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| mriedem | diablo_rojo: fungi: is this how i'm supposed to link to stuff in storyboard? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/573709/ | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | looks like it linked everything up so i guess that's right | 14:18 |
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| frickler | mriedem: that looks correct, yes. https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#working-on-bugs has a bit of reference | 14:23 |
| mriedem | perfect, thanks | 14:24 |
| fungi | yep, frickler beat me to it as always | 14:25 |
| fungi | mriedem: you can get the equivalent of "related-bug" behavior by leaving out the task footer. then sb will only leave a comment about the change but won't alter task status | 14:26 |
| frickler | fungi: sorry for that. /me leaves for the weekend now ;) | 14:26 |
| fungi | heh | 14:26 |
| fungi | mriedem: basically the story and task footers drive two separate behaviors (creating story comments, changing task statuses) | 14:26 |
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| srf | hello everyone | 14:32 |
| srf | i want to ask | 14:32 |
| srf | i use devstack and when i want to get tokens, port 5000 didn't listen ' | 14:32 |
| srf | anyone have the solution | 14:33 |
| srf | i use curl | 14:33 |
| srf | and always Unable to establish connection to http://localhost:5000 | 14:34 |
| mriedem | should it be 5000 or 35357? https://docs.openstack.org/keystone/pike/install/keystone-verify-ubuntu.html | 14:35 |
| mriedem | oops i guess it's 5000 on both now https://docs.openstack.org/keystone/latest/install/keystone-verify-ubuntu.html | 14:35 |
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| cmurphy | srf: on devstack keystone listens on port 80 under the /identity endpoint | 14:41 |
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| srf | cmurphy : still not work when i use port 80 | 14:45 |
| cmurphy | srf: "curl http://<hostname>/identity" ? | 14:46 |
| srf | mriedem : i use devstack and i want go get the auth token, but both the port not listening | 14:46 |
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| srf | cmurphy : the output curl (7) failed to connect | 14:47 |
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| mriedem | openstack token issue | 14:48 |
| mriedem | easy peasy | 14:48 |
| mriedem | source ~/devstack/openrc demo | 14:48 |
| mriedem | openstack token issue | 14:49 |
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| srf | mriedem : when i tr use ocata version it's work, but on ocata always error when I upload images qcow2, | 14:55 |
| mriedem | oh i have no idea about ocata devstack | 14:56 |
| mriedem | i'm running master | 14:56 |
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| srf | mriedem : when you running master can get tokens auth ? | 15:34 |
| mriedem | i don't have any problems using "openstack token issue" in devstack | 15:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Y. Choi proposed openstack/governance master: Update PTI around project doc translation and PDF https://review.openstack.org/572559 | 15:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | kaka proposed openstack/governance master: fix tox python3 overrides https://review.openstack.org/573792 | 17:17 |
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| mriedem | so i go to add a task to an existing story in storyboard but the save button doesn't actually save the task | 19:00 |
| mriedem | OH NICE | 19:00 |
| mriedem | 500: POST /api/v1/tasks: (InternalError) (1205, u'Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction') u'INSERT INTO tasks (created | 19:00 |
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| mriedem | diablo_rojo: ^ known issue? | 19:02 |
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| mriedem | 500: POST /api/v1/stories/1751104/comments: (InternalError) (1205, u'Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction') u'UPDATE stories SET updated_at=%(updated_at)s WHERE stories.id = %(stories_id)s' {'updated_at': datetime.datetime(2018, 6, 8, 19, 6, 43, 496490), 'stories_id': 1751104} | 19:08 |
| mriedem | can't add comments now | 19:08 |
| mriedem | i think i've DoS'ed SB | 19:08 |
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| diablo_rojo | mriedem, yep, known issue | 19:18 |
| diablo_rojo | Wait. | 19:18 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, have you seen that before ^ | 19:19 |
| fungi | this is adding a single new task to an existing story? | 19:20 |
| fungi | or creating a new story with multiple initial tasks? | 19:20 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, the first | 19:20 |
| diablo_rojo | The second is the known issue | 19:21 |
| fungi | also ttx commented in #storyboard earlier about database timeouts | 19:21 |
| fungi | i wonder if we've somehow gotten a stale lock | 19:22 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah thats what I was about to say- some larger issue that is gumming things up. | 19:22 |
| fungi | there were apparently also network issues in rackspace much earlier today, which might have precipitated that | 19:22 |
| fungi | given the database is in a trove instance | 19:23 |
| fungi | though i'm importing stories for magnum right now and it's creating new stories and tasks | 19:23 |
| fungi | and not complaining about query timeouts | 19:24 |
| diablo_rojo | Huh. | 19:24 |
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| fungi | 400 and counting | 19:29 |
| fungi | also possible _i'm_ dos'ing sb.o.o right now? | 19:29 |
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| mriedem | two issues: adding a 2nd task to an existing story - 500, and adding a comment to the same story - 500 | 19:33 |
| mriedem | if SB were oprah, everyone would be getting 500s! | 19:34 |
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| fungi | huh | 19:34 |
