so much for putting the effort into this, really appreciate it! | 14:40 |
asettle | It's good you can get some Foundation help | 14:40 |
openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adds list of versions in the "Updated" bar https://review.openstack.org/477639 | 14:43 |
annegentle | asettle let's see if that does it | 14:43 |
asettle | Standing by for the build! D | 14:43 |
asettle | :D * | 14:43 |
annegentle | asettle couldn't do it without a real webdev, geez | 14:43 |
asettle | Web devs knowwwww | 14:43 |
annegentle | asettle still doesn't work for me locally | 14:44 |
annegentle | asettle sidebar div goes away, who knows where? | 14:44 |
asettle | Did you say something mean to the side bar div? | 14:48 |
asettle | Just asking. | 14:48 |
asettle | IN case. | 14:48 |
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nishaYadav | asettle, I hope I not bothering much. I was wondering that when I run tox -e docs does it run all the individual tests like checkbuild, checkniceness etc? | 15:02 |
asettle | Yes :) | 15:03 |
asettle | It'll build every doc in the repo though | 15:03 |
asettle | So, I'd recommend running tox -e docs build config-ref or whatever | 15:03 |
nishaYadav | asettle, oh, that must save time :) | 15:03 |
asettle | hahaha yeah a lot of time | 15:04 |
asettle | Sorry, just | 15:04 |
asettle | tox -e build -- config-ref | 15:04 |
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nishaYadav | asettle, oh, cool :) | 15:06 |
asettle | Ya \o/ | 15:07 |
nishaYadav | :D | 15:07 |
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asettle | For those attending the docs meeting in 45 minutes: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting#Documentation_team_meeting | 15:17 |
asettle | Meeting to be held in #openstack-meeting at 1600 | 15:17 |
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AJaeger | asettle: thanks for meeting heads-up. I'll try to attend but have another meeting and need to leave afterwards. But I joined the channel already ;) | 15:28 |
asettle | No sweat :) it's more or less going to be an open floor for anyone that wants to come and chat about doc migration stuff | 15:29 |
nishaYadav | I will like to attend :D | 15:29 |
asettle | nishaYadav: sounds good :) | 15:30 |
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asettle | annegentle: hm, so I just saw the patch build | 15:45 |
asettle | No changes. Weird. | 15:45 |
asettle | Ah, update from jimmy | 15:46 |
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amotoki | when it the right timing to switch server-publish-job to unified job? individual project teams can propose it, but I wonder when we should do it. | 15:55 |
amotoki | Related to this, when a redirect for /developer/<project> will be setup or already setup? I would like to avoid the link breakage for readers. | 15:56 |
AJaeger | amotoki: we have done it so far whenever projects imported our content and move to new structure | 15:56 |
AJaeger | amotoki: we= dhellmann | 15:57 |
dhellmann | we want the publishing jobs to land before the redirects | 15:57 |
dhellmann | so that the redirects have something to point to :-) | 15:57 |
dhellmann | so as soon as the content is reorganized in a repo, the publishing job should be ok to land | 15:57 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: we could do a mass change - what do you think? | 15:58 |
dhellmann | we are going to land the redirects as part of my series of patches to openstack-manuals early next week | 15:58 |
asettle | \o/ | 15:58 |
AJaeger | There's AFAIK no reason not to do it *now* - or what do I miss? | 15:58 |
AJaeger | (besides that we need to add the redirects) | 15:58 |
dhellmann | AJaeger : yeah, next week after we give teams a chance to do it on their own | 15:58 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: ok | 15:58 |
dhellmann | I'm hoping to get teams to feel a sense of ownership by doing some of the work themselves | 15:58 |
dhellmann | but we won't let it linger | 15:58 |
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amotoki | AJaeger: dhellmann: so is it better we (project teams) focus on landing the new structure in project repos. | 15:59 |
dhellmann | amotoki : we outlined the steps that project teams need to follow in the spec. | 15:59 |
AJaeger | amotoki: so, go ahead , please | 16:00 |
asettle | Meeting in #openstack-doc now :) | 16:00 |
asettle | oh ffs | 16:00 |
asettle | openstack-meeting * | 16:00 |
amotoki | dhellmann: yes, I have read it. thanks. | 16:01 |
atheneum | how to join meeting? | 16:01 |
asettle | atheneum: join the #openstack-meeting channel | 16:02 |
AJaeger | atheneum: /join #openstack-meeting | 16:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adds list of versions in the "Updated" bar https://review.openstack.org/477639 | 17:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Nisha Yadav proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/newton: Document AD nested groups support in keystone https://review.openstack.org/479008 | 17:13 |
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nishaYadav | asettle, unfortunately my internet wasn't working. I will scroll through the logs of the meeting. | 17:18 |
nishaYadav | asettle, I just uploaded the patch, in case you around would like you to review it ^ | 17:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Change name of checkbuild testenv to buildpdf for clarity https://review.openstack.org/479032 | 18:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Change name of checkbuild testenv to buildpdf for clarity https://review.openstack.org/479032 | 18:56 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals stable/newton: Document AD nested groups support in keystone https://review.openstack.org/479008 | 19:02 |
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AJaeger | dhellmann, asettle, annegentle : openstackdocstheme uses "openstack-manuals" if bug_project is not set. Should we error out instead if it is not set? I don't want everybody file bugs against openstack-manuals ;) | 19:40 |
annegentle | yeah I can change to tools AJaeger ? | 19:41 |
dhellmann | AJaeger: do you mean make the theme fail the build if that option is not set? | 19:41 |
AJaeger | yes, let the theme fail the build if it is not set | 19:41 |
dhellmann | an alternative would be to not show the bug link | 19:41 |
dhellmann | that way we don't break a bunch of builds | 19:41 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: yes, that's the other option. Any preferences from those listening in? | 19:42 |
dhellmann | put me down as 1 vote for silently dropping the bug link | 19:43 |
AJaeger | done | 19:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: remove networking guide https://review.openstack.org/478188 | 20:00 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add redirects from docs.o.o/project/ to the latest build https://review.openstack.org/478189 | 20:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Require bug_project setting https://review.openstack.org/479050 | 20:11 |
AJaeger | dhellmann: implemented and tested ^ | 20:11 |
* AJaeger will add releasenote now | 20:12 | |
dhellmann | AJaeger : +2 | 20:12 |
AJaeger | you're too quick ;) | 20:13 |
openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Require bug_project setting https://review.openstack.org/479050 | 20:13 |
openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Always set bug_project https://review.openstack.org/479051 | 20:18 |
AJaeger | dhellmann, asettle, we need both changes above ^ | 20:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Change name of checkbuild testenv to buildpdf for clarity https://review.openstack.org/479032 | 20:22 |
dhellmann | AJaeger : o/ | 20:30 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Change name of checkbuild testenv to buildpdf for clarity https://review.openstack.org/479032 | 20:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adds list of versions in the "Updated" bar https://review.openstack.org/477639 | 22:14 |
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amotoki | AJaeger: question on the location where i18n guide should be published in the new doc setup. According to the doc spec, /i18n/latest/ is the right place? or just /i18n/? | 22:34 |
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