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| dolly | Sorry for asking but how do I get access to the command "openstack application" | 10:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/governance master: Add -E to sphinx-build invocation https://review.openstack.org/597047 | 11:14 |
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| kotra03 | I understand that OpenStack source code (mostly if not all) supports both Python 2.7 and Python 3.5. But how to write Python Shebangs such that they work with both Python 2.7 and Python 3.5 ? | 11:46 |
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| lbragstad | dolly: are you trying to create an application credential? | 13:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/governance master: Add -W to sphinx-build invocation https://review.openstack.org/597047 | 14:24 |
| dolly | lbragstad, yes that was my goal. I managed to update my openstack-keystoneclient in my virtualenv and got it working. | 14:25 |
| lbragstad | dolly: cool - support for that should be available in the queens release of python-openstackclient and the rocky release of python-openstackclient | 14:26 |
| dolly | With that being said, creating an "application credential" seems to require the openstack-client to talk to the admin-endpoint of keystone. Do you / anyone have any insight on that ? Why would you need to talk admin-endpoint ? | 14:26 |
| dolly | lbragstad, understood, thanks! | 14:27 |
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| lbragstad | dolly: the clients should only care about how you have your auth_url configured | 14:27 |
| lbragstad | do you have it pointing to the admin-endpiont? | 14:27 |
| dolly | hm, no thats to the public endpoint. | 14:28 |
| lbragstad | do you know if openstackclient is picking up a different endpoint from the service catalog during discovery? | 14:29 |
| lbragstad | either way, the functionality with respect to application credentials should be the same regardless of which endpoint is used | 14:29 |
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| dolly | Ok ok, just need to figure out why it goes to the 'admin-endpoint'. When using 'openstack application credential list --debug' I see, 1 ) https://cloud.internal:13000 "POST /v3/auth/tokens HTTP/1.1" 201 10384 containing the token and the whole catalog, 2 ) REQ: curl -g -i -X GET https://cloud.internal:35357 -H "Accept: application/json" -H "User-Agent: openstacksdk/0.17.2 keystoneauth1/3.10.0 python-requests/2.19.1 CPython/2.7.15" | 14:31 |
| dolly | Not sure why the second request goes to the admin endpoint though. | 14:31 |
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| maharg101 | haha just some advocacy there ^^^ | 14:42 |
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| lbragstad | dolly: is https://cloud.internal:35357/ what you have listed as an endpoint in the service catalog? | 14:52 |
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| lbragstad | mnaser: do you remember if you found a solution to http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-keystone/%23openstack-keystone.2018-08-24.log.html#t2018-08-24T14:31:52 on centos? | 16:31 |
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| lbragstad | mnaser: mlavalle seems to be hitting the same thing but on ubuntu 16.04 instead? | 16:32 |
| lbragstad | mlavalle: ahh - https://github.com/IdentityPython/pysaml2/commit/9c7b0014ccc4229031813ddcc5f6790b59540df5 | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | lbragstad: Sounds like maybe we should blacklist that version in requirements then. | 16:38 |
| lbragstad | the commit message here helps https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596553/2 | 16:38 |
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| lbragstad | i guess we could blacklist 4.6.0, yeah... that makes sense | 16:39 |
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| mlavalle | ++ | 16:39 |
| mlavalle | lbragstad: thanks for digging | 16:40 |
| lbragstad | mlavalle: no problem - let me know if 4.5.0 doesn't work for you | 16:40 |
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| lbragstad | mlavalle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/597179/1 should fix devstack | 16:56 |
| mlavalle | lbragstad: thanks so much :-) | 16:57 |
| lbragstad | mlavalle: no problem - thanks for the ping | 16:57 |
| lbragstad | cc mnaser ^ | 16:57 |
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| mnaser | sorry, i was in osa meeting | 17:14 |
| mnaser | mlavalle, lbragstad: odyssey4me ended up figuring out the fix for us | 17:15 |
| mnaser | let me get you the OSA review that found it | 17:15 |
| mnaser | s/found/fixed/ iot | 17:15 |
| mnaser | man, typing on a plane is hard with turbulance. | 17:15 |
| mnaser | lbragstad, mlavalle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596553/ | 17:16 |
| mnaser | so just newer setuptools | 17:17 |
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| lbragstad | mnaser: ah - interesting | 18:06 |
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| lbragstad | i assume we could just use a new version of setuptools then, too | 18:07 |
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| mriedem | sounds like dansmith and sean-k-mooney hit the same thing in devstack....seems like we should change something in devstack? | 18:13 |
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| mriedem | hongbin: you asked about placement + zun right? | 18:24 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/zun/blob/a5e0df6756031b45433a76d15515f7bbd27f6202/zun/scheduler/filters/cpu_filter.py#L41 will likely eventually be a problem integration point | 18:24 |
| hongbin | mriedem: yes, i mentioned it in ML | 18:25 |
| mriedem | zun must have hooked something in to the nova ResourceTracker claims process? | 18:25 |
| mriedem | aha https://github.com/openstack/zun/blob/master/zun/compute/compute_node_tracker.py | 18:25 |
| mriedem | yikes | 18:25 |
