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loquacities | meeting time, apaccers! | 00:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Horizon configuration tables https://review.openstack.org/277868 | 00:35 |
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asettle | loquacities: I have convinced njirap to help us out with the install guide testing! | 01:06 |
loquacities | yay! | 01:06 |
njirap | thats me..! | 01:06 |
asettle | njirap: was an intern with me for the outreachy program and is interested in continuing to work with OpenStack which was super cool! She did amazingly and started on some doc-tools stuff. | 01:07 |
loquacities | njirap: hi! | 01:07 |
njirap | hi loquacities | 01:07 |
loquacities | if you could start with ubuntu, that would be super helpful | 01:07 |
njirap | ok.. | 01:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [Release Notes] Update for HA and API guides for Mitaka https://review.openstack.org/295670 | 01:54 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [contributor] Add [WIP] to list of topic tags https://review.openstack.org/295596 | 01:57 |
openstackgerrit | Nam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/api-site: [identity][v3/policies] Types of some parameters are wrong Fixing type of some parameters, which are wrong https://review.openstack.org/296143 | 02:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [User Guides] Object Storage chapter edits https://review.openstack.org/295622 | 02:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Reorganised Quickstart chapter https://review.openstack.org/292201 | 02:46 |
thingee | loquacities: ping | 02:47 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [User Guides] Troubleshooting Sections Reorganised. https://review.openstack.org/295626 | 02:51 |
asettle | thingee: she just popped off to the gym. She'll be back later :) | 02:51 |
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thingee | ok, I'll probably be asleep by then. I'll email the list about it later. | 02:51 |
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asettle | Okay thingee :)) | 02:59 |
sheel | asettle: hi | 03:02 |
sheel | asettle: need review help on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294126/ waiting for final +2 for further dependent patches.. | 03:03 |
sheel | asettle: thanks | 03:03 |
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loquacities | oh damn, i must have only just missed thingee | 04:24 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [User Guides] Object Storage chapter edits https://review.openstack.org/295622 | 04:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Missing volume type access add https://review.openstack.org/294126 | 04:34 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Fix links to API Guide https://review.openstack.org/296038 | 04:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Sheel Rana proposed openstack/api-site: Missing "volume type access delete" https://review.openstack.org/295033 | 05:33 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/296205 | 06:42 |
openstackgerrit | chen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install]Add "--domain default" to the creating user command https://review.openstack.org/296208 | 06:46 |
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openstackgerrit | KATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Sort chapter by alphabetical order https://review.openstack.org/296217 | 07:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/security-doc: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/296205 | 07:07 |
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openstackgerrit | KATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Update python-manilaclient to 1.8.1 https://review.openstack.org/296230 | 07:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Remove obsolete French Draft Image Guide https://review.openstack.org/296243 | 08:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Update python-manilaclient to 1.8.1 https://review.openstack.org/296230 | 08:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Do not use obsoleted keys in ceilometer config https://review.openstack.org/295384 | 08:16 |
openstackgerrit | Jiri Suchomel proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Use correct location for notification driver. https://review.openstack.org/295365 | 08:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Sort chapter by alphabetical order https://review.openstack.org/296217 | 09:15 |
openstackgerrit | KATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/training-guides: Update upstream university leader for austin https://review.openstack.org/296109 | 09:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Jiri Suchomel proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Workaround for missing mongoDB auth configuration https://review.openstack.org/296309 | 09:24 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/training-guides: Update upstream university leader for austin https://review.openstack.org/296109 | 09:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/training-guides: Adding tool chain documentation for IRC https://review.openstack.org/286941 | 09:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Remove obsolete French Draft Image Guide https://review.openstack.org/296243 | 10:29 |
