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| kodokuu | Hi, Question : If I have a domain toto.com, Can I create a domain tata.toto.com with designate ? | 09:10 |
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| ekarlso | kodokuu: yes as the same tenant | 09:49 |
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| kodokuu | ekarlso same tenant ? I need just to create a new domain ? | 10:16 |
| ekarlso | kodokuu: just create a new domain ye | 10:17 |
| kodokuu | ok | 10:19 |
| kodokuu | and the feature like tenantA.domain.com, tenantB.domain.com is possible, in future ? | 10:19 |
| ekarlso | kodokuu: good q :/ | 10:45 |
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| untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 11:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1416264 | 11:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1415560 | 11:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1413806 | 11:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1412431 | 11:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1416337 | 11:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1416263 | 11:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1413024 | 11:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1289444 | 11:03 |
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| dvorak | I'm investigating using designate for our prod environment, and I'm curious if people would recommend using juno or master | 15:08 |
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| dvorak | juno branch rather | 15:08 |
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| timsim | dvorak: Juno is best at the moment. | 15:09 |
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| kodokuu | Hi, I enabled keystone authentification and now I can't reach records with API : 404 errors | 15:13 |
| kodokuu | ekarlso Kiall_ http://pastebin.com/6ZjvF9nD | 15:14 |
| zhang_liang | Kiall_, is the doc for msdns-agent ready ? or there is any new design for that? | 15:14 |
| kodokuu | When I request /domains I have 0 domain O_o | 15:15 |
| Kiall_ | zhang_liang: apologies, I'm literally back in the office today after like a month of travel.. | 15:16 |
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| Kiall | (actually back in the office for like 6 minutes so far) | 15:16 |
| Kiall | kodokuu: Now that you have auth enabled, the domains are registered under the "no project" project, but your request is for a specific project | 15:17 |
| timsim | kodokuu: If you were using the noauth middleware before, you're zones/records will be under the tenant "noauth-project" | 15:17 |
| kodokuu | yes i see tenant_id in domains table | 15:17 |
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| Kiall | You can drop into the DB and change all the tenant_id columns to whatever your keystone tenant (also known as project) id is | 15:17 |
| kodokuu | So Can I have one domains for all tenant ? | 15:17 |
| Kiall | Out of the box, no.. The system is multi-tenant, one tenant can't see or change another tenant's stuff | 15:18 |
| Kiall | You can edit the policy.json file to allow everyone "all_tenants" access, then GET /v1/domains?all_tenants=True to get everything if you like... | 15:19 |
| kodokuu | ok Each tenant can create domain like tenantA.mydomain.com, tenantB.mydomain.com ? | 15:19 |
| Kiall | Is this Juno or master? | 15:20 |
| kodokuu | Juno | 15:20 |
| Kiall | (different way of doing that in juno vs master) | 15:20 |
| dvorak | Kiall: but at that point, you have to trust your tenants not to break each other? | 15:20 |
| Kiall | dvorak: Yes, but how else would you allow different tenants access to the same zone without trust? | 15:21 |
| Kiall | (Hence we don't allow 1 tenant to change another tenants stuff out of the box) | 15:21 |
| dvorak | I'm not complaining, just making sure I understood correctly :) | 15:21 |
| Kiall | ah :) | 15:21 |
| kodokuu | yes, now i just need all instance create a record in same tenant, and all users of all tenant can create a records in this domain | 15:21 |
| kodokuu | create in same domain* | 15:21 |
| Kiall | So - Effectivly, everyone has access to everything in the domain? or am I reading that wrong? | 15:22 |
| kodokuu | yes | 15:22 |
| kodokuu | everyone has access | 15:22 |
| kodokuu | But If each domain can manage his domain, How sink add records ? | 15:23 |
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| Kiall | Sink has access to everything, so can do anything with any zone regardles of who owns it. The stock sink handlers are intended as little more than examples for you to customize - everyone wants something different from sink - so we wrote some examples and made it support plugins to decide exactly what to do when it sees an event | 15:25 |
| Kiall | So - When sink get's an "instance created event" you might want to create <instance>.domain.com, or <instance>.tenant1.com, or <instance>.tenant1.domain.com, etc | 15:26 |
| kodokuu | <instance>.tenant1.domain.com | 15:26 |
| kodokuu | But before that i need to create one domain for each tenant ? | 15:27 |
| kodokuu | And change tenant_id in mysql with each tenant | 15:27 |
