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openstackgerrit | zhongshengping proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix typo https://review.openstack.org/468631 | 00:52 |
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openstackgerrit | caoyuan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update the "nova service-disable" to "openstack" command https://review.openstack.org/468915 | 01:44 |
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openstackgerrit | jimmygc proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Remove redundant space https://review.openstack.org/469313 | 02:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Wang proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Unity: add create image from volume https://review.openstack.org/469316 | 03:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Ben Silverman proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [arch-guide] Adding arch guidance to storage design https://review.openstack.org/463098 | 03:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Ben Silverman proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [arch-guide] Adding arch guidance to storage design https://review.openstack.org/463098 | 04:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Remove redundant space https://review.openstack.org/469313 | 05:06 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix typo https://review.openstack.org/468631 | 05:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix glance api_servers configuration https://review.openstack.org/466993 | 06:22 |
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openstackgerrit | jimmygc proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update compute VMware config guide https://review.openstack.org/469357 | 07:30 |
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openstackgerrit | jimmygc proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: update admin networking-plugin guide https://review.openstack.org/469374 | 08:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [cli-ref] Update python-cinderclient to 2.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/469402 | 09:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [cli-ref] Update python-neutronclient to instead. 6.3.0 https://review.openstack.org/469409 | 10:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: deprecate ceilometer api https://review.openstack.org/468888 | 10:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [cli-ref] Update neutron-sanity-check to 10.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/469430 | 11:05 |
openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [cli-ref] Update python-neutronclient to 6.3.0 https://review.openstack.org/469409 | 11:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Digvijay Ukirde proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update Spectrum Scale (GPFS) share driver doc https://review.openstack.org/469453 | 12:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Unity: add create image from volume https://review.openstack.org/469316 | 13:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Petr Kovar proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: [install] Fix the broken link for compute overview https://review.openstack.org/469479 | 13:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Omkar Telee proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Updated transport_url details for RabbitMQ HA https://review.openstack.org/468791 | 13:37 |
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amotoki | hi, I would like to add a deprecation notice to neutron CLI reference, but the CLI reference is generated by doc-tool. what is the recommended way to add a deprecation warnings? | 13:57 |
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asettle | amotoki: where do you want to put it, sorry? :) | 14:16 |
asettle | Just usually needs a "deprecated as of $RELEASE" | 14:16 |
amotoki | asettle: I would like to put some deprecation warnings to https://docs.openstack.org/cli-reference/neutron.html | 14:16 |
asettle | ^^ | 14:16 |
amotoki | asettle: looking at os-doc-tools, it seems i need to change the code to add some warning. | 14:17 |
asettle | Yes, so you'll need to add it to the neutron code, and then run the scripts to update the docs | 14:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Wang proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: Unity: add create image from volume https://review.openstack.org/469509 | 14:19 |
amotoki | asettle: do you mean I need to add some message to neutronclient code? neutron CLI already says "neutron CLI is deprecated and will be removed in the future. Use openstack CLI instead" every time the command is used, but there is no such message in the help. | 14:20 |
amotoki | asettle: it is a deprecation of 'neutron' CLI itself. it is not a deprecation of some option or command. | 14:20 |
amotoki | so I would like to add some clear message in the manual. | 14:21 |
asettle | Hmm that's a good question. | 14:21 |
asettle | I admit, I don't understand the CLI guide all that well | 14:21 |
amotoki | asettle: no problem. | 14:21 |
asettle | amotoki: you know | 14:22 |
asettle | I think it might be a good idea | 14:22 |
amotoki | asettle: it is completely generated by os-doc-tool | 14:22 |
asettle | To add a note in the actual networking.rst file in the cli-reference guide | 14:22 |
asettle | Rather than from the generated tools | 14:22 |
amotoki | asettle: thanks. will investigate os-doc-tool a bit more to explore the approach. | 14:24 |
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asettle | Sounds good :) | 14:25 |
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openstackgerrit | caoyuan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Remove the unnecessary "“”" for app-usecases.rst https://review.openstack.org/469521 | 14:48 |
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AJaeger | asettle, amotoki : Why not remove the neutron command from the cli? | 14:52 |
AJaeger | asettle, amotoki see also https://docs.openstack.org/cli-reference/ - and how sahara is handled | 14:52 |
amotoki | AJaeger: yes, it is an option. many users who use the past releases still use 'neutron' CLI, so I think it is better to keep it. | 14:53 |
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amotoki | OSC network commands provide feature compat and I believe it work for most cases. | 14:54 |
amotoki | but i think it is too early to drop it. | 14:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Gaurang Tapase proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update Spectrum Scale (GPFS) volume driver doc https://review.openstack.org/469105 | 15:15 |