openstackgerrit | Jiri Suchomel proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Workaround for missing mongoDB auth configuration https://review.openstack.org/296309 | 10:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Jiri Suchomel proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Use correct location for notification driver. https://review.openstack.org/295365 | 11:27 |
openstackgerrit | Jiri Suchomel proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Workaround for missing mongoDB auth configuration https://review.openstack.org/296309 | 11:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Olga Gusarenko proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [release] Adopts tools/publishdocs.sh for Mitaka https://review.openstack.org/296386 | 11:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Olga Gusarenko proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [release] Creates mitaka/index page https://review.openstack.org/296396 | 12:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Olga Gusarenko proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [release] Creates mitaka/index page https://review.openstack.org/296396 | 12:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Alexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Manila] Add LVM driver page https://review.openstack.org/296423 | 12:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [Networking-guide]Fix the wrong source MAC noted after routing https://review.openstack.org/287576 | 13:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Jiri Suchomel proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Workaround for missing mongoDB auth configuration https://review.openstack.org/296309 | 13:36 |
openstackgerrit | Allen proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add screenshot for create image in user guide https://review.openstack.org/296441 | 13:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Petr Kovar proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Update rdo procedures in environment-packages https://review.openstack.org/296452 | 13:57 |
openstackgerrit | Alexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Manila] Add LVM driver page https://review.openstack.org/296423 | 13:57 |
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openstackgerrit | chen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Networking-guide]Fix the wrong source MAC noted after routing https://review.openstack.org/296487 | 14:31 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Add para elements, text in listitems https://review.openstack.org/295988 | 14:33 |
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strigazi | Hi all, since Magnum's install guide won't be in mitaka (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288580/), I should move the spec (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289994/) under newton. Can I create the directory and include it in doc/source/index.rst or there is another procedure for new releases? | 14:37 |
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AJaeger | strigazi: go for it! | 14:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/api-site: Add Network IP Availability API Extension https://review.openstack.org/280953 | 14:52 |
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strigazi | AJaeger: thanks | 15:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Spyros Trigazis proposed openstack/docs-specs: Add magnum to the installation guide for newton https://review.openstack.org/289994 | 15:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Manila] Add ZFSonLinux driver page https://review.openstack.org/295404 | 15:47 |
openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Manila] Add ZFSonLinux driver page https://review.openstack.org/295404 | 16:07 |
dencaval | Hey guys, do you know if ubuntu, redhat and suse already have RC1 repositories? | 16:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex O'Rourke proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update HPE 3PAR Shared File System Docs https://review.openstack.org/296088 | 16:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Linette Williams proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guides] Add new file to cfg ssh https://review.openstack.org/295997 | 16:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Perez proposed openstack/training-guides: Create git setup/learn guide https://review.openstack.org/296624 | 17:33 |
openstackgerrit | Mike Perez proposed openstack/training-guides: Create git setup/learn guide https://review.openstack.org/296624 | 17:36 |
openstackgerrit | Spyros Trigazis proposed openstack/docs-specs: Add magnum to the installation guide for newton https://review.openstack.org/289994 | 17:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Gauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [WIP] [config-ref] Include Octavia options https://review.openstack.org/296638 | 17:46 |
