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openstackgerritMartin Lopes proposed openstack/security-doc: Adds ARP spoofing to Security Guide  https://review.openstack.org/42294701:02
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guide] revert to nova client command  https://review.openstack.org/41971901:47
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/training-guides: Update OS to Ubuntu 16.04  https://review.openstack.org/42300202:54
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openstackgerritPeter Wang proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add Unity Cinder driver doc  https://review.openstack.org/42245604:22
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openstackgerritHa Dung proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Fixes typo bug1 on hook.py for openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/42241606:29
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openstackgerritPeter Wang proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update Unity Manila Docs for Ocata  https://review.openstack.org/42308506:52
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/training-guides: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/42309807:32
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add Unity Cinder driver doc  https://review.openstack.org/42245607:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-guides: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/42309807:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [ha-guide] Edit incorrect command for assigning VIP  https://review.openstack.org/42265208:02
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openstackgerritPeter Wang proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add Unity Cinder driver doc  https://review.openstack.org/42245608:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Fixes typo bug1 on hook.py for openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/42241608:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstackdocstheme: Includes checklist when filing a bug for osmanuals  https://review.openstack.org/42260508:52
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/42313209:06
openstackgerritPeter Wang proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update Unity Manila Docs for Ocata  https://review.openstack.org/42308509:07
openstackgerritCao Xuan Hoang proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [network] - Include logging API sub-chapter  https://review.openstack.org/39529009:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/42313209:42
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openstackgerritNam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/api-site: Remove unnecessary f.close()  https://review.openstack.org/42317910:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [www-id] add Indonesian Networking Guide for Newton as draft  https://review.openstack.org/42251512:25
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Do not build PDF of draft arch-design guide  https://review.openstack.org/42326613:35
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leongIs anyone here that i can talk about proposing new content to docs.openstack.org?17:33
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AJaegerleong: that works best via email, but let's have an initial discusion here17:37
annegentleleong here17:39
leongi actually shot an email to Lana few days ago.. i suppose she is on vacation?17:40
annegentleleong She's at a conference this week17:41
openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Fix the irrelevant example output  https://review.openstack.org/42338817:41
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AJaegerleong: openstack-docs email mailing list is the best place17:41
leongi have been working in Enterprise WG for couple years, and in previous release, we worked closely with Foundation and published the Workload Reference Architecture17:41
AJaegerleong: but feel free to tell us what you propose and we can give pointers17:41
leongwe (EWG) is looking at publishing those content on docs.openstack.org17:41
leongright now, those content are available on openstack sample config page17:42
leonghttps://www.openstack.org/software/sample-configs/#web-applications17:42
annegentleleong these are on the app architecture side, right?17:42
annegentleleong would it make sense to put these on developer.openstack?17:42
leongyes.. it is more on the Application Workload17:42
annegentleleong yeah17:43
AJaegerleong: why should we publish them both on www.o.o and another site?17:43
AJaegerleong: in general that's content that's appropriate...17:44
leongthat's my point.. we want to move over from o.o to docs.openstack.org and follow the docs publishing process17:44
AJaegerah...17:44
leongwe recently created a git repo for further development of these workload referene architecture17:45
leonggithub.com/openstack/workload-ref-archs17:45
leongwe are still in the process of structuring the git repo17:46
AJaegerleong: let's get that repo added to the list of "official repos" in governance project, please17:46
AJaegerhttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/user-committee-repos.yaml17:47
leongit is now under "openstack" root repo, does it required to be a "official project"?17:47
leonglike projects such as nova, neutron...?17:48
AJaegerleong: for publishing to docs.o.o: Yes. And since Enterprise WG is an official WG, that's just a formality...17:48
leongok.. no problem.. i will take the AR to do that17:48
annegentleAJaeger these belong on developer.17:48
annegentleAJaeger more than docs.os17:48
leongis not so much for Developer.. more for Deployment17:48
AJaegerannegentle: yes, developer - agred17:48
annegentleleong are you at all familiar with the publishing jobs and config after governance?17:49
annegentleleong that'll be your next steps17:49
annegentleleong and I'd like to see the WG work on that landing page, haven't seen much progress there17:49
leongannegentle, do you mean the "docs publishing" ?17:49
AJaegerleong: we have standard ways to publish documentation. If you create the docs asa single book under docs/source/ and use the standard sphinx publishing way, it will be very easy17:49
leongany pointers will be great?17:49
annegentleleong yeah17:49
AJaegerleong: like nova etc build docs17:50
annegentleleong most similar will be https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/api-site/tree/api-quick-start17:50
AJaegerThe only difference then would be where to *publish* but that can be changed easily17:50
leongi am familiar with the gerrit system but might need to read more about the "docs publishing" process...17:50
AJaegerannegentle: Please under doc/source17:50
annegentleAJaeger leong yeah, https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/api-site/tree/api-quick-start/source is more specific17:50
annegentleleong also, find out where you want bugs reported in Launchpad - likely need a new project in Launchpad for bug reporting.17:51
annegentleleong docs publishing is just like the code17:51
leongannegentle.. what do you mean the "landing page"17:51
leongalready has that on launchpad17:51
annegentleleong the landing page is http://developer.openstack.org. How will you get users to go to your new content?17:51