| Kiall | So, none of the samples will do that, but writing a plugin is pretty easy.. We have a sample (including all the python packaging boilerplate etc) here: https://github.com/openstack/designate/tree/master/contrib/designate-ext-samplehandler | 15:27 |
| kodokuu | ok and if i need <instance>.domain.com ? | 15:29 |
| kodokuu | with keystone authenficaiton | 15:29 |
| Kiall | The stock sink handlers will create those records, but end users won't be able to see them via the API unless they belong to the same tenant as the domain does... If you want that, you can do the all_tenants thing I mentioned above | 15:30 |
| kodokuu | ok with /v1/domains?all_tenants=True ? | 15:30 |
| timsim | kodokuu: HTTP header X-Auth-All-Projects = True | 15:32 |
| Kiall | Yea, that'll return all domains - so long as the end user passes the all_tenants policy | 15:32 |
| Kiall | timsim: or ^ header.. both are accepted | 15:32 |
| Kiall | https://github.com/openstack/designate/blob/stable/juno/etc/designate/policy.json#L8 is the default rule | 15:32 |
| Kiall | changing that to "all_tenants": "@", would let everyone in | 15:32 |
| zhang_liang | understand, Kiall, could you please provide the doc about msdns-agent by the end of week, I would be happy and spend my whole weekend on it if that happens. | 15:32 |
| Kiall | (@ is the oslo.policy way of saying "This rule will always pass") | 15:33 |
| kodokuu | ok works | 15:33 |
| dvorak | Kiall: so owner is always at the domain level, not at the record level then? | 15:33 |
| Kiall | kodokuu: also, there is future work been talked about before around "sharing" a zone.. e.g. zone is owned by tenant1, but tenant1 chooses to allow tenant2 and tenant3 access, but not tenant4 etc | 15:33 |
| kodokuu | But I'am admin, so for that i need to change policy like "all_tenants": "rule:admin" ==> "all_tenants": "" ? | 15:34 |
| Kiall | owner is a tenant_id match between the domain and user | 15:34 |
| Kiall | "all_tenants": "rule:admin" ==> "all_tenants": "@" - the @ is oslo.policy way of saying "This rule will always pass" | 15:34 |
| kodokuu | ok i test now :p | 15:35 |
| Kiall | (The policy.json file is a config file BTW - Just not one 90% of users would need to customize..) | 15:35 |
| Kiall | zhang_liang: I can make that work :) | 15:39 |
| kodokuu | Ok works, Sink record in my domain, and i can see with API :) | 15:41 |
| Kiall | :) | 15:42 |
| kodokuu | But my dev told me hard to add X-Auth-All-Projects: True with binding python for ansible | 15:42 |
| Kiall | Both the query string and the header do the same thing, just 2 ways of supplying it | 15:43 |
| kodokuu | RedHat does not want add designate to RDO ? | 15:47 |
| Kiall | Unsure, I've not spoke with any of the RDO folks | 15:49 |
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| kodokuu | I have a contact with a red hat engineer who RDO package. I can ask him | 15:54 |
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| Kiall | vinod: about? | 16:02 |
| vinod | yes | 16:03 |
| Kiall | re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152174/ | 16:03 |
| Kiall | I'm thinking the def get_action_and_status(self, recordset): method you added in the RRSet view should really be attached to the RRSet object instead.. Thoughts? | 16:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/designate: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/152710 | 16:04 |
| vinod | so do you want method with the RRset object or the action and status fields (which would be calculated) on the rrset object? | 16:05 |
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| Kiall | I think that method would split into 2 - 1 for action, 1 for status.. those would be defined as @property methods on the RRSet object, and they could be used like recordset['action'] or recordset.action etc, but you wouldn't be able to set them directly | 16:07 |
| Kiall | I think.. Hence asking what you think ;) | 16:07 |
| vinod | that sounds good - i will do that | 16:07 |
| Kiall | Looking at the base object code.. https://github.com/openstack/designate/blob/master/designate/objects/base.py#L363 | 16:08 |
| vinod | how about the calculation of the status and action - any thoughts on that? | 16:08 |
| kodokuu | How can I add X-Auth-All-Projects: True with python client ? | 16:08 |
| Kiall | I think we still have some issues with how you calculate it - But - I'm not sure if it's worth blocking this review on. Specifically, if I update the RRSet TTL - All records change, but nothing changes to PENDING | 16:09 |
| vinod | hmm for that we need to modify the central code - i think | 16:11 |
| Kiall | Yea - I've not given much thought to the right way to do that yet.. | 16:11 |
| Kiall | Literally just back in the office after way too much travel. | 16:12 |
| Kiall | kodokuu: Ehh - Looking at the python bindings, I'm not sure we expose a way to trigger that .. Humm | 16:12 |
| vinod | Kiall, when you have a chance - could you also review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148779/ | 16:13 |
| Kiall | You can certainly do it in a roundabout way, by setting the headers field on a Reuests session then, using that to create a Keystoneclient Session, then finally give that session to the Designate bindings | 16:13 |
| Kiall | vinod: yep, trying to work through code reviews now :) | 16:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Endre Karlson proposed openstack/designate: Support secondary zones https://review.openstack.org/133682 | 16:31 |