openstackgerrit | Olena Logvinova proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Manila] Add ZFSonLinux driver page https://review.openstack.org/295404 | 17:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Perez proposed openstack/training-guides: Create git setup/learn guide https://review.openstack.org/296624 | 18:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Add faults to os-virtual-interface WADL https://review.openstack.org/289573 | 18:41 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Compute API v2.1 List servers response tables do not show full parameters. https://review.openstack.org/290228 | 18:41 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Add missing 'links' parameters for manila https://review.openstack.org/280715 | 18:41 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Cinder: Block Storage API v2 page: URL of APIs are not correct https://review.openstack.org/292202 | 18:41 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Compute extensions is lack of response parameters. https://review.openstack.org/290291 | 18:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Adding response parameters table for firewall policy API https://review.openstack.org/292704 | 18:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Adolfo Duarte proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [User Guides] Adds DVR/SNAT ha to Networking Guide https://review.openstack.org/296711 | 19:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Install: Simplify OpenRC files https://review.openstack.org/293188 | 19:42 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Change OpenRC *DOMAIN_ID to *DOMAIN_NAME https://review.openstack.org/296717 | 19:42 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Change OpenRC *DOMAIN_ID to *DOMAIN_NAME https://review.openstack.org/296717 | 19:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Keystone updates for Mitaka https://review.openstack.org/296764 | 20:08 |
AJaeger | dguitarbite: could you review and test the change above, please ? ^ | 20:09 |
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thingee | loquacities: thanks for the clarification on the install docs. I will try my best to attend the session. cross-project efforts have me thin on trying to attend everything. | 21:41 |
thingee | loquacities: I'm happy as long as things are discoverable. Don't really care where they live, but it seems like staying in tree with the projects is working for some. | 21:42 |
loquacities | thingee: no trouble | 21:55 |
loquacities | we recognise that there's a pain point here, we just needed the bandwidth to be able to solve it | 21:55 |
loquacities | and RST conversions have taken up all our time for the last two releases | 21:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Keystone auth updates for Mitaka https://review.openstack.org/296816 | 22:07 |
Sam-I-Am | loquacities: we need to get moving on some of these patches | 22:07 |
Sam-I-Am | thanks to keystone's last minute changes, i'm having to address almost the entire guide. | 22:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Add Network IP Availability API Extension https://review.openstack.org/280953 | 22:30 |
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loquacities | Sam-I-Am: sorry for the late reply, been in meetings all morning | 22:44 |
loquacities | Sam-I-Am: what needs to be done with the patches? | 22:44 |
Sam-I-Am | review, merge | 22:46 |
loquacities | ah right | 22:57 |
loquacities | yep, i'm on that today | 22:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | loquacities: having to make a lot of invasive changes this late in the cycle | 22:59 |
loquacities | yeah, sucks :( | 22:59 |
Sam-I-Am | keystone has been terrible this cycle | 23:00 |
Sam-I-Am | and its more or less the foundation for everything else | 23:00 |
loquacities | it's becoming a habit | 23:00 |
Sam-I-Am | we need to figure out why projects arent involving themselves with the guides | 23:00 |
Sam-I-Am | other docs aside, the install guide should be important to all projects | 23:00 |
loquacities | it's weird, there's a lot of "omg we need docs" on the ML | 23:01 |
loquacities | but then no actual support | 23:01 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah, i've seen that since i started | 23:01 |
loquacities | it's like a form of learned helplessness | 23:01 |
Sam-I-Am | much of it is attributed to the poor decision of using docbook for so long | 23:01 |
loquacities | yeah, fair call | 23:02 |
Sam-I-Am | and i'm seeing an increase in contributions from some projects now that we're using rst. a lot of devs still seem to think docs has this crazy workflow. | 23:02 |
Sam-I-Am | so i suggest some education showing its just rst+sphinx with some conventions to keep things sane | 23:02 |
Sam-I-Am | devs find it easier to just toss stuff into the devref because its fire-and-forget, and people in their project can merge it with code. | 23:03 |
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loquacities | Sam-I-Am: yeah, i don't even know how to go about educating them other than to keep yelling "IT'S THE SAME AS CODE" | 23:10 |
loquacities | which i already do, a lot | 23:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'm not privy to tc meetings, but i think we need more understanding from the tc to get the ptls in the right mindset about docs | 23:14 |
Sam-I-Am | it would be nice if projects would contribute specific resources to docs, or at least join our meetings and helps us with things like the install guide, but at a minimum no-docs-no-merge seems to be working well for a couple of projects | 23:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Adolfo Duarte proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [User Guides] Adds DVR/SNAT HA configuration example https://review.openstack.org/296836 | 23:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Adolfo Duarte proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [User Guides] Adds DVR/SNAT HA configuration example https://review.openstack.org/296836 | 23:50 |
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