Tuesday, 2013-12-10

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kiallchem / EmilienM  - re ceilometer, as far as I know, we emit all the necessary events for a ceilometer plugin to be written.. But nobody has validated we send enough or started on a ceilometer plugin11:50
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EmilienMkiall: ok, maybe we would need some confirmation from them12:49
EmilienMkiall: i have a ceilo guy in my team, i check with him12:50
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kiallEmilienM: cool :)13:01
openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed a change to stackforge/designate: Provide support for "All Tenants" access  https://review.openstack.org/5978513:04
openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed a change to stackforge/designate: WIP: RRSets  https://review.openstack.org/5940913:04
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artomkiall, should I start thinking about modifying nsd4slave and multi for your recordset changes?14:10
kiallHey artom14:10
kiallI'm working through some of the backends at the moment for that, but haven't looked at NSD just yet :)14:10
kiallIt looks like it should be pretty easy?14:11
kiallSince the methods are no-ops anyway14:11
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed a change to stackforge/designate: WIP: RRSets  https://review.openstack.org/5940914:34
kiallartom: ^ should have the multi/nsd4 backends updated now14:34
artomSo just that simple, eh/14:35
kiallWho knows.. Can you try it? ;)14:35
artomSorry, I'm still trying to get the big picture in my head of how rsets will work.14:35
kiallYea - I wish a whole bunch of smaller commits would work.. But.. Every time I go "Ah, I can go back and do X in isolation" I spend a half day rebasing on top -_-14:36
kiallhttp://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2181.txt section 5 explains what a RRSet is etc14:37
artomAh, hence backends only getting the update and delete recordset methods.14:48
artomI makes no sense to create one.14:48
artomAlso, presumably, update can only change things like TTL, etc...14:49
artomIs that a correct understanding?14:49
artomAh, no, wait, there's a create in the multi backend...14:50
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kiallThere's a create there, just in case the master backend happens to implement one14:50
kiall(since multi is more like a proxy than a real backend)14:51
kiallI don't really see a good example of where a backend actually needs to act on a create, but I'm sure someone will have a use for it14:51
artomSo when you POST a new recordset to the API, what values do you pass it?14:53
artomA list of records basically?14:53
kiallRight now, no.. You create the RRSet, then issue more POST's for the records. The v2 spec allows for managing records "inside" recordset CRUD API calls, but we ran into some issues that made implementing that difficult at best..14:56
kiall(2 RRSet update API calls, 1 to add a record, 1 to delete a record.. both would have to post their view of the final recordset, and 1 would have to "win")14:57
kiallNormally, I'd say "Ok - Document it, and let the user manage concurrency if they wish" .. But, It's not that easy as end user's API calls aren't the only things to add/remove records14:58
artomWait, update and delete need to send the full rrset?14:59
artomAh no...15:00
artom*Update* needs to post the full rrset...15:00
artomBecause there's no way of knowing if a record is being added or deleted.15:00
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed a change to stackforge/designate: WIP: RRSets  https://review.openstack.org/5940915:54
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CaptTofuwhat are the exact dates for your meeting?17:03
mugsieCaptTofu: tomorrow 5pm UTC17:04
CaptTofuthanks! But I asked a question I meant for another meeting :)17:04
mugsiewe replaced the IRC one with the blueprint one17:05
mugsie(this week)17:05
mugsieor a differnet project entirely? ;)17:05
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CaptTofumugsie: completely different project :)17:13
CaptTofuI was typing in one window and irc client decided to bait-and-switch17:13
mugsienice17:13
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