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| asettle | Morning o/ | 10:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | NidhiMittalHada proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Incorrect case, parenthesis & periods in CLI Guide https://review.openstack.org/460485 | 10:05 |
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| mpranjic | asettle: morning :) | 10:23 |
| asettle | o/ | 10:23 |
| mpranjic | what's up? | 10:23 |
| asettle | Not a lot.. reading. | 10:23 |
| asettle | YOu? | 10:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [contrib-guide] Guidelines for docs:follows-policy https://review.openstack.org/453642 | 10:23 |
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| mpranjic | asettle: we are pushing some new integration services and are pretty much in Ansible up to the neck these days :) | 10:28 |
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| asettle | Sweet mpranjic :) | 10:28 |
| asettle | Sounds good | 10:28 |
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| mpranjic | asettle: started to do OAS prep automationo for andymccr but still not finished... | 10:29 |
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| mpranjic | asettle: we need an Ansible flag here :) | 10:29 |
| asettle | Hhaha ahhh, he'll be around to help. I just know he's doing a bunch of stuff for the summit at the mo | 10:29 |
| asettle | LOL mpranjic | 10:32 |
| asettle | I'll pass that onto Andy | 10:32 |
| mpranjic | asettle: sure :) | 10:33 |
| mpranjic | we have that on our wall right now :) | 10:33 |
| mpranjic | we are the team of 5 and Ansible is what we do 90% of the time :) | 10:33 |
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| asettle | Hahha that's pretty great. | 10:35 |
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| asettle | aspiers: hellooooo pallllllll - I need a big ass favour. | 10:48 |
| aspiers | uh-oh :) | 10:49 |
| aspiers | I'm not taking over as docs PTL | 10:49 |
| asettle | Uh oh indeed pal. | 10:49 |
| asettle | Hahhahahaha | 10:49 |
| aspiers | ;-) | 10:49 |
| asettle | Jeez. | 10:49 |
| aspiers | I'll say that right now | 10:49 |
| asettle | No funny business with you hey | 10:50 |
| asettle | Okay, no, that's not the favour | 10:50 |
| asettle | I've just got a very big stick here, and I'm going to poke you with it. Could you pretty please document the reno stuff in the contrib guide? We kinda need it for the project update stuff. | 10:50 |
| asettle | I'll buy you a beer if you do it like, this week. | 10:50 |
| aspiers | haha | 10:50 |
| aspiers | when do you arrive in Boston? | 10:50 |
| asettle | Uhhh Saturday night, you? | 10:50 |
| asettle | Should I bring my stick? | 10:50 |
| aspiers | this Sat? | 10:50 |
| aspiers | I'm flying tomorrow | 10:50 |
| asettle | Nope. Saturday the 6th :) | 10:51 |
| asettle | Ah that's right, you holiday | 10:51 |
| aspiers | hah, sadly that's looking unlikely | 10:51 |
| asettle | Fantastic! Can you update it today :) | 10:51 |
| aspiers | 2 prsentations still to prepare | 10:51 |
| asettle | Ughhh dude we need it. | 10:51 |
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| aspiers | I mean the holiday's looking unlikely | 10:51 |
| asettle | OH right. | 10:51 |
| asettle | That's sad :( | 10:51 |
| aspiers | yeah well | 10:51 |
| asettle | You shouldn't have so many presentations. | 10:52 |
| asettle | How dare you do things. | 10:52 |
| aspiers | I'll take the evenings and weekends at least | 10:52 |
| aspiers | I submitted 3 hoping to get 1 accepted ... | 10:52 |
| aspiers | it's always a gamble | 10:52 |
| aspiers | when do you need the reno docs by? | 10:52 |
| aspiers | i.e. what's the longest I can stall it? | 10:52 |
| asettle | Uhhhh I'd love it by the end of this week. But if you could make it happen preferably next week, that'd be exxxceeellennntttt | 10:55 |
| asettle | :D | 10:55 |
| asettle | I'll buy you two beers if this week, one beer if next week ;) | 10:56 |
| asettle | What a great deal. | 10:56 |
| asettle | aspiers: basically, we want to make a video tutorial on how reno release notes work for documentation. | 10:57 |
| asettle | And the instructions would be *excellent* | 10:58 |
| aspiers | OK sounds cool | 10:58 |
| aspiers | when do you want the video for? | 10:58 |
| asettle | Project update for hte summit. | 10:58 |
| asettle | Olga is making it. But she is asking for your instructions and I'm just like :/ | 10:58 |
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| aspiers | oh ok | 10:59 |
| aspiers | shite | 10:59 |
| aspiers | can you point me to the file / section where it should go? | 10:59 |
| asettle | You can put it in here: https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/doc-tools.html | 11:00 |
| asettle | But I would recommend that you make a whole new top level section called "Reno release notes" | 11:00 |
| asettle | Or, update: https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/release/taskdetail.html#release-notes | 11:00 |
| asettle | Actually that's probably best | 11:00 |
| asettle | update that | 11:00 |
| aspiers | the instructions are specifically different for docs release notes though | 11:01 |
| aspiers | do you need them for docs relnotes or relnotes in general? | 11:01 |
| asettle | docs relnotes. | 11:01 |
| aspiers | I note that reno is not documented at all in the manuals :-/ | 11:02 |
