Monday, 2015-09-21

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elarsonanyone around that might be able to help me with something?04:17
elarsonI'm trying to update a recordset's (A record) record listing and am having trouble04:17
elarsonthis is not via the API btw, but in the code04:18
elarsonif I find the recordset via central_api.find_recordset and get an object back, how can I loop through a list of IP addresses as strings and properly update the recordset before updating it with central_api.update_recordset?04:19
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/designate-dashboard: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/22539606:19
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sonukhi all10:55
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ekarlsosonuk: hi10:56
sonukekarlso:  i am geeting gate test failure on submitting the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221610/.10:57
sonukekarlso: Is that gate tests are failing due to some introduced bug .10:59
ekarlsosonuk: it's some neutron job thaet's blowing up11:00
sonukekarlso: so what could be the fix for this? should I wait for this to be fixed or I should look into this if I could fix this failure.11:03
ekarlsosonuk: Kiall will look at it11:04
ekarlsobusy with internal stuff sadly :)11:04
sonukekarlso: ok. thanks.11:05
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Alex_StafHi all , can someone tell me what are those tests? https://github.com/openstack/designate/tree/master/designate/tests ?  unitest? tnx11:22
mugsieAlex_Staf: they are "unit tests"11:30
mugsiewell, supposed to be11:30
mugsiebut they span multiple layers at this point11:30
Alex_StafK tnx11:31
mugsiewe are workign towards fixing them up11:31
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Alex_StafOhh ok.11:52
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Alex_Staftnx m811:52
mugsieAlex_Staf: np11:55
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dhellmannkiall: does designateclient need another release before we create a stable branch? http://paste.openstack.org/show/469795/13:16
KiallYes, we're trying to get the gate unwedged13:16
Kialldhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/225628 <-- is blocking our ability to land anything :(13:17
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dhellmannKiall: ok, noted13:19
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leitanHi everyone, has anyone ever tried to use another notification topic than "notifications" ? , cause im seeing that nova ... is just publishing the compute.instance.update events to the queue, and the compute.instance.create.end and delete.start are just published to the topic "notifications" no matter what13:23
leitanleitan, seems to me that nova is not using the notifications_topic list somewhere13:24
leitanand if i dont use the notifications topic (used by ceilometer already) i cant catch the nova instance creation to use the fixed_ips handler from designate13:24
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leitanseems to me that nova is not using the notifications_topic list somewhere, and i need to use ceilometer and designate at the same time, so im using an aditional notification_topic for this to work, but messages are missing on the other topic13:34
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en_austinhi! does anybody knows, is Designate is multi-threaded (and if so, can I increase its threads count?) I'm now experiencing some performance issues (API call differs with actual record provisioning in 10-15 minutes) :(14:05
en_austinor, maybe, there are another designate boosting methods available..14:05
mugsieen_austin: you can... 10 - 15 mins seems ... large though14:09
mugsiehow big are the zones?14:10
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en_austinits approx 150-200 zones with 50-70 records in each14:10
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mugsiedoes the API show the records as ACTIVE before they are, or 15 mins after they are actually active14:17
mugsie?14:17
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/designate: Change ignore-errors to ignore_errors  https://review.openstack.org/22573014:26
en_austinno, 15 mins before they really become ACTIVE & live on backend14:33
en_austinI think, that is because we have really much atomic add/delete records queries :(14:34
mugsiemaybe ... try scaling the mdns services out a bit then14:38
en_austinhow? that's the question ))14:49
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mugsieah, yuo can boot more instances of it, and add them to the pool config14:55
mugsieworkers work on all the other services, execpt pdns14:55
mugsiesorry, mdns14:55
mugsieit causes issues if you use it.14:55
timsimAnd API.14:55
mugsieand API?14:55
mugsiewut14:55
mugsiedamn14:55
timsimMultiple processes can't bind to 9001, and we don't do the same reuseport stuff, I believe.14:56
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timsimmugsie: http://paste.openstack.org/show/472864/14:58
mugsietimsim: :(15:06
mugsiethis is a critical bug15:06
timsimSorry mate.15:07
timsimShould have reported when I found out a long time ago.15:08
mugsie:)15:08
mugsietut tut15:08
mugsiecan you stick a bug in now? will add it to my list15:08
timsimSure.15:08
