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| harmw | ok vinod, lets see if I can doe something to get this working on havana then | 09:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/designate: General Plugin Cleanups https://review.openstack.org/72284 | 09:44 |
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| mugsie | harmw: that requirement is part of the global openstack requirements - https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/global-requirements.txt | 12:18 |
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| harmw | mugsie: thanks, but how would this fit into a havana deployment? | 12:52 |
| harmw | or should I just upgrade to icehouse (which isn't gold yet, right?) | 12:53 |
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| mugsie | harmw: that was the requirement for Openstack in Havana | 13:03 |
| mugsie | (all Openstack projects HAVE to keep the same requirements) | 13:04 |
| mugsie | i just checked the nova / havana branch - it is 2.4.8 there as well | 13:04 |
| harmw | hm, weird | 13:16 |
| harmw | let me check what my setup says about that :) | 13:17 |
| harmw | ah, perhaps I've built/compiled my designate rpm against the openstack version from epel (instead of rdo) | 13:20 |
| harmw | anyway, thanks for the pointers mugsie | 13:20 |
| mugsie | no problem | 13:26 |
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| harmw | hm, im running openstack-nova-2013.2.1-1.el6.noarch but that uses python-kombu-1.1.3-1.el6.noarch | 15:56 |
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| mugsie | harmw: epel packages may tweak the requirements - I am not massivly familiar with CentOS i am afraid | 16:09 |
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| harmw | np, Ill happily dive into this myself :) | 16:21 |
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| vinod | kiall: are you around? | 16:34 |
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| betsy | mugsie: you around? | 16:58 |
| mugsie | betsy: hey whats up? | 16:59 |
| betsy | I think my blacklist patch is ready to be merged. Do you want to approve it or should I? | 17:00 |
| mugsie | did i not? | 17:00 |
| mugsie | sorry, I meant to - will do it now | 17:00 |
| betsy | You +2'd it, but didn't approve, so it's not merged | 17:01 |
| betsy | thanks! :) | 17:01 |
| mugsie | ah - my mistake | 17:01 |
| mugsie | that is heading in now | 17:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/designate: Create API calls to Manage Blacklisted Domains https://review.openstack.org/65359 | 17:10 |
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| tsimmons | kiall: mugsie: Are you about? | 17:31 |
| mugsie | hey | 17:31 |
| tsimmons | hey, so I was looking at the devstack plugin and the Jenkins jobs. I recently did some bind9 stuff, and I was thinking I could work on integrating bind9 into the devstack plugin/ jenkins setup | 17:32 |
| kiall | tsimmons: heya - Yea, getting BIND9 into the devstack plugin would be great! | 17:35 |
| kiall | I recently moved the devstack plugin from it's own repo to https://github.com/stackforge/designate/tree/master/contrib/devstack | 17:36 |
| kiall | Makes MUCH more sense there | 17:36 |
| tsimmons | Right. So that's everything right? I was looking over it and didn't see much about MySQL or Postgres which is what that Jenkins server is running. | 17:37 |
| kiall | Ah - So, that's a plugin to devstack itself: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/ | 17:38 |
| kiall | which provides mysql/postgres | 17:38 |
| kiall | https://github.com/stackforge/designate/blob/master/contrib/devstack/lib/designate | 17:39 |
| kiall | has (some) powerdns stuff in it | 17:39 |
| kiall | e.g. https://github.com/stackforge/designate/blob/master/contrib/devstack/lib/designate#L176 - Installing PowerDNS | 17:40 |
| kiall | Getting the DB setup: https://github.com/stackforge/designate/blob/master/contrib/devstack/lib/designate#L161 | 17:40 |
| tsimmons | Ok, that's what I thought. So bind9 would kind of go along beside that. Then perhaps after that we could set up Jenkins jobs to use them both to test commits on, or do those already use powerdns? | 17:40 |
| kiall | and, telling Designate to use it: | 17:40 |
| kiall | https://github.com/stackforge/designate/blob/master/contrib/devstack/lib/designate#L75 | 17:40 |
| kiall | the missing piece is pointing PowerDNS at the right database though ;) | 17:40 |