| hongbin | it looks you figured it out :) | 18:26 |
| mriedem | hongbin: let me guess, there are race conditions during scheduling such that the late cpus claim on the compute fails due to conflicts with other scheduler workers picking the same host? | 18:26 |
| hongbin | mriedem: yes, that could be the case | 18:27 |
| hongbin | mriedem: and i remember nova has resolve the problem by a some sort of reservation in placement? | 18:28 |
| mriedem | yes the nova-scheduler does atomic resource allocations once it picks a host, for vcpu/memory_mb/disk_gb | 18:28 |
| mriedem | which replaces the old RT claim logic for those resources | 18:29 |
| hongbin | zun might need to adopt a similar approach | 18:29 |
| cdent | mriedem: atomic, or merely "earlier"? | 18:30 |
| dansmith | atomic | 18:30 |
| cdent | dansmith: can you translate for me please? | 18:30 |
| dansmith | huh? | 18:31 |
| mriedem | we allocate resources we asked for or get 409 right? | 18:31 |
| mriedem | and pick another host | 18:32 |
| cdent | I didn't think it was actually atomic, so I'm hoping you explain in more detail: If two nova-scheduler processor request the same resources at the same time, they can get back the same list of allocation candidates and could choose the same allocation request to PUT back to /allocations | 18:32 |
| cdent | because there is an open window of time between the GET /allocation_candidates and either PUT | 18:32 |
| dansmith | the PUT is atomic | 18:32 |
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| mriedem | sure multiple scheduler workers can pick the same host, | 18:33 |
| mriedem | try to PUT allocations on it, | 18:33 |
| mriedem | which either works or 409s | 18:33 |
| mriedem | if it 409s after i think 3 retries in the scheduler, the scheduler picks the next host | 18:33 |
| mriedem | which is better than nova-scheduler picking a host, send to compute, fail a claim in the RT, reschedule to an alternate host, etc | 18:34 |
| cdent | right, so you still race. I thought the implication behind the _casual_ use of the term "atomic" is taht racing wouldn't happen. And I was trying to say yes: when we move the allocations to the scheduler the race is less likely, but still possible | 18:34 |
| mriedem | this is why placement was created... | 18:34 |
| mriedem | different race | 18:34 |
| mriedem | well, same, but, | 18:35 |
| mriedem | window is much better | 18:35 |
| cdent | yes, that's all I was trying to clarify | 18:35 |
| dansmith | the point is it's handled, expected, and before we allocate resources | 18:35 |
| cdent | it is _much_ better | 18:35 |
| dansmith | before, we consumed resources, then allocated/claimed them | 18:35 |
| cdent | If someone says to me "we made it atomic" I hear "sweet, it just works" | 18:35 |
| cdent | and in this case, for the most part, that will be true | 18:36 |
| cdent | but not _strictly_ true | 18:36 |
| cdent | and I didn't want hongbin (or anyone else) getting the wrong idea | 18:36 |
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| mriedem | now if i send some garbage-encoded personality files with my server create request, it will fail in compute x3 and then NoValidHost, which is pretty sweet | 18:37 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: ^ wasn't in my "deprecate file injection" laundry list of problems spec either i guess.... | 18:37 |
| jroll | cdent: does placement have a select-and-allocate endpoint? if zun doesn't need to do client-side filtering, and that endpoint exists, they could do for-real atomic claims | 18:38 |
| cdent | jroll: not at this time, no | 18:39 |
| jroll | nod | 18:39 |
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| cdent | jroll: it's probably doable but isn't necessarily in keeping with the spirit of the thing, which kind of assumes a sort surfeit of stuff, not scarcity | 18:42 |
| cdent | anyone, perhaps fungi, know what's up with planet.o.o? | 18:54 |
| fungi | ooh, "unable to connect" | 18:55 |
| cdent | looks like it might have had no web server for a few days | 18:55 |
| fungi | i can ssh into it | 18:55 |
| fungi | apache is running | 18:56 |
| cdent | pingable, nothing on port 80 or port 443 | 18:56 |
| cdent | firewall? | 18:56 |
| fungi | listening on 80 and 443 tcp | 18:56 |
| fungi | cdent: bingo | 18:56 |
| cdent | "ICMP host planet01.openstack.org unreachable - admin prohibited" | 18:57 |
| fungi | i bet this is courtesy of our new ansible firewall role. rehoming discussion to #openstack-infra | 18:57 |
| fungi | yes, we have a fallback rule of reject-with icmp-host-prohibited | 18:57 |
| cdent | dansmith, mriedem, hongbin: I figured out my side of the confusion: individual allocation whether from the nova-compute or the nova-scheduler process has always been "atomic" for the individual PUT of the allocation (it succeeds or does not) and the move from compute to scheduler doesn't change that, but the landing of the workload isn't (and as we currently do things can't be) atomic. Sorry for my contribution to the no | 19:02 |
| cdent | clearness. | 19:02 |
| mriedem | yup | 19:03 |
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| fungi | cdent: https://review.openstack.org/597211 should hopefully solve all the planet's problem | 19:08 |
| fungi | s | 19:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/governance master: Add Jay Faulkner as an extra-atc for ironic https://review.openstack.org/597212 | 19:08 |
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| fungi | cdent: http://planet.openstack.org/ is alive again with your awesome summary at the top | 21:16 |
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| * dims now has "hills are alive with the sound of music" stuck in his brain | 21:18 | |
| * fungi is happy to have lodged julie andrews' voice deeply in your skull | 21:20 | |
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| cdent | thanks fungi | 21:38 |
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