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| peter-kehl | Hi. https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/quickstart/first-timers.html has a diagram that says "Same username" between openstack.org and launchpad.net. However, there is no "username" field at https://www.openstack.org/profile. Do you think the diagram meant "Same username" between https://review.openstack.org and launchpad.net instead? | 09:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Artem Goncharov proposed openstack/governance master: Add Move legacy client CLIs to OSC goal to Train https://review.openstack.org/639376 | 13:38 |
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| frickler | peter-kehl: that seems to be outdated, thanks for pointing it out. IIUC currently the main restriction is to use the same email address on openstack.org and review.openstack.org so that the CLA can be verified | 13:42 |
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| frickler | AJaeger: fungi: ^^ that page seems to belong to the docs team, but also would need updating when we move things to opendev.org. possibly evades grepping because the names are hidden in a diagram | 13:44 |
| AJaeger | frickler: bug was opened by peter-kehl at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1820198 | 13:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1820198 in openstack-manuals "Incorrect/confusing "Same username" in "First timers in OpenStack Documentation Contributor Guide"" [Undecided,New] | 13:46 |
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| fungi | frickler: peter-kehl: AJaeger: even the cla is not at issue. we no longer perform any callbacks from review.openstack.org to the member database on www.openstack.org | 13:52 |
| fungi | in fact, the feature in gerrit we used to use for that (the contact info api) was dropped in the version of gerrit we're running | 13:52 |
| AJaeger | argh, no source for that diagram ;( | 13:53 |
| AJaeger | fungi, frickler, want to update the bug with more info? Hope somebody will take it... | 13:54 |
| fungi | right now there's a soft dependency between having at least one e-mail address registered in gerrit matching at least one address in your foundation member profile if you want to vote or run as a candidate in technical elections | 13:54 |
| fungi | https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/common/accounts.html#setup-your-openstack-foundation-account | 13:54 |
| fungi | probably best to refer most of that content back to the contributor guide now | 13:54 |
| AJaeger | yeah ;( | 13:55 |
| frickler | fungi: so submitting patches to gerrit is no longer tied to having the cla signed? | 13:55 |
| fungi | submitting patches to gerrit required agreeing to the icla *in gerrit* for some projects (as it always has since ~2013) | 13:55 |
| fungi | but that has nothing to do with e-mail addresses or usernames or foundation membership | 13:56 |
| fungi | it's just a form in gerrit you read and then type "i agree" and hit a submit button. it doesn't involve any systems outside gerrit | 13:57 |
| fungi | https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/common/setup-gerrit.html#individual-contributor-license-agreement | 13:58 |
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| frickler | ah, seems 2013 is about when I did then and then forgot about the details ;) | 13:58 |
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| fungi | well, back then it had an api callout from a separate contact info filing panel which got transcluded into the initial cla page if you were signing in for the first time | 13:59 |
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| fungi | and that used to hit an api on the foundation member system to check that your e-mail address matched one for an osf individual membership | 14:00 |
| fungi | but there was no legal requirement for that it was being done to make elections more convenient | 14:00 |
| fungi | and when gerrit dropped the feature which made that possible it was a good excuse to overhaul our election automation and drop that logistical requirement | 14:01 |
| fungi | which happened a couple years ago now | 14:01 |
| AJaeger | frickler, fungi, I patched it now - see https://review.openstack.org/643590 | 14:03 |
| AJaeger | Just deleted some lines ;) | 14:04 |
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| fungi | the best kind of patch! | 14:09 |
| fungi | AJaeger: does it also need to point to the gerrit account setup chapter? | 14:10 |
| fungi | https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/common/setup-gerrit.html | 14:10 |
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| AJaeger | fungi: it should, yes... | 14:18 |
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| * AJaeger updates | 14:20 | |
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| AJaeger | fungi: updated 643590 | 14:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/governance master: Update nodeJS PTI version for Train https://review.openstack.org/643603 | 14:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/governance master: Update nodeJS PTI version for Train https://review.openstack.org/643603 | 15:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/governance master: Update nodeJS PTI version for Train https://review.openstack.org/643603 | 15:02 |
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| frickler | fungi: so claiming that one needs to be a foundation member in order to submit code to gerrit here is incorrect? https://www.openstack.org/join | 16:28 |
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| mugsie | frickler: I believe that has changed, yes | 16:43 |
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| frickler | I'd also be curious if the step of degrading foundation members that don't vote is actually executed. and if yes, are there statistics about how many people it affected over time? | 16:48 |
| frickler | also, is there a foundation channel where one could discuss this? | 16:49 |
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| fungi | frickler: yes, i'll prod the osf folks who maintain www.o.o to clarify the code contributor point | 17:10 |
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| fungi | and i know for a fact that they deactivate osf individual memberships if they don't vote in board elections for two years, though they do it in batches not continuously | 17:10 |
| fungi | and there is a #openstack-foundation channel on freenode some of us are in, but it doesn't see a lot of traffic | 17:11 |
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| peter-kehl | <frickler> Thank you. | 19:12 |
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| peter-kehl | AJaeger: Thank you | 19:17 |
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| AJaeger | peter-kehl: thanks for reporting! | 19:21 |
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| fungi | frickler: jamesmcarthur has updated https://www.openstack.org/join just now based on your feedback. thanks!!! | 19:35 |
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