| asettle | aspiers: yep. It isn't. We haven't had reno before. | 11:02 |
| aspiers | although reno docs aren't too bad | 11:02 |
| asettle | We used to do it manually. | 11:02 |
| asettle | I reckon link to the reno docs. And then a little instruction on how you proposed to do each of the guides individually | 11:02 |
| aspiers | but isn't the contributor guide for all projects not just docs? | 11:02 |
| asettle | It realyl doesn't need to be much | 11:02 |
| asettle | aspiers: no, this is the docs contributor guide | 11:02 |
| aspiers | oh | 11:03 |
| asettle | :) | 11:03 |
| aspiers | is there a non-docs contrib guide? | 11:03 |
| asettle | For developers, yes? https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html | 11:03 |
| aspiers | that's kind of confusing | 11:04 |
| aspiers | developer's guide in infra, but doc contrib guide in openstack-manuals | 11:04 |
| aspiers | hmm | 11:04 |
| asettle | Yerp. | 11:04 |
| asettle | But these reno release notes that you and I are talking about is specifically for openstack-manuals | 11:04 |
| asettle | The reno notes were already in place for the dev projects. | 11:04 |
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| aspiers | Yes but it should still be documented for newcomers to dev projects | 11:05 |
| aspiers | but OK that's a separate issue | 11:05 |
| asettle | Yeah, it is separate. Plus, most of the projects document it in their docs.o.o/dev/PROJECT docs | 11:05 |
| asettle | Not in the infra manual | 11:05 |
| asettle | Go figure | 11:05 |
| aspiers | also infra-manual/doc/source/developers.rst doesn't link to doc contributor's guide? | 11:05 |
| asettle | No, it doesn't. | 11:06 |
| aspiers | shouldn't it? | 11:06 |
| asettle | It's a developers guide. We're a documentation guide. I mean, sure, we can. We link to the infra manual from our contributor guide... but admittedly there hasn't been too much reason to do so. | 11:06 |
| asettle | You think that would be helpful?> | 11:06 |
| aspiers | well, don't we want to encourage devs to also contribute to docs? | 11:07 |
| asettle | We do, we do. I'll look into it :) | 11:07 |
| asettle | Cheers | 11:07 |
| aspiers | :) | 11:07 |
| asettle | Does that make a bit more sense now? | 11:07 |
| asettle | Sorry for all the confusion. | 11:07 |
| aspiers | Yes it does ta! | 11:07 |
| asettle | Thanks so much aspiers :D | 11:07 |
| aspiers | asettle: so is this the bit which needs changing? https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blame/master/doc/contributor-guide/source/release/taskdetail.rst#L58 | 11:12 |
| aspiers | and is it worth creating a new section? | 11:12 |
| AJaeger | aspiers, aspiers : For reno, there is documentation elsewhere - does that not work? Let me grab a link... | 11:29 |
| AJaeger | aspiers, asettle: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/usage.html#creating-new-release-notes | 11:30 |
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| AJaeger | and we have https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#managing-release-notes | 11:31 |
| AJaeger | IMHO, https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#how-to-add-new-release-notes should be enough as documentation for adding new relesae notes, so just link to that section | 11:31 |
| AJaeger | aspiers: I would add it elsewhere - your link is for the release manager page. With reno, we should document while updating what's new. | 11:32 |
| asettle | aspiers: did AJaeger answer all your qiestions? | 11:35 |
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| AJaeger | asettle: I would add reno information to https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/writing-docs.html | 11:42 |
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| asettle | Should we them remove the content in https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/release/taskdetail.html#release-notes and point it to https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/writing-docs.html ? | 11:43 |
| asettle | then* | 11:43 |
| aspiers | AJaeger: no, there are specific differences in using reno with the doc contributor guide | 11:44 |
| aspiers | the sections are different | 11:44 |
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| AJaeger | aspiers: still, the work flow should be the same. | 11:45 |
| AJaeger | aspiers: yes, I would remove that then. | 11:45 |
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| asettle | Work flow, yes. AJaeger I was suggesting to aspiers that we link to the reno docs, and then in the contributor guide discuss the specifics of the doc process. | 11:45 |
| AJaeger | aspiers: Let's not duplicate stuff | 11:45 |
| asettle | AJaeger: do you mean to tag me? | 11:46 |
| aspiers | I'm not proposing to duplicate anything | 11:46 |
| AJaeger | asettle: your suggestion sounds fine. | 11:46 |
| asettle | Cool. aspiers carry on :) | 11:46 |
| asettle | Please :) | 11:46 |
| AJaeger | aspiers: good, then looking forward to the change ;) | 11:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/api-site master: Match logo and header to www https://review.openstack.org/460647 | 15:38 |
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| annegentle | If someone has a moment, easy review of https://review.openstack.org/460647 to match the header/logo on www | 17:02 |
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