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| eankutse | Hello mugsie: | 13:41 |
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| eankutse | Server Pools Phase 2: " Zone serial numbers will move to a incrementing integer (from the current date/time stamp format)". | 13:41 |
| eankutse | I think the current date/time stamp format has an added value of indicating when zone was last updated which an incrementing integer does not. Does keeping the date/timestamp make for a more difficult design/implementation of server pools? | 13:41 |
| mugsie | eankutse: yes, as when we move to async, it is how we are going to track what change is active | 14:08 |
| mugsie | it is much easier to check if thinks are out of sync if it is a incrementing integer | 14:08 |
| mugsie | the updated time can be pulled frm the API, but it is a loss on the information presented to people querying the dns server directly | 14:09 |
| eankutse | k. THx | 14:11 |
| eankutse | On server pools scheduler - "allow for multiple pools, and per tenant pools". What is the current initial thoughts on the functionality of this component ? Is this the replacement for v1 Bind9 Agent concept? | 14:11 |
| mugsie | yeah, pool-manager will totoally replace the agent | 14:15 |
| mugsie | for the functionality, I am not sure yet | 14:15 |
| mugsie | i need to flesh it out | 14:15 |
| eankutse | k. So, pool-manager replaces agent. But what is the pools scheduler? What is the intent for that piece? | 14:16 |
| mugsie | when a domain is created, it will decide what server pool to assign the domain to | 14:17 |
| kiall | eankutse: You'll be able to have multiple pools, and the scheduler (like nova-scheduler) will decide which pool (like nova-compute node) the zone will be allocated to | 14:18 |
| kiall | (Heya!) | 14:18 |
| * kiall might get back to code next week. He hopes. | 14:18 | |
| kiall | DevOps ain't as fun ;) | 14:19 |
| eankutse | Kiall: you are a scarce resource :-) | 14:19 |
| kiall | Hah... Doing some major changes to our deployment, all hands kinda thing ;) | 14:20 |
| eankutse | k :-) | 14:21 |
| eankutse | Regarding asyc-backends... | 14:21 |
| eankutse | when that is implemented and the user can call to get the status of the operation. It would be nice to provide optional context for the pending request when a user calls for the status - context such as the original request with the details of the url and body. | 14:22 |
| mugsie | eankutse: they wont call a decidcated endpoint to get the status, the just run GET against the zone / record | 14:23 |
| kiall | Yea - mugsie convinced me that was good idea a few days ago.. I'm not sure if he's had any ideas around how it might work though | 14:23 |
| mugsie | and it will have a status of PENDING / ACTIVE | 14:23 |
| kiall | mugsie: don't tell me you've forgot that conversaion? | 14:24 |
| kiall | conversation* | 14:24 |
| mugsie | yeah, but I havent planned for it yet | 14:24 |
| mugsie | I think it needs more thought before putting it forward | 14:24 |
| mugsie | more important to get pools / async in | 14:24 |
| kiall | Ah - That's what I thought | 14:24 |
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| eankutse | Good to know that's in the pipeline. One step at a time :-) | 14:26 |
| kiall | Ok.. Need some lunch. Going to go find something.. back in a few | 14:27 |
| eankutse | Enjoy 0-) | 14:27 |
| eankutse | :) | 14:27 |
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| blinky_ghost | Hi guys, I'm looking for solutions to implement DNS on my openstack cloud. My questions are if Designate is ready for production and where can I start to deploy it? Thanks | 14:46 |
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| mugsie | blinky_ghost: what sort of DNS are you looking to deploy? | 15:14 |
| blinky_ghost | mugsie: I want to deploy DNS to my instances, to private network | 15:15 |
| mugsie | so when they boot they get a dns entry? | 15:16 |
| mugsie | or as a recursive DNS server for the instances to use? | 15:17 |
| blinky_ghost | mugsie: get a dns entry | 15:18 |
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| mugsie | i *think* there currently is a way using the sink plugin - kiall any ideas? | 15:20 |
| kiall | yea, that's one of the things the sink service is intended for.. But it pretty basic, and is intended for rolling your own rather than an out of the box solution. | 15:21 |
| kiall | (everyone has a different idea about what the DNS name for an instance should be...) | 15:22 |
| blinky_ghost | Well i can create my own powerdns/bind server and allow dynamic updates, but just wanted to know if openstack supported it as a service | 15:26 |
| artom | To start another conversation in parallel, since domain-import-export is waiting for review, are there other blueprints I can start on (without stepping on other people's toes)? | 15:42 |
| artom | The scheduler, for example? | 15:42 |
| artom | Though that will be preceded by a lengthy conversation to establish a common vision. | 15:43 |
| mugsie | artom: i think we need to wait until async lands before the schedualer | 15:51 |
| mugsie | but.. | 15:51 |
| mugsie | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Server_Pools#Phase_Three | 15:53 |
| mugsie | any ideas, stick them in there | 15:53 |
| artom | Actually, here's something I don't understand. | 16:13 |
| artom | Pools are exposed in the API. | 16:13 |
| artom | So why the scheduler? | 16:14 |
| artom | If the pool ID is given in the request, doesn't the eliminate scheduler's reason to exist? | 16:14 |
| mugsie | so when someone posts to /domains/ it needs to be assigned to a pool | 16:16 |
| mugsie | sorry, /zones/ | 16:16 |
| mugsie | (pools are not exposed within the /zones/endpoint | 16:21 |
| artom | So pools are exposed for GET /servers and... anything else? | 16:27 |
| mugsie | nope | 16:30 |
| mugsie | (they are embeded within the zone data) - aka in a GET /zones/id there will be pool_id:<blah> | 16:31 |
| artom | Ok, so just to make sure, the client only needs to care about pools when GETing /servers? | 16:32 |
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| mugsie | yeap (for the time being, people might want that changed in the future) | 16:35 |
| artom | Is there a technical reason for that? If you can post a server and have the pool decided by the scheduler, isn't that possible with GET as well? | 16:37 |
| artom | Servers have GUUIDs anyways... | 16:37 |
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| mugsie | it is too allow people to have public / private pools | 16:56 |
| mugsie | so you can decide whare the domain is served from them | 16:57 |
| artom | But then you post a domain and the scheduler decides what pool it goes into... | 17:03 |
| mugsie | thats why it needs to be worked out ;) - we do need a way of forcing a domain on to a patricualar pool | 17:05 |
| artom | Per-tenant maybe? | 17:06 |
| mugsie | also, if there is per teneant pools, and they choose to have it as a "private" pool, it would be the schedualars job to look it up | 17:06 |
| artom | People could create a public and private tenant... | 17:06 |
| mugsie | yeah, that could be one solution.. we do need to fully map out the interctions | 17:07 |
| artom | But then if a single tenant wants multiple pools for whatever reasons... | 17:07 |
| mugsie | nothign is set in stone for this curently | 17:08 |
| mugsie | so, add notes to that page, so when we start to look at it, we know the issues | 17:08 |
| artom | Yeah, I can see there's a lot of stuff to figure out before coding can commence... | 17:09 |
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