| kiall | today, they just use the fake backend.. Regarding the Jenkins jobs - I talked with the infra guys, we should be able to make use of the standard openstack jenkins, without the 24->48 hour delay to get results... | 17:41 |
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| kiall | So - Once we have powerDNS/bind in there and working right.. We should probably just switch over to that.. But it's tricky getting it working right :) | 17:42 |
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| tsimmons | Ah, ok. So basically I'll modify those current scripts to allow it to install bind9, as an option, and test it by actually running devstack + the designate plugin with that option and making sure it works. | 17:43 |
| kiall | Yep - Once we have that, it's figuring out how to convince the OpenStack jenkins to run with the plugin+our options | 17:44 |
| kiall | Which seems to be harder that it should be ;) | 17:44 |
| kiall | Worst case - We can add more jobs to our Jenkins in the meantime, if we can't figure ^ out soon | 17:44 |
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| tsimmons | Right, well we can't directly control that it seems. :P | 17:44 |
| tsimmons | Yeah that works too. | 17:45 |
| kiall | We kinda can ;) It's all in Git, but it's a maze to try and understand what's actually happening and what calls what ;) | 17:45 |
| tsimmons | Hm. Well that can come later. i'll start working on this bit….after lunch. | 17:46 |
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| vinod | kiall: I had a few questions on your comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72017/1/designate/manage/tlds.py | 17:49 |
| vinod | Can we get the context or do we have to use self.context? | 17:50 |
| kiall | If we're just looking for "any old context" like we are there, then we should use self.context rather than building a new one.. | 17:51 |
| kiall | Part of the reasoning is that the request_id on self.context is forced to be "designate-manage", so it's traceable in the logs | 17:51 |
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| vinod | can we get a context with the actual user running desiginate-manage? | 17:52 |
| kiall | Since designate-manage doesn't make API calls - there is no user (at least, no Keystone user) | 17:52 |
| vinod | which brings me to the other comment that you had about redundant code - does it make sense for designate-manage to do the api calls rather than call central? | 17:54 |
| kiall | The other comment was more about something we should fix in the future, and less about your review :) | 17:56 |
| kiall | i.e. some of our validations should be moved inwards, towards central. | 17:56 |
| kiall | That way - the API, designate-manage, MiniDNS (if/when it learns to handle write queries) can share it | 17:57 |
| kiall | oh - tsimmons BTW - that review still a total experiment, trying to understand how things need to be updated to adapt.. It most likely won't merge as is.. Once I have a better idea of how it might tie in, I'll file a BP detailing it | 18:00 |
| vinod | With the import tlds in designate-manage, we cannot track who ran the command - correct - only somebody with admin access. | 18:01 |
| mugsie | vinod: yup | 18:02 |
| kiall | Yea, someone who had access to SSH to the server (and could read the designate config file..) | 18:02 |
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| vinod | this looks to be a problem for us | 18:08 |
| vinod | we would like to track who added the entries even if it as an admin | 18:08 |
| vinod | and preferably without ssh access | 18:09 |
| vinod | Emmanuel had another suggestion - adding multiple tld entries to the api | 18:09 |
| vinod | either at the same endpoint for create or a different end point | 18:09 |
| vinod | thoughts? | 18:09 |
| kiall | Yea - Once we figure out how we do "bulk" API actions, that should be extendable to all the API resources - including TLD's | 18:10 |
| eankutse1 | Kiall | 18:13 |
| eankutse1 | I was thinking that just as we create records | 18:13 |
| mugsie | vinod: i think your proposal could be useful for most operators, just not massive ones | 18:13 |
| eankutse1 | and specify more than one record (I am assuming we are able to specify more than one record) | 18:13 |
| mugsie | so I say we get yours in, and then look at the API bulk actions later on | 18:13 |
| eankutse1 | we can specify more than on TLD entry in the request and get it all added in one request | 18:14 |