| ekarlso | timsim: ^ addressed your comments | 16:31 |
| timsim | Cool! | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Endre Karlson proposed openstack/designate: MDNS part of Secondary zones https://review.openstack.org/133683 | 16:38 |
| ekarlso | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133683/18/designate/mdns/handler.py | 16:39 |
| ekarlso | regarding your comment there timsim I think the idea was to add zones based on some special rrdata | 16:40 |
| timsim | Interesting, so you would query the master for some private-use recordset and transfer/add if so? | 16:41 |
| ekarlso | timsim: I think that's outside this atm ;P | 16:43 |
| ekarlso | Kiall: maybe u got a clue on ^? | 16:44 |
| timsim | Oh I definitely agree. | 16:44 |
| ekarlso | timsim: another issue that I've not addressed at | 16:45 |
| ekarlso | is where to place logic for periodic sync a'la scan for domains where the domain is expired and re-axfr them | 16:45 |
| timsim | I still think Designate should catch that DomainNotFound exception and handle it gracefully though. I guess it's not the worst thing in the world if that function just stops when it can't find it though. | 16:45 |
| ekarlso | timsim: yeah, I did return response if it's not found now | 16:46 |
| timsim | Not here yet? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133683/ | 16:47 |
| ekarlso | nope -,,- | 16:48 |
| timsim | I suppose periodic sync could ask for an AXFR, but it would seem ok to me that you could either just resend the NOTIFY from the master side, or touch the zone, which would ask for an AXFR, rather than have Periodic Sync do it. | 16:48 |
| timsim | touch via the API that is | 16:48 |
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| ekarlso | timsim: but meh, what happens if someone asks designate for a query then in a zone that's expired ? | 16:48 |
| timsim | Hm. Well I suppose at that point it should check it's master. Or just send back "you're all good." If you've got a lot of secondary zones it would put a lot of strain on mdns trying to do axfrs every time a refresh interval came up. | 16:50 |
| timsim | Of course, you'd still have to do a database query to find out of it's a secondary zone. | 16:51 |
| timsim | So wouldn't it just send back whatever is in it's database? | 16:51 |
| timsim | it=Designate | 16:51 |
| ekarlso | hmm sure | 16:52 |
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| ekarlso | timsim: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133683/18/designate/mdns/xfr.py what piece would you want to have moved ? | 16:58 |
| timsim | it seems like you could have that domain_sync function in dnsutils, and use the current do_axfr function that's in there for some of that. | 16:59 |
| timsim | Then you could elimnate the Class and the rest of the file. | 16:59 |
| timsim | Just a refactoring thing, not that important. | 16:59 |
| mugsie | /j #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:59 |
| mugsie | /j #openstack-meeting-alt | 16:59 |
| Kiall | lol | 17:01 |
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| untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 17:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1416264 | 17:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1415560 | 17:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1413806 | 17:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1412431 | 17:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1416337 | 17:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1416263 | 17:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1413024 | 17:03 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1289444 | 17:03 |
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| dvorak | So we're using galera to do mysql replication across sites, but our RabbitMQ clusters are local to each site. Would it be possible to have a separate Designate instance in each site, but share a database, so that domains don't have to be site specific? | 17:23 |
| dvorak | Seems like that could be a really bad idea, depending on how the messaging works | 17:23 |
| timsim | dvorak: We're in #openstack-meeting-alt right now, you should join us :) and ask that question during open discussion (right now) | 17:25 |
| dvorak | doh, I forgot the time changed | 17:25 |
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| filler | hi dvorak | 17:52 |
| filler | glad to see another designate ops/infra/arch person here. :) | 17:53 |
| dvorak | Well, hopefuilly I'll know enough about designate in the not so distant future to fit that description :) | 17:54 |
| filler | well, we too are going through the motions of how to scale this out for production use. | 17:55 |
| dvorak | ah, ok :) | 17:56 |
| dvorak | do you mind saying who you're with? | 17:56 |
| filler | dvorak: yep. i work at rackspace with timsim, vinod, others. | 17:56 |
| dvorak | ah, cool :) | 17:56 |
| dvorak | I'm with Time Warner Cable. I'm finishing up some other work and just started working out how we might use designate. We've gotten a lot of requests from our internal customers for DNS. It's a big pain point | 17:59 |
| filler | can i ask what your resolver backend is? bind9? powerdns? | 17:59 |
