Tuesday, 2013-10-08

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artom Heya20:50
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artomI'm working on a few tools that, while technically standalone, might benefit other Designate users/dev.20:50
artomExample: a Python script that extracts complete zonefiles from a named.conf (for importing), or a daemon that listens to Central's notifications on the MQ and does stuff.20:51
artomIs there a place for them in the official Designate repos?20:52
artomIn a tools directory, for example?20:52
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artomHeh, in *the* tools directory, actually.20:52
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ekarlsoartom: daemon to listen does what exactly ?20:54
artomIn our case it sends commands to a NSD slave.20:54
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artomBut I've tried to make it modular and pluggable and extensible and all that good stuff.20:55
ekarlsoNSD ?20:55
artomhttp://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/nsd/20:55
ekarlsoartom: why not just make a backend plugin instead of sending commands ?20:56
ekarlsowould be the more "apropriate" way20:56
artomIt only needs commands for zone create and delete.20:57
artomEverything else is handled automagically with NOTIFY and AXFR.20:57
artomWhile I agree that a backend would be the more "correct" way, it's a lot of work to reimplement functionality that exists already.20:59
ekarlsoartom: I guess kiall_ is better to answer this ;p21:00
ekarlsoI haven't been doing designate for a looong while :p21:00
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ekarlsoartom: what's better with NSD then other servers ?21:04
artomHehe :)21:04
artomI'll submit for review - that way there's a "paper trace" and worst case, it gets shut down.21:04
ekarlso:o21:04
artomekarlso, it's supposed to be faster and more secure than BIND.21:04
ekarlsoartom: but  basically i think your stuff should be a plugin21:04
ekarlsowhich you could load in central basically21:05
ekarlsomeaning agentless21:05
artomHrmm.21:05
artomSounds indeed better than an external daemon.21:06
artomThough I haven't really groked how plugins work.21:06
ekarlsoartom: it's pretty simple...21:06
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ekarlsobasically a plugin atm at least can be loaded in a agent which receives it's commands from central via rpc21:07
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ekarlsoor the plugin can be loaded in the central process itself21:07
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artomWhere are they added/called in central?21:09
ekarlsole tme look21:11
artomThanks :)21:11
artomClearly I have to extend Plugin...21:13
ekarlsohttps://github.com/stackforge/designate/blob/master/designate/central/service.py#L49-L5021:14
ekarlsothe standard is for central to just load up a RPC driver that does commands to agents21:14
ekarlsohttps://github.com/stackforge/designate/tree/master/designate/backend21:14
ekarlsosee here for drivers21:14
artomThose are just the backends...21:15
artomI still want the PowerDNS backend to run.21:15
ekarlso?!21:15
ekarlsoyou want to use 2 diff backends ?21:15
artomNo no.21:16
artomSome context: a requirement for this project I'm on is that Designate and the DNS servers that actually handle queries can't be on the same server.21:17
ekarlsowrite a plugin, have the plugin send commands to the nsd daemons ?21:17
ekarlsothat's loaded into central21:17
artomWell, yes, except NSD doesn't have a 'add record' command, for example.21:18
artomIf it's a slave for a zone, it uses AXFR.21:18
artomSo a NSD backend would have to either implement AXFR, or...21:19
artomOr do what the BIND backend does now, and write zonefiles and reload the server.21:19
artomExcept writing zonefiles to a remote NSD server is tricky.21:19
artomIf not tricky, at least non-trivial.21:19
artomIf we use the PowerDNS backend, it handles AXFR for us.21:20
artomWe just need to let the NSD server know of zone additions and deletions, because AXFR doesn't do that.21:20
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eankutse"either way the end is near. ;)" LOL :-)!22:26
eankutseSorry - wrong IRC22:26
ekarlsoeankutse: which end ? :p22:27
eankutseSorry, sorry. I did not mean to be an alarmist :-)22:28
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