| kiall | eankutse1: today, we don't supporting adding multiple records in the API.. One of the "bulk .." blueprints talks about adding it (can't remember which) | 18:15 |
| kiall | Launchpad seems to be down .. So can check :/ | 18:15 |
| kiall | can't* | 18:15 |
| eankutse1 | ok. thx | 18:15 |
| vinod | mugsie: Are you saying that you want the current code review to be submitted (changes to designate-manage?) | 18:15 |
| mugsie | yeah, with the few modifications that Kiall suggested | 18:16 |
| kiall | mugsie / vinod .. I think it depends.. If we're going to get bulk actions done soon, then it makes sense to leave out the designate-manage piece | 18:16 |
| vinod | kiall / mugsie: Currently the only way to add TLDs is calling the API. How about providing the designate-manage piece as an interim solution till we get the bulk action done. Once that is done we can remove this | 18:22 |
| kiall | vinod: Sounds good to me | 18:22 |
| mugsie | vinod: +1 | 18:22 |
| vinod | Thanks kiall and mugsie. I will make the changes that kiall suggested and submit it shortly | 18:23 |
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| tsimmons | kiall: Totally cool. I was having a bit of trouble understanding it without seeing it in context, but that makes sense. | 18:41 |
| kiall | Yea - It's not actually used anywhere yet, still trying to figure out how it might hook in :) | 18:42 |
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| mugsie | my abstract is up - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D6FcXMiWMvFTIggWiRu3VajVTnerCFDErTdafcSyxl0/edit?usp=sharing | 20:12 |
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| tsimmons | And mine: | 20:14 |
| tsimmons | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xIprT3xEzujFPWJhVGnIKRdsB7gkmpgTgo0DfG3Ml4s/edit?usp=sharing | 20:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vinod Mangalpally proposed a change to stackforge/designate: Import TLDs to Designate https://review.openstack.org/72017 | 21:00 |
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| artom | Hopefully I didn't embarrass myself with my first review... | 21:29 |
| kiall | artom: consider yourself embarrassed | 21:29 |
| kiall | (Kidding - haven't read it) | 21:30 |
| artom | Aww, I started blushing and everything. | 21:30 |
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| kiall | Is it at all possible do to the validation using the same code as the API? [1] If we're going to validate in different places, we should at least validate in the same way ;) <-- I left a similar comment on the last revision - It's something we need to cleanup later | 21:30 |
| artom | I thought yours was about *where* we do validation. | 21:31 |
| artom | Accepting that for now we're doing in two different places, can we use the same schema validator in both? | 21:31 |
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| kiall | We do :) | 21:31 |
| kiall | from designate.schema import format <-- same thing the API uses | 21:32 |
| kiall | (kinda) | 21:32 |
| artom | But for example the description length is checked to be < 160 "manually" | 21:32 |
| kiall | Yea, I don't think it's possible to actually just apply the JSON schema here .. | 21:33 |
| kiall | (I think) | 21:33 |
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| kiall | So - We're left re-using the validators like he us | 21:33 |
| artom | Hrmm, it might indeed be more work to convert CSV -> JSON to reuse the schema. | 21:34 |
| artom | As you said, consider myself embarassed. | 21:34 |
| kiall | Don't be - I picked that up too, just the fix is more complex than would be nice :( | 21:35 |
| artom | lets moev all validashun to central lul | 21:36 |
| kiall | Kinda ;) | 21:37 |
| kiall | I'm thinking the central rpcapi.py file is a good place, still runs "client" side (i.e. in the api, or minidns, or..) but is shared | 21:38 |
| kiall | the trick is the error "formats" are different between v1 and v2 | 21:38 |
| artom | Formatting isn't handled by middleware? | 21:39 |
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| kiall | Not that stuff, no.. | 21:44 |
| kiall | It's handled currently in the APIv2 views | 21:44 |
| kiall | which might extend to include validation errors or something | 21:44 |
| vinod | artom: Thanks for doing the review. The more eyes the better | 21:50 |
| vinod | But as kiall mentioned rather than convert to json and do the same validation as api - i did the equivalent | 21:51 |
| artom | vinod, fair enough. | 21:51 |