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| elbragstad | adding comments doesn't result in a 500 for me | 19:35 |
| dansmith | AI snark filter match? | 19:36 |
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| mriedem | i can't rename a story either | 19:39 |
| fungi | i added a comment to https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001923 just now with no trouble | 19:39 |
| mriedem | i'm basically perma 500 | 19:39 |
| mriedem | i'll retry turning it off and back on again | 19:39 |
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| mriedem | nope | 19:40 |
| mriedem | and it appears to have lost that one of my tasks was in review state, it's back to todo now | 19:40 |
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| elbragstad | did you try removing the dust from the cartridge? | 19:41 |
| mriedem | i did, i blew from one side and everything | 19:41 |
| fungi | it was working for you a couple hours ago, from the looks of story 1751104? | 19:44 |
| mriedem | yeah | 19:45 |
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| fungi | i'm curious to see whether it's still broken once my migration run importing magnum's bugs completes | 19:46 |
| fungi | going to see if i can figure out how many it has left to go | 19:46 |
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| dansmith | fungi: hey, I missed the session where this was brought up, but.. can you summarize the ICLA reason that moving to storyboard is important? | 19:47 |
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| dansmith | sorry if you've explained it a thousand times | 19:48 |
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| fungi | dansmith: the concession we got from the board and member companies on the legal committee is that they were okay with dropping the icla in favor of the dco as long as they had some means to track contributions from contributors who needed to be added to the ccla | 19:49 |
| fungi | to do that, we need to switch gerrit to use an openid provider under our control so we can map gerrit users directly to foundation accounts | 19:50 |
| fungi | and we're uncomfortable moving gerrit off launchpad's openid provider until we're not relying on that to map gerrit accounts to accounts in the bug tracker | 19:50 |
| dansmith | hmm, okay | 19:52 |
| fungi | being completely off lp for bug tracking isn't a hard requirement to be able to switch openid providers, but it's a significant contributor to our being able to determine when we can safely start to do that | 19:56 |
| mriedem | how are member companies tracking contributions if not through stackalytics, which isn't up to speed with storyboard? | 19:56 |
| fungi | mriedem: it's a little different. they want to be able to figure out which of their employees is submitting patches but not covered by a ccla addendum | 19:57 |
| dansmith | fungi: I guess it seems if it's nota workflow thing, then it's just a downstream tracking effort, so I'm not sure I get it | 19:57 |
| dansmith | but, IANAL so I guess I don't have to be able to make sense of it | 19:58 |
| fungi | so the plan which had been proposed was to make sure that every gerrit user had a foundation account so that their ccla management interface would be able to positively identify them | 19:58 |
| fungi | (not necessarily a foundation membership, just an account on www.openstack.org which is what manages the account database backing openstackid.org's openid provider) | 19:59 |
| fungi | gerrit's account management isn't very extensible in that regard, which is why relying on it all happening behind the openid provider made the most sense | 20:00 |
| dansmith | what is the storyboard equivalent of releases, milestones, etc? | 20:01 |
| dansmith | it kinda looks like just bugs to me | 20:01 |
| fungi | the release team ceased relying on series and milestone metadata in lp years back, in favor of just leaving comments on bugs | 20:03 |
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| dansmith | okay, but the nova team uses that functionality fairly heavily | 20:03 |
| fungi | we hadn't gotten feedback from any other teams that they relied on that | 20:03 |
| fungi | but good to know nova is (the old bug czar for nova a couple years ago, forget his name now, hadn't though that was going to be needed) | 20:04 |
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| dansmith | um, that's interesting :) | 20:04 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I mean, right? | 20:05 |
| fungi | a lot of that sort of metadata has been suggested to just do with story tags | 20:05 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo has been tracking the identified blockers, so she probably knows more than i whether that's in the list but i don't think it was | 20:06 |
| mriedem | we use the series for tracking backports | 20:07 |
| mriedem | in lp | 20:07 |
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| mriedem | and tagging blueprints per milestone | 20:07 |
| mriedem | i don't know the latter is all that useful | 20:07 |
| mriedem | but i know i track blueprints in lp per series | 20:07 |
| mriedem | series == release | 20:07 |
| mriedem | if we don't have release tracking in storyboard, i guess we'll have to come up with a new system like tags or something | 20:08 |
| fungi | the idea was that per-branch backports just become separate tasks in sb | 20:08 |
| dansmith | blueprints and bugs per release is pretty huge | 20:08 |
| mriedem | but then your cherry picks all have separate tasks on them | 20:08 |
| mriedem | which is doable, but annoying | 20:08 |
| fungi | projects had almost all moved away from blueprints too as of a couple years ago in favor of specs, so it was thought at the time that blueprints at worst could just be stories in their own right | 20:08 |
| mriedem | we have both | 20:09 |
| mriedem | specs are 1:1 with blueprints | 20:09 |
| mriedem | specs aren't the project management tool | 20:09 |
