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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack/governance master: Technical vision: hide implementation details https://review.openstack.org/628181 | 13:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luigi Toscano proposed openstack/governance master: New Sahara repositories for split plugins https://review.openstack.org/628210 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Luigi Toscano proposed openstack/governance master: New Sahara repositories for split plugins https://review.openstack.org/628210 | 15:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luigi Toscano proposed openstack/governance master: New Sahara repositories for split plugins https://review.openstack.org/628210 | 16:53 |
| cdent | hey smcginnis release guy, I have a query: should we do a placement release or no? | 17:04 |
| smcginnis | cdent: From what I've seen of your progress so far, I think that might be a good idea. | 17:05 |
| smcginnis | cdent: And then there is a deliverable that those distros can pick up and package to help with the install docs you're working on. | 17:05 |
| cdent | it all works just fine, and devstack and grenade and integrated gate all use it | 17:05 |
| cdent | what's missing at this point is basically docs, and the cleanup of nova | 17:06 |
| cdent | can you point at an example | 17:06 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, sounds like a great point to get a release out there. | 17:06 |
| smcginnis | cdent: I guess first question would be if this should be cycle-with-intermediary or cycle-with-rc. I would guess intermediary? | 17:07 |
| cdent | i've never been entirely sure what that means | 17:07 |
| smcginnis | c-w-i would be if the team wants to do full releases at any point throughout the development cycle, but still be part of a given coordinated release. | 17:08 |
| smcginnis | c-w-rc would be if you would want optional beta releases during the cycle and one or more release candidates before doing a final full release at the end of the cycle. | 17:09 |
| smcginnis | If the API is still evolving, maybe -rc is the better one. | 17:09 |
| smcginnis | That allows interim releases to happen during the cycle that other consuming projects can pick up, but every time you make a major API change or requirements change you don't need to do a big version number bump to satisfy semver rules. | 17:09 |
| smcginnis | There is always a final major version bump, so pretty much anything can be changed throughout the cycle and be included in that one final release. | 17:10 |
| cdent | presumably most of the other service project do -rc? | 17:10 |
| smcginnis | There's also the option for "independent" which would be if you don't have any ties to other deliverables as part of the cycle and placement can be released, picked up, and used by anyone inside or outside OpenStack at any time. | 17:11 |
| smcginnis | But yeah, 90+% of service projects are cycle-with-rc. | 17:11 |
| smcginnis | So that probably does make the most sense here. Just giving options as it's entirely up to the team what promises they want to convey and how they want to manage their releases. | 17:12 |
| smcginnis | cdent: Here's maybe a better reference - https://releases.openstack.org/reference/release_models.html | 17:13 |
| cdent | in the future independent would probably make a fair bit of sense, but for now rc is probably best | 17:13 |
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| cdent | smcginnis: okay, so given -rc, what's the next step? | 17:14 |
| smcginnis | That seems reasonable. And you can switch when things are ready to be independent. | 17:14 |
| smcginnis | -rc only requires the RC and final releases, but with where things are a milestone release would be good. | 17:15 |
| smcginnis | Let me find an example. | 17:15 |
| smcginnis | Basically you add a deliverable file to the releases repo and request a version number and commit hash. | 17:15 |
| cdent | is it kosher to simply create the yaml file. I don't have to use any tools (if there are any)? I think when I release os-resource-classes it implied there were tools and I got confused and just did it by hand | 17:18 |
| smcginnis | I can't remember if we updated new-release to be able to create a brand new deliverable file, but you could try https://releases.openstack.org/reference/using.html#using-new-release-command | 17:19 |
| cdent | I think I've found sufficient examples to create something you can -1 | 17:19 |
| smcginnis | But creating by hand (or likely copy/pasting an existing one) is probably the easiest way. | 17:19 |
| * cdent nods | 17:19 | |
| cdent | thank you very much | 17:19 |
| smcginnis | cdent: Here's an example of a recent one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613019/ | 17:20 |
| smcginnis | Difference being you would have "type:service" I think and a section for actual releases would be added with the version and hash mentioned. Should be plenty of examples of that. | 17:20 |
| smcginnis | Tricky part might be if you have to add a release job in zuul project-config yet. | 17:21 |
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| smcginnis | And "tricky" only in that needs to be done first before the validation job is happy in the releases repo patch. | 17:21 |
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| smcginnis | cdent: Found a better example that includes a depends-on for adding the release job - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/624551/ | 17:25 |
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| cdent | mordred: thanks for the pointer on using a different base image for placedock. made the dockerfile smaller, provide an opportunity for generic cleanup, and made the image a smidge smaller | 20:56 |
| mordred | cdent: \o/ - I've found those images to be pretty nice | 20:57 |
| cdent | still 300MB though (in `docker images`) | 20:57 |
| mordred | yeah | 20:57 |
| cdent | which is bigger than I'd like, but there's lots of miscellany that's sort of tied up in dependencies: many terminfo files, lots of ssl-related stuff | 20:58 |
| mordred | there are some additional magics that can be done to get them smaller that I've got a todo to bundle up into something that's reasonably reconsumable | 20:58 |
| mordred | but - it seems 300M isn't terrible these days | 20:58 |
| cdent | these days are crazy! | 20:58 |
| mordred | tell me about it :) | 20:59 |
| cdent | for a generic do everything placement container, ready for anything, I can accept it | 21:00 |
| cdent | if I were making something specific it would be worth exploring building from less | 21:00 |
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