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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Clarify TC goal-setting role https://review.openstack.org/636948 | 12:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/governance master: Introduce the Padawan program https://review.openstack.org/636956 | 13:49 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Jobs are failing due to ssh host key mismatches caused by duplicate IPs in a test cloud region. We are disabling the region and will let you know when jobs can be rechecked. | 21:31 | |
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| zepvalue | hello everybody ! Quick question: How can I ping/ssh to my instance from my maas ( it does work from neutron already ) | 21:53 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: The test cloud region using duplicate IPs has been removed from nodepool. Jobs can be rechecked now. | 22:13 | |
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| efried | dhellmann: Is there a way to use :oslo.config:option: within reno, given that releasenotes is a separate tox target from docs where config generator runs? | 22:30 |
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| dhellmann | efried : I would have to look to refresh my memory, but I think we changed the release notes job to not run through tox so we could ensure it was on python 3 without having to update every repo | 22:51 |
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| dhellmann | since the output of that build doesn't include the stuff that includes the config options, you'd have to use a link to the docs site anyway, so maybe just do that? | 22:52 |
| efried | dhellmann: Yeah, all of that is possible, just looking for the Unified Solution. | 22:56 |
| dhellmann | otoh, since release notes are a point-in-time thing and the docs are constantly changing, it may be better to just duplicate the information in the release notes | 22:57 |
| efried | dhellmann: hm, that's a good point. The release notes would have to make sure the link resolves to the correct release's config options doc. But beyond that, it should be copacetic, nah? | 22:58 |
| dhellmann | without a stein branch in the repo, that'll be tough to do | 22:59 |
| efried | maybe I'm not understanding, but unreleased would point to latest, and others would point to their release. Once the release is cut, unreleased is... no longer unreleased, so it would just work, right? | 23:00 |
| efried | Or is there some kind of race condition there? | 23:00 |
| efried | anyway, it's probably academic, sounds like it'd probably be more work than worth to get there. | 23:00 |
| dhellmann | what's the URL you're going to point to from the release notes? | 23:00 |
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| efried | docs.o.o/{proj}/latest/configuration/config.html#group.option ? | 23:01 |
| efried | doesn't that currently correspond to stein? | 23:01 |
| dhellmann | right, so after the stein branch that will point to train docs | 23:01 |
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| dhellmann | that URL isn't "stable" in terms of which release it means | 23:02 |
| efried | no, because once the renos build in the stein branch, they'll point to docs.o.o/{proje}/stein/... | 23:02 |
| dhellmann | and today there is no docs.o.o/proj/stein/... | 23:02 |
| dhellmann | what would cause that to happen? | 23:02 |
| efried | same thing that causes the release notes themselves to be updated with the release name? | 23:02 |
| efried | once 'unreleased' stops being unreleased? | 23:02 |
| dhellmann | that happens because a job proposes a patch to the repo to add a stein.rst file with some settings in it to pull from the stein branch | 23:03 |
| dhellmann | and those release notes are on that branch | 23:03 |
| dhellmann | but nothing rewrites any URLs | 23:03 |
| efried | But a brand new sphinx build happens on that stein.rst file | 23:03 |
| dhellmann | it pulls all of the same content out of the reno files, though | 23:03 |
| efried | and presumably rebuilds all the heretofore-unreleased release notes. | 23:04 |
| efried | yes | 23:04 |
| dhellmann | so if there's a hard-coded link to $something/latest/ that's going to stay the same | 23:04 |
| efried | so if those files contained :oslo.config:option:`foo.bar`, then that build iteration would stuff in /stein/ instead of /latest/ | 23:04 |
| efried | right | 23:04 |
| efried | not hardcoded | 23:04 |
| efried | whole point | 23:04 |
| dhellmann | oh, yeah, no, you can't have that | 23:04 |
| dhellmann | no extra dependencies in the release notes build | 23:04 |
| dhellmann | that job is hard-coded to build its venv with the things reno and sphinx need, and to then run sphinx | 23:05 |
| dhellmann | that way they're all the same, and when we update a tool everyone gets the update | 23:05 |
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| efried | fwiw, I was able to add oslo_config.sphinxext to releasenotes/source/conf.py and it got to the point where it was looking for the option in the (empty) dict. | 23:06 |
| efried | so if it could have pulled that dict from somewhere, like from the doc tree of the same repo, it could conceivably have worked. | 23:06 |
| dhellmann | I wonder if we're installing something that uses oslo.config | 23:06 |
| dhellmann | or are you doing this via tox? | 23:06 |
| dhellmann | because tox is going to install $app in its env, but the gate job doesn't do that | 23:06 |
| efried | I am running via tox, yes. | 23:07 |
| dhellmann | yeah, the gate doesn't use tox | 23:07 |
| efried | though in my experimentation I was running sphinx directly once or twice. | 23:07 |
| dhellmann | ok, what matters is how the virtualenv is populated | 23:07 |
| dhellmann | tox is typically going to install "." but the gate job doesn't | 23:07 |
| efried | well, at least in nova, we're using the same venv for docs and releasenotes. | 23:07 |
| dhellmann | not in the gate, though :-) | 23:08 |
| efried | just sayin, it would be neat for a feature release note to be able to say, "Added such-and-such, which can be configured via the shiny new :oslo.config:option:`foo.bar` configuration option." | 23:08 |
| dhellmann | maybe | 23:08 |
| dhellmann | it's time for me to call it a night, ttyl | 23:09 |
| efried | Thanks for the talk, Doug. | 23:09 |
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