leonghttps://launchpad.net/workload-ref-archs17:52
AJaegerleong: I can setup the repo for you easily if you like - shall I do a change?17:52
annegentleleong yeah, then in conf.py you'll configure workload-ref-archs17:52
annegentleAJaeger might need to make sure the rest of the docs team gets it17:52
leongannegentle, you mean this conf.py? https://github.com/openstack/workload-ref-archs/blob/master/doc/source/conf.py17:53
annegentleyes, see https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/api-site/tree/api-quick-start/source/conf.py#n68 for the log-a-bug config17:53
AJaegerleong: you have already a correctly setup conf.py.17:53
annegentleAJaeger by "gets it," I mean "understands the content, its audience, where it goes, the tasks they do based on this content" and so on17:54
AJaegerin doc/source/conf.py - you can enhance that to use our openstackdocstheme and the log a bug17:54
AJaegerannegentle: let's first set up the repo...17:54
leongi follow "Project Creator" to setup this repo.. so generally i believe the structure is there.. just need to figure out how this can be integarted with Docs process17:54
annegentleleong in a way, you're only using docs tooling though. Be clear, you don't get writers when you do this... right?17:54
annegentleleong we're distributed work teams17:55
leongannegentle, that's another question i want to ask..17:55
annegentleleong sure17:55
leongthe content will be contributed by many people, they might not be a "technical writer"17:55
annegentleleong that's exactly what we enable17:55
leonghow do we ensure the "content quality" in terms of proper sentence, etc...17:56
annegentleleong across hundreds of projects17:56
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annegentleleong we use a central style guide when reviewing -- see http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/writing-style.html17:56
AJaegerleong: https://review.openstack.org/423394 sets up building of docs when you submit a change17:56
leongfor the existing reference architecture that we have published, Foundation assigned a Technical Writer to "beautify" the text17:56
annegentleleong Right. I'm making sure you know you don't get that in this model.17:57
AJaegerleong: could you +1 that change?17:57
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leongAjaeger.. just _117:57
leong+1..17:57
AJaegeryes17:58
leongso in this docs process, does it relies on docs team to ensure the "text consistency"?17:58
annegentleleong of course, the Foundation can keep the tech writer working on the text.17:58
annegentleleong the review team17:58
annegentleleong the review team is set up per repo17:58
leongso the review team became the "technical writer" ?17:58
annegentleleong not necessarily17:59
annegentleleong but only core reviewers can publish17:59
annegentleleong anyone can review17:59
annegentleleong does that make sense?17:59
annegentleleong AJaeger and I have a post about this, let me dig it up17:59
annegentleleong https://opensource.com/business/15/7/continuous-integration-and-continuous-delivery-documentation18:00
AJaegerleong: and anybody can contribute. But the review team ensures quality of content18:00
leonga question raised by EWG team is: how can we ensure the text are properly written?18:00
AJaegerleong: the reviewers need to ensure that18:01
annegentleleong this article also discusses the quality checking https://opensource.com/business/15/4/git-and-github-open-source-documentation-reviews18:01
leongin the past cycle, the "contributor" might be non-native-english, so sentences need to be reworked18:01
leongso that became the reviewer responsibility...18:01
leongthanks for the link.. i will check that out18:02
leongso what's the next step for me to move forward?18:02
AJaegerleong: and we normally have two reviewers - so you could have one that targets technical accuracy and one more on language18:02
AJaegerleong: governance change - and setting up the repo so that the docs are build18:03
AJaegerleong: "tox -e docs" will build the documents in your repo - and put them into doc/source/html for you to review18:03
AJaegerSo, next step is to move the texts to have into RST and add them to doc/source/ so that they are build as part of the doc building.18:04
AJaegerOnce that all works, we can discuss publishing again.18:04
leongok.. got it... will work on that..18:04
leongthanks for the help!18:05
leongi will take the action and get back here... :)18:05
AJaegerleong: I just pushed two proposed changes to your repo. One cleanup and one proposal on how to build and publish the web-applications content.18:07
leongok.. thanks!18:07
AJaegeronce https://review.openstack.org/423394 , with every  change you get the documents build and can preview them. Just click on the docs job, it's a link to the generated documents.18:08
AJaegerThat makes reviewing easier18:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-guides: Update OS to Ubuntu 16.04  https://review.openstack.org/42300218:19
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leongAJaeger, i just submit the changes to add into uc governance19:08
leonghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/423413/19:08
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leongAJaeger attending other meeting just now20:52
leongi submitted this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423413/ to include EWG repo under UC20:53
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AJaegerleong: check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423414/ - the docs are build now...21:05
leongyup.. just saw that..21:06
leonglooks good, just need to touch up the layout and landing page21:06
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AJaegerleong: yep...21:07
leongso where would the "generated html" be eventually?21:07
AJaegerwhat do you mean?21:07
leongfor example, the api doc is generated to here: http://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/quick-start/21:07
leongwhere should the ewg-doc be generated to?21:08
AJaegerleong: we don't have a standard naming for developer.o.o, might be top-level like developer.o.o/workload-ref-archs/ - let's discuss later once there's more content21:09
AJaegersorry, have to leave now - have a great weekend21:09
leongok.. got it.. we are in the process of importing two more workloads in (Big Data and eCommerce)21:09
leongjust to make sure.. is this going to be the source of the landing page? https://github.com/openstack/workload-ref-archs/blob/master/doc/source/index.rst21:11
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sridhar_ramDocs team - we have our manual install guide at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tacker/install/manual_installation.html ... however this always points to the master. Is there a way to view the stable/newton version of this same doc?22:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Use double backticks for command options  https://review.openstack.org/42031922:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Update sphinx version  https://review.openstack.org/42031522:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Updating old policy.json syntax  https://review.openstack.org/42130523:00
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