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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance-sigs master: Add SIG status tag reference https://review.opendev.org/696456 | 03:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/governance-sigs master: Add SIG guideline https://review.opendev.org/695366 | 03:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance-sigs master: Add SIG guideline https://review.opendev.org/695366 | 04:08 |
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| AJaeger | smcginnis: regarding https://review.opendev.org/#/c/695625/ - what should happen with the repos of the "Operations Docs Sig" if it becomes advisory? | 14:29 |
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| smcginnis | AJaeger: Have we stated anywhere that advisory SIGs can't still own repos? | 14:38 |
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| AJaeger | smcginnis: this is undefined, nothing is stated there. For me a group that is doing adversary work, is not driving anything - and thus I think a discussion about those repos should happen... | 14:45 |
| smcginnis | I do agree this probably should have more discussion. I think that proposed changes match the definition, but I still have some concerns about it. | 14:46 |
| AJaeger | then -1 it ;) | 14:46 |
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| AJaeger | I just don't see progres on these repos, so would retire them. If the SIg is moving to advisory, I don't see how you plan to revive them. | 14:48 |
| smcginnis | I don't see anything saying they need to be retired though. Just because the SIG isn't actively pursuing new things every cycle, I don't think that translate into saying what they have done and are watching out for is no longer valid. | 14:50 |
| smcginnis | It just means there's not as much activity. | 14:50 |
| smcginnis | So I would definitely -1 anything proposing that. | 14:50 |
| smcginnis | This one is just proposing marking the repos to match what we merged as the definition of advisory. | 14:50 |
| AJaeger | smcginnis: If it's advisory, it means that it's not driving anything ever IMO, isn't it? | 14:52 |
| smcginnis | I don't think that's what it says. | 14:52 |
| AJaeger | (yes, you can change back to active) | 14:52 |
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| AJaeger | double checking: yes, the language is not clear - maybe advisory is not the best word here. | 14:53 |
| smcginnis | The only definition I've seen is what's on the status page - "The SIG is not actively meeting or driving specific goals every cycle. SIG members stay around for help, make sure everything stays working and provide advice when needed." | 14:53 |
| smcginnis | That just says there are no meetings and not currently driving any goals. | 14:53 |
| smcginnis | Which is fair for these labels. If there's an intent to go beyond that definition and retire repos and make any other changes, then I am very opposed. But I haven't seen that anywhere. | 14:54 |
| smcginnis | The "make sure everything stays working" kind of implies to me that there are still repos to be maintained. | 14:54 |
| smcginnis | But more clarity might be a good thing here to make sure everyone has the same understanding of this. | 14:55 |
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| AJaeger | Reading http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/011052.html, I had the impression it was a progression - but reading it again, I think I interpreted more into it ;( | 14:57 |
| smcginnis | Maybe we should add more to that description on the sig-status page to make it more clear? | 14:59 |
| AJaeger | The guides are special: Most need updating to newer releases or have complete outdated content, is the SIG really able to do anything here? | 14:59 |
| smcginnis | It's usually mentioned at the ops meetups that help is needed keeping those updated. | 15:00 |
| AJaeger | smcginnis: Not sure what exactly to write. I think a spec repo for a SIG is different than a doc repo that is expected to cover current code | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | We get occasional updates, but not a lot. | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | It's a resource issue more than a reflection of the need of those types of docs. | 15:01 |
| AJaeger | yeah | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | One of the may areas where it would be great if we had more people looking for things to do. | 15:02 |
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| AJaeger | let me propose a change to the operations-guide to mark it's status and we can discuss there as well. | 15:02 |
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| AJaeger | smcginnis: I'm wondering if we should declare we lost - and give up on those guides? | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | We did that, then a bunch of operators were doing different things to try to keep the content around, then we finally brought the repos back and got them published again. | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | So although some of the content is a little out of date, there are still parts that operators find very valuable. | 15:03 |
| AJaeger | the problem is finding which parts are still correct and which are old ;( | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | Yeah. :/ | 15:07 |
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| AJaeger | smcginnis: pushed https://review.opendev.org/698930 | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | Thanks AJaeger! | 15:17 |
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| * AJaeger removed his -1 on the governance-sigs change as well now... | 15:18 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/governance-sigs master: Add more details in 'advisory' SIG status https://review.opendev.org/698956 | 16:35 |
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