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| cdent | smcginnis: is it kosher to make a release patch depends-on the patch will be the head of the release? | 17:16 |
| cdent | it's in the gate and I'm impatient | 17:16 |
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| smcginnis | cdent: People do, but it will fail validation. | 17:18 |
| ttx | Ah smcginnis beat me to it | 17:19 |
| smcginnis | cdent: So if you can, I really consider it best to wait until things are ready. | 17:19 |
| smcginnis | ttx: ;) | 17:19 |
| cdent | I can, I was mostly asking to try to understand the mechanism | 17:19 |
| cdent | i'm not running off somewhere or anything like that | 17:19 |
| smcginnis | It can make it easy to just have something to recheck if you're leaving for the day, but otherwise, nothing in there to handle validation with a depends-on. | 17:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/governance master: Add link to placement team vision reflection https://review.openstack.org/644953 | 17:38 |
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| cdent | ttx, smcginnis: what do I do about "deliverables/stein/placement.yaml: validate_pre_release_progression: Release candidate version 1.0.0.0rc1 must come after a beta or release candidate version, not 0.1.0" on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/644345/ | 18:51 |
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| smcginnis | cdent: Hmm, we may need to fix up some validation quick on that. | 19:07 |
| cdent | smcginnis: that's the impression I got: we violated some expectation and it is correctly noticing that violation, but the expectation is wrong | 19:07 |
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| smcginnis | cdent: It was released independently before, right? | 19:08 |
| cdent | that one time yeah, just to occupy the namespace with something real | 19:09 |
| cdent | (and get something on to pypi) | 19:09 |
| smcginnis | OK, I'll take a look at the validation logic and see if I can figure out what would make sense there. Problem being we probably do want that enforcement most of the time. | 19:09 |
| smcginnis | Worst case scenario, we remove the logic, merge this release patch, then revert the removal. | 19:10 |
| cdent | would it work to simply remove that release from the deliverables file? | 19:10 |
| cdent | since, in a sense, it doesn't matter | 19:10 |
| cdent | or is it looking elsehwere | 19:10 |
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| smcginnis | cdent: Hmm, actually... | 19:13 |
| smcginnis | I think that may work. | 19:13 |
| smcginnis | Let me check first. | 19:13 |
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| smcginnis | cdent: Yeah, looking through the logic, it should work if we just drop that 0.1.0 release. | 19:17 |
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| cdent | smcginnis: aye aye, I'll go ahead and make that switch | 19:32 |
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| cdent | smcginnis: yup all kid | 19:46 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 19:46 |
| cdent | kid? huh | 19:46 |
| cdent | good | 19:46 |
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| smcginnis | Thought maybe you were using some slang I wasn't up on. :) | 19:49 |
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| cdent | smcginnis: if you're in a future release mgt frame of mind, a question: | 20:44 |
| cdent | we've talked in placement about releasing every microversion with the version of the release being the version of the microversion and that being "the way releases work" | 20:45 |
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| cdent | but there's some concern about not playing well with the projects that release on the cycle | 20:45 |
| cdent | (this is feasable becasue we're release 1.0.0 now, and the microversion would be 1.31 (release 1.31.0) | 20:46 |
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| cdent | we thought "let's not do this soon", but then if we do Train as 2.0.0 things go awry, so it came back on the radar | 20:46 |
| smcginnis | cdent: I suppose that would work if we switch placement over to cycle-with-intermediary and you do a release for each one. But we want those releases at least every milestone, so we either need to change that or come up with some other release type for placement so we don't have to remember to avoid releasing it. | 20:47 |
| smcginnis | But semver is also to communicate new features and bug fixes, so I don't think that actually would work. | 20:48 |
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| smcginnis | Everything would appear to be a bug fix, but usually a microversion bump indicates a functionality change that would require a minor bump. | 20:48 |
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| cdent | major.minor.patch. minor being backwards compatible features which is what microversion means. patch for bug fixes | 20:49 |
| cdent | 1.31.0 | 20:49 |
| cdent | is the current release version corresponding with microversion 1.31 | 20:49 |
| smcginnis | Oh, right. I guess that potentially could work then. | 20:49 |
| cdent | the theory is that any feature is a microversion since placement is only an api | 20:49 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I guess there's some logic behind that then. That could work out. | 20:50 |
| cdent | it would likely be too much of a constraint, but it is an interesting thought experiment | 20:50 |
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| smcginnis | Maybe good to let that simmer a little longer and check back later if it still sounds like a good idea or not. | 20:51 |
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| cdent | oh yeah, not rushing | 20:51 |
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| cdent | but wanted to feel it out in terms of feasibility | 20:52 |
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| smcginnis | Definitely feasible, but more than likely would take some tweaks on the release management process side of things depending on timing. | 20:53 |
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| jroll | agree cycle-with-intermediary fits well here | 20:54 |
| jroll | release every microversion, tag stable at end of cycle | 20:54 |
| * cdent wonders what else we can break | 20:55 | |
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| mriedem | zaneb: can you report a new nova bug for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1602357/comments/9 | 21:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1602357 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova is not marking virtual interfaces as deleted in db on instance delete" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 21:05 |
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| zaneb | mriedem: sure | 21:05 |
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| cdent | smcginnis: buglet in the release announcement emails, where should I report it? | 21:06 |
| smcginnis | Hmm, good question. | 21:06 |
| smcginnis | cdent: What's the bug? | 21:06 |
| cdent | the 2nd and 3rd urls are using the package name, not the project name, for creating urls | 21:07 |
| cdent | and in placement they are not the same | 21:07 |
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| cdent | s/project/repo/ | 21:07 |
| cdent | (because people felt 'placement' was too generic for pypi) | 21:07 |
| smcginnis | Hmm, yeah, placement isn't the only one with a different project/package naming either. | 21:08 |
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| smcginnis | Just love how logging into storyboard dumps you to about instead of the page you were on that you needed to log into in the first place. | 21:09 |
| smcginnis | (yeah, yeah, patches welcome) | 21:09 |
| cdent | a part of me would love to fall in that hole, but it is very deep | 21:10 |
| smcginnis | cdent: I suppose you could put something here: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/openstack/releases | 21:10 |
| cdent | k, will do | 21:10 |
| smcginnis | Thanks | 21:10 |
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| smcginnis | I seem to remember seeing something that tries to scrape some of those links out of the repos README, so maybe we aren't finding what we expect and end up guessing wrongly. | 21:11 |
| zaneb | mriedem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1821088 | 21:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1821088 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Virtual Interface creation failed due to duplicate entry" [Undecided,New] | 21:11 |
| cdent | oh ffs | 21:12 |
| cdent | just lost my creation of that bug because of misfire of the escape key | 21:13 |
| cdent | smcginnis: for your future reference https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2005279 | 21:16 |
| smcginnis | Thank you | 21:16 |
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| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: cinder highlights merged. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/644955/ | 21:56 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, thank you! | 21:58 |
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| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: Welcome. Anybody turn down their project onboarding space? | 22:00 |
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| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, not yet | 22:01 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: ok, well good that there is lots of interest this time. :-) | 22:02 |
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| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, yes very good :) | 22:08 |
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