| dvorak | still working that out, I'm playing with powerdns for the time being | 18:00 |
| filler | or is that up in the air for the internal greenfield also | 18:00 |
| filler | ah, ok | 18:00 |
| dvorak | we currently use infoblox for our auth dns, so given that it's a domain per tenant, we might do integration there | 18:00 |
| dvorak | we'll have to work out what the intake process will look like | 18:01 |
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| boris-42 | Kiall: hey | 18:20 |
| boris-42 | Kiall: there are some new benchmarks recently merged into Rally | 18:20 |
| boris-42 | Kiall: maybe we should put them in designate gates? | 18:29 |
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| dkingshott | Are there any troubleshooting docs for designate? I've deployed but am getting an error when creating a new domain and nothing is being logged to indicate the error.. | 18:43 |
| timsim | dkingshott: Is debug logging on? | 18:44 |
| dkingshott | Sure is. | 18:44 |
| timsim | Interesting...I've usually found some hint there. | 18:44 |
| dkingshott | it's a very generic error: Error 'DNS' | 18:45 |
| timsim | We don't have troubleshooting docs, per se. If you describe the deployment you're working on, we might be able to help though :) | 18:45 |
| dkingshott | Ok, so I actually sit about 6 feet away from Kiall's boss :) I followed the 'getting started guide' on docs.openstack.org, straight up powerdns back end with DB. | 18:46 |
| Kiall | dkingshott: I'm pretty sure I met you like 2.5 weeks ago ;) | 18:46 |
| dkingshott | Yep :) | 18:46 |
| dkingshott | The english guy... | 18:46 |
| Kiall | Yep - That;s the one | 18:47 |
| Kiall | If Error 'DNS' is coming out of the CLI, it's because of a missing keystone catalog entry for the DNS service. | 18:47 |
| dkingshott | Ok, even if it's not integrated with keystone? | 18:47 |
| Kiall | (Keystoneclient raises an excetion with 'dns' as the message) | 18:47 |
| dkingshott | I see.. so the getting started guide needs updating then :) | 18:47 |
| Kiall | Ah.. Yes, we have a docs sprint next week to refresh our docs ;) | 18:48 |
| dkingshott | I did see bug 1268310 but didn't think it applied as I hadn't integrated keystone, i'll go back and do that and see how far I get | 18:48 |
| dkingshott | thank you. | 18:48 |
| Kiall | you can supply a token and endpoint directly with --os-token and --os-endpoint args to the CLI | 18:48 |
| Kiall | Bypassing Keystone that way | 18:48 |
| dkingshott | got it. thanks | 18:49 |
| Kiall | the keystone catalog* | 18:49 |
| Kiall | and if KS integration isn't on, any old token value will do | 18:49 |
| dkingshott | cool.. got further and have a different error now, so i'll dig some more, thank you Kiall | 18:50 |
| Kiall | Heh - Never a good thing. | 18:51 |
| Kiall | Let us know what's missing from the docs, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/designate-documentation-sprint is the WIP list of things we're going to try tackle next week | 18:51 |
| Kiall | dkingshott: and if your guys are bored the morning of Fri 13th - Join us to help fix the gaps ;) | 18:53 |
| Kiall | you guys* | 18:53 |
| Kiall | boris-42: heya, I saw Rama added those :) | 18:54 |
| boris-42 | Kiall: ya | 18:55 |
| Kiall | I'll have a look and see if I can add them to our gate, see how that section of code performs ;) | 18:58 |
| boris-42 | Kiall: ok =) btw you can put bigger load | 19:02 |
| boris-42 | Kiall: even in current one | 19:02 |
| dvorak | I've not seen designate-agent or designate-pool-manager mentioned in any of the docs. Are they not commonly used? | 19:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Endre Karlson proposed openstack/designate: MDNS part of Secondary zones https://review.openstack.org/133683 | 19:13 |
| timsim | dvorak: They've very new. No docs for them yet. | 19:14 |
| dvorak | ah, ok. I just realized that while I switched to the juno branch, I didn't rerun the local install to switch to the juno bits | 19:15 |
| dvorak | dkingshott: I just ran into the same 'dns' error :) | 19:17 |
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| timsim | rjrjr: Is the memcached stuff in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149428/6 testable or does it need more work? | 19:20 |
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| vinod1 | kiall: Re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152174/, adding readonly fields to the Recordset object seems to be a messy implementation with checks at various places in base.py to check if this is a computed field - any ideas on how to do this more cleanly? | 19:57 |
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| Kiall | I think we get most of it for free by not defining a field, and doing an @property method | 20:00 |
| Kiall | vinod1: ^ | 20:00 |
| vinod1 | Hmm - I seem to have seen some problems with that - let me try that again | 20:02 |
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| vinod1 | Kiall: The problem with that I see is that the status and action seem to be evaluated at the object creation time - so they are always the default values - 'ACTIVE' and 'NONE | 20:11 |
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| rjrjr_ | timsim: the cache work is ready to test/review/etc. | 22:35 |
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