Wednesday, 2017-04-19

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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/training-guides master: Add Ref slide for howitsmade-official-projects  https://review.openstack.org/45782801:03
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openstackgerritjimmygc proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix glance vmware backend doc  https://review.openstack.org/45720101:14
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openstackgerritjimmygc proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix glance vmware backend doc  https://review.openstack.org/45720101:22
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openstackgerritJoseph Robinson proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix glance vmware backend doc  https://review.openstack.org/45720101:50
openstackgerritzhangguoning proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin guide] Configure Compute service groups - Formatting of alignment  https://review.openstack.org/45783601:53
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mpranjicmorning07:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Fix glance vmware backend doc  https://review.openstack.org/45720107:52
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mpranjicjohn-davidge: I am making a small diagram before I bug you with (I am sure, very silly) questions :)08:42
john-davidgempranjic: Good morning! :)08:43
asettlempranjic: I think he's loving it, don't worry :p08:44
mpranjicjohn-davidge: morning :)08:44
mpranjicasettle: I sure hope he does, otherwise, he will send some folk with skimasks and bats :)08:45
mpranjicasettle: and morning :)08:45
asettleI promise you he's much nicer than that :p08:45
asettlemorning :)08:45
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asettleHoly crap doc people09:14
asettleOur governance tag merged! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445536/09:14
asettlejohn-davidge AJaeger aspiers ^^09:14
john-davidgeasettle: woop!09:15
aspierswhat does that mean?09:15
asettleHoly shit hahahahaha09:15
mpranjic*click*09:16
aspiersoh wow09:16
john-davidgeaspiers: It means asettle now has an official method for shaming projects that don't write docs :P09:16
* asettle dances09:17
asettleI mean09:17
asettleNoooo09:17
asettleShaming is bad09:17
asettle:p09:17
mpranjic"This approach no longer09:17
mpranjicensures that the documentation is sufficiently verified by the teams each09:17
mpranjicrelease.09:17
mpranjici second that :)09:17
asettleYeah cripes, took me 30 revisions wording this thing09:17
mpranjicI, for example, have no palantir to see into people's minds :)09:17
mpranjichahaha09:17
mpranjicwell, congrats :)09:17
asettleGracias :D09:18
asettleI'm rather chuffed09:18
asettleThis is a good step forwards09:18
asettleAJaeger: could you please remove the WIP tag here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453642/09:19
openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [contrib-guide] Add guidelines for proposed doc-tag  https://review.openstack.org/45364209:19
asettleActually, vnm.09:19
asettlenvm*09:19
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mpranjicliaison will be the one we can bug for explanations, I guess09:23
asettleYep, these people: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Documentation09:23
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asettleAlthough we'll have to update taht list now that the Intel crew has dropped out09:23
mpranjichow come they dropped out?09:26
mpranjicIntel was working on DPDK among other things, if I recall09:26
asettlempranjic: look, your guess is as good as mine. But what what I understand, the contract Intel had with Rackspace was not working out as far as Intel was concerned.09:27
asettleSo, OSIC is dead, and unfortunately a lot of people will be leaving.09:27
mpranjicthat is sad :/09:29
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mpranjicI remember Intel's role when we were setting up NFV in telcos. without DPDK, NFV will now run at all09:29
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AJaegerasettle: you still have WIP in the body of the commit message of 45364210:36
AJaegerasettle: congrats for getting that governance change in!10:37
openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [contrib-guide] Add guidelines for proposed doc-tag  https://review.openstack.org/45364210:37
asettleAJaeger: thanks and thanks and done :)10:37
AJaeger;)10:37
asettleCompletely missed that10:37
asettleBrain out the window10:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [admin guide] Configure Compute service groups - Formatting of alignment  https://review.openstack.org/45783610:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Updated network/port/subnet quotas in docs  https://review.openstack.org/45768411:15
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/45806313:00