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pkovar | amotoki: you could hard-code the deprecation message somewhere in https://github.com/openstack/openstack-doc-tools/blob/master/os_doc_tools/commands.py | 16:00 |
pkovar | amotoki: look at https://github.com/openstack/openstack-doc-tools/blob/master/os_doc_tools/commands.py#L103 | 16:01 |
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pkovar | heat already does it, it seems | 16:01 |
amotoki | pkovar: yeah, I can do that. thanks | 16:01 |
pkovar | np. will gladly review :) | 16:02 |
amotoki | pkovar: honestly I am thinking more than that. recently cliff (cli framework) introduces a useful sphinx directive which renders command help | 16:02 |
amotoki | pkovar: it allows us not to use os-doc-tools and we can just have a rst file. | 16:03 |
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amotoki | i am looking into the detail now | 16:03 |
pkovar | sounds cool | 16:03 |
amotoki | it is a nice feature though we can use this for CLIs which use cliff like osc, neutron or some | 16:05 |
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sfinucan | amotoki, AJaeger, asettle: Wading into this, the cli is only deprecated - not removed yet | 16:10 |
sfinucan | So we probably shouldn't be removing anything quite yet | 16:10 |
sfinucan | Next cycle, for sure, assuming the CLI aspects of python-neutronclient go away | 16:11 |
sfinucan | amotoki: Regarding the sphinx directive, I wrote it ;) We're planning to start using this for CLI guide but that necessitates moving said guide to the individual projects | 16:11 |
sfinucan | There are also some CLIs that don't use cliff (python-novaclient) and that will need to continue handwriting docs, sadly :( | 16:12 |
amotoki | sfinucan: as my neutron team hat, neutron CLI is deprecated but it still will be kept for next couple of releases. | 16:12 |
amotoki | sfinucan: i know. not all (more than half?) CLIs do not use cliff. | 16:12 |
sfinucan | amotoki: right, then the CLI guide docs should definitely be kept, IMO | 16:12 |
amotoki | sfinucan: totally agree. this is my point too | 16:13 |
* sfinucan indexed the ones that did a few weeks back, but doesn't know what he did with said list | 16:13 | |
* sfinucan also looked into converting python-novaclient to cliff, then remembered he didn't hate his life :P | 16:13 | |
sfinucan | amotoki: then yeah, deprecation notice as suggested. However, the moment that those CLIs are no longer supported, we should kick the docs out | 16:14 |
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sfinucan | the docs will continue to be available for older versions, of course | 16:14 |
amotoki | sfinucan: the policy sounds good. btw, the cli ref is not versioned, so i wonder how the older versions of docs continue to be available. | 16:16 |
sfinucan | amotoki: Really? | 16:17 |
* sfinucan checks | 16:17 | |
sfinucan | amotoki: Aha, right you are. How odd | 16:18 |
sfinucan | ...especially given that the config reference is versioned | 16:18 |
amotoki | it is a difficult balance between availability and maintenance cost | 16:19 |
sfinucan | We should probably fix that, however, we're planning some major overhauls in how the docs are built and maintained so we should probably wait to see how that works out | 16:19 |
amotoki | at now, install guide, config guide and networking guide are versioned. | 16:19 |
sfinucan | fwiw, the python-openstackclient docs are also unversioned https://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-openstackclient/command-list.html | 16:20 |
sfinucan | amotoki: Yeah, that will continue to be the case, afaik | 16:20 |
sfinucan | we could probably drag in cli to that too. All in good time | 16:20 |
amotoki | yes, osc doc is not versioned. it is from the heart that OSC should work with all versions ideally | 16:21 |
sfinucan | or if everyone would just switch to python-openstackclient plugins like they said they would :) | 16:21 |
amotoki | if so, perhaps we need to collect command references of openstackclient plugins then | 16:22 |
sfinucan | amotoki: Sounds like it would be easy to do | 16:27 |
sfinucan | in fact, I think the openstackclient docs already do this in some manner | 16:28 |
amotoki | yes, the osc docs do this to some extent. there is a list of plugin commands. it is generated automatically | 16:29 |
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pkovar | sfinucan: btw, do you happen to know why diff_branches.py is failing on missing openstack.common.apiclient? some unsatisfied req? | 16:34 |
sfinucan | pkovar: Not a clue, I'm afraid. That whole tool is a royal PITA | 16:35 |
sfinucan | what project? | 16:35 |
pkovar | haha, yeah | 16:35 |
pkovar | sahara | 16:35 |
pkovar | actually, i had to install some missing packages directly in the venv | 16:35 |
pkovar | worked for others, but this openstack.common.apiclient stopped me | 16:35 |
sfinucan | Hmm | 16:39 |
sfinucan | Yeah, I can't help, sadly | 16:39 |
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pkovar | well, will update the other tables, at least :) | 16:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Petr Kovar proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: [config-reference] Update config tables for sahara https://review.openstack.org/469580 | 16:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: [install] Fix the broken link for compute overview https://review.openstack.org/469479 | 17:05 |
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bsilverman_ | Didn’t we unit test the Ocata ubuntu install guide recently? | 17:46 |
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annegentle | bsilverman_ if by user test you mean have users test, yes. | 18:43 |
annegentle | er, unit test | 18:43 |
annegentle | bsilverman_ say more | 18:43 |
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bsilverman_ | annegentle: just noticed bugs this week that said that install could not be completed as written, would have figured our user tests would have failed in the same way. | 19:28 |
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annegentle | bsilverman_ yeah at this point in time it's usually user error and try to triage the bugs as that... | 19:30 |
annegentle | bsilverman_ because I think enough tests have been run by now | 19:30 |
annegentle | bsilverman_ was making sure there wasn't some scripted test still running :) | 19:31 |
bsilverman_ | anngentle: okay, thanks. | 19:31 |
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