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loquacities | bogdando: ping | 00:38 |
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loquacities | are you able to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1516341 please? | 00:38 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1516341 in openstack-manuals "Identity services (keystone) in High Availability Guide" [Undecided,New] | 00:38 |
loquacities | it needs someone familiar with the material to confirm | 00:38 |
Sam-I-Am | loquacities: the ha guide is a disaster and mostly no longer relevant | 00:38 |
loquacities | i'm aware of that | 00:39 |
Sam-I-Am | i thought it was getting renovated for kilo.. or even liberty | 00:39 |
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loquacities | it is | 00:39 |
loquacities | that's why i pinged bogdando | 00:39 |
Sam-I-Am | probably needs to be un-published until further notice | 00:39 |
loquacities | yeah, i'd be happy to do that if the speciality team agree | 00:39 |
Sam-I-Am | its like the debian install guide :) | 00:39 |
Sam-I-Am | its too bad we're not getting operator contributions to the operator-centric guides | 00:40 |
Sam-I-Am | we just can't keep all this stuff fresh | 00:40 |
Sam-I-Am | same situation with the ops and networking guides | 00:40 |
Sam-I-Am | the idea was kicking it off and then people would keep the ball rolling | 00:41 |
loquacities | it was? since when> | 00:41 |
loquacities | ? | 00:41 |
Sam-I-Am | well, thats how i imagine it. solid documentation needs contributions from people using the things. | 00:42 |
Sam-I-Am | at least the more advanced stuff | 00:42 |
Sam-I-Am | do any of us docs folks run production clouds? | 00:42 |
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Sam-I-Am | for example, this upgrades spec. i was hoping an operator would jump on it and at least dump some things in an etherpad that docs can decode | 00:43 |
loquacities | i've been a tech writer for a long time, and trust me there's no "build it and they will come" thing going on here | 00:46 |
Sam-I-Am | lol | 00:46 |
Sam-I-Am | it sucks, really. | 00:46 |
loquacities | it's part of the job | 00:46 |
Sam-I-Am | theres absolutely no way i can write a thorough upgrade guide | 00:47 |
Sam-I-Am | yet people expect one to exist | 00:47 |
loquacities | no, but you can probably write a half-way decent one, and then get people to tell you where you screwed it up | 00:47 |
loquacities | people are always happy to tell you where you got things wrong ;) | 00:47 |
Sam-I-Am | true | 00:47 |
loquacities | the trick is learning not to take it personally | 00:47 |
Sam-I-Am | i dont think i take it personally. its just frustrating that plenty of people have done things we write about in much better environments | 00:48 |
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loquacities | yeah, and we're here to extract that info from their heads | 00:51 |
loquacities | that's what we do | 00:51 |
loquacities | bogdando: can you also please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1516465 | 00:52 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1516465 in openstack-manuals "HAProxy nodes in High Availability Guide" [Undecided,New] | 00:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Diane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Update volume API v1 and v2 to make these changes https://review.openstack.org/254958 | 01:02 |
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Eva-i | Hello. Do you plan to convert "API Complete Reference" to RST in the future? | 01:03 |
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loquacities | Eva-i: yes | 01:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Diane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: (WIP) Spell-check and remove passive voice from api-site https://review.openstack.org/251467 | 01:08 |
Eva-i | loquacities: would it be far or near future, how do you think? | 01:09 |
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Eva-i | It's important for Zaqar team to know it, because we would like to start migrating/converting our API reference to the official place, but we're scared if the format will change in the near future and the conversion work will be for nothing. | 01:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Diane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Update telemetry API v2 to make these changes https://review.openstack.org/255647 | 02:45 |
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loquacities | Eva-i: it won't be for nothing in either case. If you get it in before the migration, it will get migrated over later on | 02:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Diane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Add API doc for clustering service https://review.openstack.org/252245 | 02:55 |
Eva-i | loquacities: do you mean if API spec will be written in docbook, Doc team will convert it when mass conversion will start? It will be additional work still. | 02:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Refresh mariadb/galera instructions based on current best practice https://review.openstack.org/247896 | 03:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Merge the galera summary into the main galera page https://review.openstack.org/247890 | 03:31 |
openstackgerrit | Andrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Move the memcached summary into a page specific to memcached https://review.openstack.org/247891 | 03:31 |
openstackgerrit | Andrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Merge the haproxy summary into the main HA proxy page https://review.openstack.org/247888 | 03:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Remove no-quorum-policy option https://review.openstack.org/247894 | 03:31 |
openstackgerrit | Andrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Include pcs commands for creating a HAProxy resource https://review.openstack.org/247895 | 03:31 |
openstackgerrit | Andrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Configure VIPs before services https://review.openstack.org/247892 | 03:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Add API doc for clustering service https://review.openstack.org/252245 | 03:43 |
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openstackgerrit | KATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert block storage HDS HNAS to RST https://review.openstack.org/255247 | 03:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Include neutron config files https://review.openstack.org/254984 | 04:16 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ha-guide: Updated from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/255665 | 04:17 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/255666 | 04:17 |
openstackgerrit | KATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Add nova contents for Debian https://review.openstack.org/255667 | 04:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Updated from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/255664 | 04:30 |
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Eva-i | loquacities: oki, thank you for your answers. I wonder when mass API conversion might happen. | 04:35 |
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loquacities | Eva-i: you'd be best off chatting to anne gentle about exact timelines | 04:42 |