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openstackgerritGergely Csatari proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Clarification for suspend in the Glossary  https://review.openstack.org/45810814:26
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bsilverman_Is the docs meeting today? Alex sent an email saying it was today at 2100 UTC but I think she means Thursday (although she did write it at 3am on Thursday in AUS)15:12
bsilverman_Therefore and forthwith I am confused.15:12
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openstackgerritJay Bryant proposed openstack/training-guides master: Update workflow setup slides to show tox  https://review.openstack.org/45813715:32
asettlebsilverman_: sorry, that was definitely Thursday the 20th15:39
asettlebsilverman_: thanks for pointing that out15:40
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bsilverman_asettle: no problem, I just wanted to make sure *I* didn’t miss it.16:03
ianychoibsilverman_, based on UTC - I was also a little bit confused but yes we know when IRC meeting is held :)16:05
ianychoibsilverman_, asettle now lives in UK with UTC :)16:05
bsilverman_ianchoi: I saw a website like that once, it said “Tips for living with UTC. Treatments now available.”  :slightly_smiling_face:16:08
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ianychoibut i also agree that utc is somewhat confused :)16:10
bsilverman_ianychoi: I celebrate our differences.16:12
ianychoibsilverman_, celebration !! :)16:12
bsilverman_ianychoi: what fun would it be if we all had universal time, distance, and temperature measurements? :slightly_smiling_face:16:13
ianychoibsilverman_, Sun rises at 6pm? OMG! haha16:15
bsilverman_That’s like Alaska in Fall16:16
ianychoiomg... Time should be open-sourced16:17
bsilverman_speaking of open source. Looks like Mirantis announced it’s newest directional platform today with a completely virtualized control plane. So, let’s see how the rest of the distributions react. Strangely they marketing it as a fully managed solution that they only release to the customer after 1 year.16:19
bsilverman_They are EOL Mirantis 9 and Fuel in 201916:20
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bsilverman_Therefore, as far as what we consider “regular” distributions, only RH/Canonical/Suse will be available.16:20
bsilverman_Why is this important? Architecturally, Mirantis is leaving the farm.16:22
bsilverman_Therefore, we have other distros that are installer-centric like RH’s director, Canonical’s Juju w/MAAS that is installer/operations-ish-centric and I’m not sure what SUSE has going on in the back room.16:23
ianychoiFor me, now the world looks a little bit confused. I18n assumes that all world has no difference nor discrimination. However, in reality, more political and economics affect on how we live.16:25
bsilverman_Architecturally, by introducing kubernetes/docker into the control plane, it changes some of the assumptions we talk about in the docs, especially in ha-guide.16:26
bsilverman_With I18n there should be no impact16:26
ianychoiIdeally :) In reality there should be no effect - It is like what asettle shared with osic16:27
bsilverman_ops-guide, arch-guide and ha-guide will have to keep abreast of any developments that are “good ideas (tm)” in the space.16:27
ianychoiIt would be nice if more kubernetes, swarm people give feedback on current documentation - That's my general feeling16:29
bsilverman_Let’s not talk about what Intel is doing. No dev conference, de-funding OSIC, what is going on over there? Are they abandoning the PC market for specialty chips?16:29
ianychoibsilverman_, +1 for your idea. Market things...16:29
bsilverman_ianychoi: I would have to think we’re going to have to incorporate some of the k8s stuff at some point, especially if the virtualized control plane on docker takes off. Rackspace has been doing containers in the control plane for a long time with LXC, but it’s been mostly contained within OSA.16:30
bsilverman_Of course there’s kolla-kubernetes and fuel-ccp but I’m not sure what traction those have.16:31
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bsilverman_Anyway, I need to run, talk to you later.16:32
bsilverman_o/16:32
ianychoibsilverman_, yep okay :)16:32
ianychoisee u!16:33
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AJaegerianychoi: did you followup with smarcet on his translations yesterday on #openstack-infra?17:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/45806317:38
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openstackgerritJay Bryant proposed openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Generalize Jenkins slides to Zuul  https://review.openstack.org/45823920:58
openstackgerritJay Bryant proposed openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Update workflow setup slides to show tox  https://review.openstack.org/45813720:59
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