timsimmugsie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/149805415:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1498054 in Designate "API worker processes > 1 do not start" [Undecided,Triaged]15:11
pglasswhat is the masters field of a zone actually for?15:12
en_austinwell, so what... will Designate performance increase if I will start more Central's and Pool Manager instances?15:15
timsimpglass: Secondary zones15:15
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timsimen_austin: Central, yes, absolutely. Pool Manager, perhaps, you'd need a coordination backend so that they dont' stop on each other for some things.15:16
timsimIn the central config, you can set workers = x, which will let Designate start more processes for you.15:16
timsimBut, if you're seeing long times to active, that might not do what you need.15:17
timsimMdns is probably what you want.15:17
timsimBut without seeing it, can't know for sure, it might be pool managers too.15:17
en_austinSo. How can I add more mDNS'es?15:17
elarsonen_austin: you add more workers via the config15:18
elarsonen_austin: if you do bump up the workers in mdns and you have problems, let me know.15:18
timsimmdns won't do there elarson ;)15:18
timsimWell...I guess it might15:18
elarsonyeah, I'd like to see someone else try it to be sure I'm not living in crazy town15:18
elarson:)15:18
timsimhah.15:18
timsimYeah. Bump workers in the mdns config section en_austin15:19
timsimIf that doesn't improve it, or causes other issues, come back and we can try something else15:19
en_austinI don't have mdns config section at all ;( it should be like [service:mdns] (new line) workers = x15:20
en_austin?15:20
mugsieen_austin: yup15:20
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en_austinwell, thanks! will try it soon.15:22
en_austinI don't got one thing - if I'll set workers >1 for Pool manager, will it cause some malfunction or unconsistency of designate's tasks?15:28
openstackgerritjames beedy proposed openstack/designate-dashboard: Removed pbr.version and header in __init__.py  https://review.openstack.org/22589915:28
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timsimen_austin: Yes, it will, unless you set up a coordination service, the pool manager uses openstack's tooz library to do leader election, which will resolve those task problems.15:35
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en_austinIt's more clear now, thanks. I'll try to do it without increasing a Pool manager workers count :)15:36
en_austinand one more for now... Can I customize a log output for workers of Central/mDNS (like <service>.<worker_num>.log) or they all have common stdout/err?15:37
Kialltimsim: what OS / version are you gettting that  Could not bind to 0.0.0.0:9001 on?15:37
mlavalleKiall, timsim: take a look at http://paste.openstack.org/show/471874/. This is a floating ip creation from Neutron showing the integration with Designate. It was done with the latest code in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/15:37
mlavalleKiall, timsim: I di this last night15:38
Kiallmlavalle: cool! Q .. is that auto-creating the reverse DNS zone from Neutron?15:39
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Kiall(Those are fairly special cased in Designate, due to weirdness in how they work multi-tenant)15:39
mlavalleKiall: yes!15:39
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timsimKiall: Debian 8.1 3.16.0-4-amd64, I've seen it on Ubuntu 14.04 too.15:40
Kiallmlavalle: looking over the code for that quickly, it's possible an issue!15:40
mlavalleKiall: let me clarify, Neutron is creating the necessary zone and PTR record15:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/designate-dashboard: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/22539615:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/designate: Ensure CNAME RRSets only have one record  https://review.openstack.org/22490615:42
mlavalleKiall: look here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/12/neutron/services/externaldns/drivers/designate/driver.py. Method in line 5315:42
Kiallmlavalle: so - looking at the code, it's doing the PTR zone creation using the end-users context, which will only work for admins :/15:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/designate: A functional test to check CNAME recordsets allow only 1 record  https://review.openstack.org/22532415:42
mlavalleKiall: well, no I am not using and admin user. I am using demo in devstack15:42
mlavalleKiall: I was expecting that, but it works15:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/designate: Change ignore-errors to ignore_errors  https://review.openstack.org/22573015:43
KiallI think that may be a fluke :/15:44
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mlavalleKiall: I've been doing it several times saturday and sunday15:46
KiallSure, so the issue is a couple of things..15:48
KiallNormally, non-admin's are prevented from creating *.in-addr.arpa. zones..  On top of that, say HP who own 15.0.0.0/8 create 15.in-addr.arpa. in some tenant of theirs15:49
Kiallnow, a customer trying to create 1.2.3.15.in-addr.com. is creating a subdomain of another tenants domains15:49
KiallWe implemented a speical API in designate for handling these zones, to avoid the pain :(15:50