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loquacities | and keep an eye on this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/app-guides-mitaka-vision | 04:42 |
Eva-i | loquacities: oh, thanks, I will do it. | 04:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/api-site: Report bugs agaisnt openstack-api-site https://review.openstack.org/255724 | 08:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Gauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: [diff_branches] Handle empty values in RST tables https://review.openstack.org/255740 | 08:52 |
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bogdando | loquacities, thank you for testing this. I updated the testing progress page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/LibertyDocTesting#HA_guide as well | 09:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert block storage HDS HNAS to RST https://review.openstack.org/255247 | 11:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Eduardo Felipe Zecca da Cruz proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add documentation for HNAS Shared File Systems Driver https://review.openstack.org/245271 | 11:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Njira Perci proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Minor changes to HPE 3PAR drivers RST https://review.openstack.org/255806 | 11:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Minor changes to HPE 3PAR drivers RST https://review.openstack.org/255806 | 11:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Eduardo Felipe Zecca da Cruz proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add documentation for HNAS Shared File Systems Driver https://review.openstack.org/245271 | 12:19 |
openstackgerrit | Bogdan Dobrelya proposed openstack/ha-guide: Fix HAProxy configuration for controllers https://review.openstack.org/255837 | 12:22 |
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AJaeger | Sam-I-Am: could you approve my networking versioning changes, please? https://review.openstack.org/255396 https://review.openstack.org/255394 https://review.openstack.org/255395 | 12:23 |
AJaeger | Sam-I-Am: with those my part of the versioning spec should be done ;) | 12:24 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-doc-tools: [diff_branches] Handle empty values in RST tables https://review.openstack.org/255740 | 12:44 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/api-site: Add detailed info to instance and server name https://review.openstack.org/255868 | 13:15 |
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openstackgerrit | venkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Image-guide] Fix the RST mark-ups https://review.openstack.org/255758 | 13:36 |
Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: those can be approved prior to the backport stuffs? | 13:40 |
AJaeger | those should - so that you can properly review the backport stuff and check that it works | 13:41 |
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AJaeger | Once the backports are done, you can adjust index pages | 13:41 |
AJaeger | But for now, get the changes in place so that we gate properly. | 13:41 |
Sam-I-Am | ok cool, thx | 13:42 |
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AJaeger | Sam-I-Am: will you put them on your review queue for later today or should I ping others? | 13:51 |
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Sam-I-Am | AJaeger: looking at them now | 13:56 |
Sam-I-Am | had to get through the openstackclient thing first | 13:56 |
AJaeger | ;) | 13:56 |
Sam-I-Am | sort of funny that jamielennox wrote it, and he's about the worst person for documenting anything ever :) | 13:56 |
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AJaeger | there's always hope ;) | 14:01 |
Sam-I-Am | i'm still trying to get keystone middleware documented properly | 14:02 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/api-site: The tenant id response is not optional https://review.openstack.org/255890 | 14:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-site: Report bugs against openstack-api-site https://review.openstack.org/255724 | 14:23 |
AJaeger | annegentle: updated https://review.openstack.org/255729 - thanks for the reviw | 14:24 |
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annegentle | thanks AJaeger | 14:27 |
annegentle | on the road again! :) | 14:27 |
annegentle | back later | 14:27 |
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openstackgerrit | venkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [README.rst] Update the documentation contributor guide link https://review.openstack.org/255907 | 14:30 |
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openstackgerrit | venkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update the documentation contributor guide link https://review.openstack.org/255907 | 14:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Linette Williams proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert lenovo-driver to RST https://review.openstack.org/255454 | 14:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Publish networking guide for kilo https://review.openstack.org/255396 | 14:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Publish networking guide versioned for liberty https://review.openstack.org/255395 | 14:50 |
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openstackgerrit | venkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Drop py26 classifier from setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/255923 | 15:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Publish networking guide versioned https://review.openstack.org/255394 | 15:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [Image-guide] Fix the RST mark-ups https://review.openstack.org/255758 | 15:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Linette Williams proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert FlashSystem volume driver to RST https://review.openstack.org/255954 | 16:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Add nova contents for Debian https://review.openstack.org/255667 | 16:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: Update the documentation contributor guide link https://review.openstack.org/255907 | 16:11 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert lenovo-driver to RST https://review.openstack.org/255454 | 16:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Gauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert the XtremIO cinder driver to RST https://review.openstack.org/255932 | 16:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Pranav Salunke proposed openstack/training-labs: Update README with new network addresses. https://review.openstack.org/255985 | 16:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Erickson Filipe Guedes dos Santos proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add documentation for Nested Quotas on Cinder https://review.openstack.org/253218 | 17:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Linette Williams proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert FlashSystem volume driver to RST https://review.openstack.org/255954 | 19:54 |
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