| vinod | Regarding your other comment about being Pythonic, being new to Python, I am not sure what the standard is | 21:53 |
| vinod | I just went by (1) No complaints from tox (2) Easy to read/understand | 21:53 |
| artom | Bah, 'if errors:' reads easier than 'if errors > 0:' | 21:53 |
| vinod | Personally I like explicit validations :-) | 21:54 |
| kiall | python -c 'import this' <-- vinod definition of "Pythonic" is basically printed ;) | 21:54 |
| vinod | But I can go ahead and make the change | 21:54 |
| artom | As I said, microscopic nit :) | 21:55 |
| vinod | Explicit is better than implicit. - 2nd line in there | 21:55 |
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| artom | Are they in descending order? | 21:56 |
| artom | Because 'Readability counts' is in there ;) | 21:56 |
| vinod | I assume so - since you have | 21:56 |
| vinod | Simple is better than complex. | 21:57 |
| vinod | Complex is better than complicated. | 21:57 |
| artom | Anyways, let me write up a long rant to start a flamewar. Then, when no one's talking to each other, someone who's stayed out of it can +2 and your patch will discretely merge ;) | 21:58 |
| artom | Isn't that how style issues are normally solved? | 21:58 |
| kiall | artom: ++ :P | 21:58 |
| harmw | btw guys, I'm seeing some quantum* stuff in /etc/designate/designate.conf.. you might want to change those to neutron | 22:00 |
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| kiall | harmw: I think we have in the current master branch.. | 22:01 |
| kiall | (I think) | 22:01 |
| harmw | ah ok | 22:01 |
| harmw | im looking at 2013.2, so... | 22:01 |
| harmw | :) | 22:01 |
| harmw | 2014-02-11 23:00:55 ERROR [designate.openstack.common.threadgroup] 'Connection' object has no attribute 'connection_errors' | 22:03 |
| harmw | anyone seen that before btw? | 22:03 |
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| kiall | harmw: Humm - Yes, I think I have at some point.. | 22:10 |
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| kiall | From memory - it's an old dependency somewhere | 22:10 |
| kiall | How did you install designate? | 22:11 |
| harmw | from rpm, though a missing dep could very well be the case here | 22:11 |
| harmw | (I'm rolling my own rpms) | 22:11 |
| kiall | Ah.. Okay. Then I'd be pretty sure it's a dep :) | 22:12 |
| kiall | harmw: everything we use is a subset of what all the other services use.. | 22:13 |
| kiall | So - http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/havana/main/binary-amd64/Packages has the versions we depend on | 22:13 |
| kiall | But it's a bugger list than we need! | 22:14 |
| harmw | thanks :) | 22:14 |
| kiall | https://github.com/stackforge/designate/blob/stable/havana/requirements.txt | 22:14 |
| kiall | is the specific ones we use | 22:14 |
| kiall | but there not all version pinned | 22:14 |
| harmw | I'm looking at the .txt right now | 22:14 |
| kiall | That last link was the havana .txt, master will be different | 22:14 |
| harmw | something else I'm wondering about, shouldn't I be able to configure my rabbit account somewhere in designate.conf? | 22:15 |
| harmw | yea, I'm using havana so thats ok :) | 22:15 |
| kiall | Yea - we just dont have all the options in there | 22:15 |
| harmw | ah ok, so its just the usual (rabbit_userid/rabbit_password/rabbit_host) | 22:16 |
| kiall | Yep - It's the same options as the other services .. | 22:16 |
| harmw | excellent | 22:16 |
| kiall | (That code is actually shared among most of the projects) | 22:16 |
| harmw | http://designate.readthedocs.org/en/latest/configuration.html lists them aswell, nice | 22:17 |
| kiall | BTW - I assume RDO has all the right deps for Havana? | 22:17 |
| harmw | yea, I'm running havana already - just trying to get designate to roll with it :) its just some more work since RDO doesn't supply the designate package, leaving me to do the hard work of going through deps and all | 22:18 |
| harmw | (and I'm not installing it on my controller yet, so nothing is installed out of necessity by any of the other packages) | 22:19 |
| kiall | harmw: BTW - If you get a working rpc spec file, and know how to contribute stuff through OpenStacks review process, we'll happily get that into the repo .. People keep asking for RPM's | 22:22 |
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| harmw | bingo, python-amqplib was missing | 22:38 |
| harmw | ok kiall, thanks | 22:38 |
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