KiallBut - that API talks back out to Neutron, so I'm not convinced it's ideal for API calls from NEU->DES->NEU!15:51
KiallIdeally, Neutron would have a set of creds to talk to Designate as a specific tenant within which the PTR zones live, while the A/AAAA's live in the tenant network as usual15:52
mlavalleKiall: that's cool, you are the dns, designate expert. so, how should I be doing this? I followed this recipe http://docs.openstack.org/developer/designate/howtos/manage-ptr-records.html that timsim gace last Tuesday15:52
KiallOr - Maybe we drop the PTR stuff behind a "enable_experimential_designate_ptr = True/False" flag -15:52
mlavalleKiall: If you want me to athenticate as admin to create the PTR zones and recors, I don't have a problem implementing that15:54
Kiall(Designate already makes some assumptions around the fact that PTR zones will live in one specific tenant, since individual zones needs to be "shared" between multiple tenants (or have to be subdomains of other tenants domains)15:54
KiallYea, I think allowing Neutron to auth as $user+$tenant for the PTR part, and re-using the client's context for the rest fits best15:55
mlavalleKiall: meaning $user+$tenant is admin, correct?15:55
KiallWell, it may be "admin" or some user in the "PTR" tenant15:57
mlavalleKiall: ahhh, so you have a special PTR tenant?15:58
KiallI know we do at HP Cloud :)15:59
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mlavallemhhhh, but we don't now that for other user / deployers..... let's go with admin15:59
mlavalleknow that^^^15:59
KiallIt's not special in any way, other than our policy.json file allows that tenant to create in-arpa zones15:59
timsimWe do at RAX in our old system. :P15:59
mlavallewould admin be ok?16:00
KiallSure!16:00
mlavalleKiall, timsim: so to be clear..... in the driver, every time I push a floating ip to designate I will instantiate 2 designate clients, 1 with the user context and one with user+tenant with admin16:01
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mlavalleKiall, timsim: the former will create the A record. The latter will create the in-arpa zone and the PTR record16:02
Kiallmlavalle: yea, unless your a private cloud with 1 user, you have a 99% chance of needing elevated priviledges to do PTR stuff16:02
mlavalleKiall, timsim: as far as the requests I am using, they are correct, right?16:03
openstackgerritPaul Glass proposed openstack/python-designateclient: Layout some functional tests for the V2 CLI  https://review.openstack.org/21630616:04
Kiallmlavalle:  Technically, yes! We tend to use /24 sized PTR zones16:07
Kiallto avid having a huge number of rDNS zones16:07
KiallTo avoid*16:08
KiallWe also tend to not delete those zones once their empty, as they will just get recreated again anyway16:08
mlavalleKiall: cool, I have a bug to fix in Neutron today and tomorrow..... expect the next iteration in gerrit by Thursday.16:09
KiallCool :)16:09
mlavalleKiall: but even with the caveats we discussed, I think it is great progress16:09
Kiall++16:09
KiallGotta run! Meeting16:09
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mlavalleKiall, timsim: a /24 PTR zone would be "2.0.192.in-addr.arpa." correct?16:32
Kiallmlavalle:  yep16:33
Kiall3 out of 4 of the octets16:33
mlavalle:-)16:33
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openstackgerritEric Larson proposed openstack/designate-specs: Alias Records Spec  https://review.openstack.org/21478816:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-designateclient: Added appropriate error message for designate cli  https://review.openstack.org/22248317:07
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dhellmannKiall: how are things looking for you, should we plan a client release today?17:37
mugsiedhellmann: i think the gate is now flowwing again17:41
mugsieI know kiall is in a meeting right now. When he gets out I can ping him and see what needs to merge. I *think* everything is on the way in17:43
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mugsiedhellmann: actually - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224667/ is outstanding.... (its the review to bumps pbr to >1.8) - this should probably merge before we cut a release17:45
dhellmannmugsie: makes sense17:45
mugsietimsim: around?17:45
mugsieneed a +A for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224667/17:46
mugsiehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/198665/17:47
mugsiehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/223118/17:47
mugsiehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/219369/17:48
mugsieKiall: timsim ^^^ client patches I think are candidates for the release17:48
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Kialldhellmann: 3 out of 4 of those have been +A'd18:07
Kiall(I left a -1 on the 4th, so.. it's not going to make it in)18:07
KiallBut once they go through check+gate we can tag away18:07
timsimBack now, looks like it's all taken care of18:08
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mugsietimsim: yeah. we did it all with out you18:10
mugsie:P18:10
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timsim:'(18:11
* timsim will never go to lunch again18:11
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timsimKiall, mugsie, pglass just reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1498121 i put in LRC1, agree?18:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1498121 in Designate "Designate accepts a primary zone with non-empty list of masters" [Undecided,New]18:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-designateclient: Make is so exceptions have some message  https://review.openstack.org/21936918:51
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/designate: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/22522118:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-designateclient: Meaningful Exception for over-quota on domains  https://review.openstack.org/22161018:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-designateclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/22466718:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-designateclient: Add formatting of output data  https://review.openstack.org/22311818:59
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Simuhello19:02
Simui try to install designate with a powerdns backend19:02
Simui've a strange issue. my database domains records are not populated to the tables for powerdns19:03
Simucan someone here help me19:03
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Simui  I would be very grateful if someone can help19:04
timsimHave you run `designate-manage powerdns sync` ?19:04
Simuyes19:04
Simuall tables up2date19:04
timsimAh, I misread.19:05
timsimWhat version of Designate are you running?19:05
Simu1.1.119:05
Simuapi version 2015.1.019:05
Simupackages from the ubuntu kilo archive19:06
timsimWhich designate-* services are running?19:06
Simudesignate-agent    designate-api      designate-central  designate-sink19:06
Simuin debug mode i see nothing if something goes wrong19:07
Simui dont unserstand the command sync-all inside the designate shell19:07
Simubut nothing happens if i try19:07
timsimYou should need designate-api,central,pool-manager,mdns  No agent/sink19:07
Simuwhy no sink?19:08
timsimI'm sorry, if you're trying to connect up with Nova/Neutron, you'll need sink, but I'd get Designate up and running before worrying about that.19:08
Simuok19:09
Simuthe problem is that the packages on ubuntu kilo archive don't have a package named pool-manager or similar19:10
timsimYeah, sorry about that, I believe there's an open bug for that.19:10
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Simuok where can i find more information about that19:11
timsimFound the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/designate/+bug/147346019:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1473460 in designate (Ubuntu Vivid) "Package is missing designate services" [Medium,Triaged]19:15
Simuyeah thanks a lot19:16
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pglassso when creating secondary zones...20:36
pglassdesignate accepts my email, but then sets the email to hostmaster@example.com20:36
pglass^ so should 40020:37
pglassand then designate also accepts the ttl I give it in the post request20:37
pglassbut shouldn't the ttl be pulled from master server?20:38
pglassor does designate use that ttl for something else?20:38
pglass^ okay docs say ttl should be null for secondary zones20:40
pglassreporting bugs20:40
pglassor maybe just one bug...20:40
pglassi can also create a secondary zone with an empty list of masters20:43
pglasstimsim: ^ should that be allowed?20:43
timsimI think so...20:43
dhellmannKiall: now that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224667/ has merged are you ready for a client release?20:43
pglassbut then the zone will never be pulled from anywhere?20:43
timsimDesignate can receive notifies, and if there's a secondary zone, set the master (if there are none) to that notifier, I believe.20:44
pglassokay20:46
pglassnot reporting a bug20:46
elarsontimsim: is this a reasonable way to get the serial from a recordset? http://paste.openstack.org/show/473254/20:46
timsimDoes recordset not have a serial field?20:47
timsimnop20:48
timsimI think the serial for a recordset would be == the greatest of it's records.20:48
timsimI don't know if all the records in a recordset are updated when one in the set is serial-wise, if so, I guess that would be reasonable.20:49
timsimI think you could find out in one of the update_status methods in central.20:49
elarsontimsim: I'll look a bit closer there20:54
elarsonah good call20:54
elarsondomain.serial is how pool manager does it20:54
timsimYeah, that makes sense.20:58
timsimJust always keep it up to the latest date I spose.20:58
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Kialldhellmann: sorry, team gathering in Dublin so was out of the office.. Yes, client can now be cut whenever you have a moment .. Thanks!22:19
Kiallpglass / timsim : creating a secondary without s master should not be allowed as far as I remember that code...22:20
openstackgerritPaul Glass proposed openstack/python-designateclient: Layout some functional tests for the V2 CLI  https://review.openstack.org/21630622:26
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openstackgerritPaul Glass proposed openstack/python-designateclient: Layout some functional tests for the V2 CLI  https://review.openstack.org/21630622:32
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