| mriedem | they are the design doc | 20:09 |
| dansmith | we use blueprints to track specs for the scheduling and release tagging aspect | 20:09 |
| dansmith | right | 20:09 |
| mriedem | lp bp's link to the specs | 20:09 |
| mriedem | and not all blueprints require a spec | 20:09 |
| dansmith | and blueprints provide some dependency graphing at least .. specs can do the same with depends-on, but not in a very visual way | 20:10 |
| fungi | there's also a (not yet implemented) concept of "epics" which are data structures we'd use to track multi-story activities, though the only consumer we knew was looking for that was the product management working group | 20:10 |
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| mriedem | yeah i've dealt with all of these things in ibm / rational's RTC tool | 20:11 |
| mriedem | it was knob-a-rific | 20:11 |
| mriedem | https://www.ibm.com/us-en/marketplace/change-and-configuration-management | 20:12 |
| dhellmann | I thought the way to track series stuff in storyboard was with a board or work list | 20:12 |
| mriedem | fried_rice: ^ NO ONE DENIES THIS! | 20:12 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: yeah, boards and worklists would be one way to visualize series work, agreed | 20:13 |
| fried_rice | mriedem: My eyes! | 20:13 |
| fried_rice | mriedem: loathe RTC. It needs to die in a fire. | 20:13 |
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| mriedem | heh, i know, i hated it too | 20:15 |
| dhellmann | this is the release team board, for example: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/64 | 20:15 |
| mriedem | but i know about themes and epics and stories and tasks oh my | 20:15 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: we're talking about tracking things like 80 blueprints in a given release | 20:16 |
| mriedem | with inter-dependencies and such | 20:16 |
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| mriedem | mayhap that's the epic | 20:16 |
| mriedem | probably is | 20:16 |
| dhellmann | yeah, it sounds like it | 20:17 |
| mriedem | story per bp, with tasks per work item per bp | 20:17 |
| mriedem | all stories in an epic per release | 20:17 |
| mriedem | but sb doesn't have epics | 20:17 |
| mriedem | anyway, i guess nova would just continue tracking specs against blueprints and track blueprints per release in launchpad until epics are a thing | 20:17 |
| dhellmann | yes, true | 20:17 |
| dhellmann | I wonder if an epic is really just a story with other stories in it, though, implementation-wise | 20:17 |
| fungi | that was sort of the idea behind them. i think there may be a spec for epics | 20:19 |
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| dansmith | I guess my point is, it seems hard to sell building a new project management tool when the problem is really just some user account tracking needs for backend scripts | 20:21 |
| dansmith | storyboard seems to be rather barebones, which might be good for some, but building the things we need again doesn't seem like the best use of resources to me | 20:21 |
| fungi | far from the only reason, that's simply the one i care most about because i want to see us able to drop the icla sooner rather than later | 20:21 |
| dansmith | but I guess if nova can keep using launchpad for blueprints at least then it won't affect us as much | 20:22 |
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| fungi | not being dependent on the ubuntu community for bug tracking, having fewer random accounts new contributors have to sign up for, et cetera | 20:22 |
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| mriedem | are either of those ^ major issues though? | 20:28 |
| mriedem | i imagine ubuntu would make everyone well aware ahead of time if they were going to sunset lp | 20:29 |
| mriedem | and one more account doesn't seem like a big deal - you do it once | 20:29 |
| mriedem | anyway, i'm sure this has all been argued a billion times | 20:30 |
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| fungi | it has, and i agree these things aren't necessarily the same level of priority to everyone | 20:38 |
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| fungi | i certainly hope that canonical would give people a heads up in advance or grandfather projects in or something if they decided to switch to using lp only for ubuntu and related work, but there are no guarantees | 20:39 |
| fungi | this is how we ended up switching from transifex to zanata | 20:39 |
| fungi | for example | 20:39 |
| fungi | first transifex stopped really caring for their open-source version at all, started implementing more proprietary features only in their hosted and commercial software, then one day said "pay us or get out" | 20:41 |
| fungi | so we switched to software we could run on our community's servers rather than be beholden to some third-party-run service | 20:41 |
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| dhellmann | it seems like having all of this stuff written into the next iteration of the goal proposal will be helpful | 20:44 |
| dhellmann | or at least pointing to past discussions | 20:44 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo: ^ useful feedback | 20:44 |
| diablo_rojo | dhellmann, fungi noted :) Will add more detail to the goal proposal. | 20:46 |
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| fungi | mriedem: i'm done beating the living daylights out of the sb api and curious if your 500 errors went away | 21:03 |
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| fungi | if so, may want to introduce a throttle into the migration tool or something | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | nope | 21:10 |
| mriedem | i just created a story, tried adding a 2nd task, 500 | 21:10 |
| mriedem | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002195 | 21:10 |
| diablo_rojo | Are you making the 2nd task after the story has been created or at story creation? The latter is a known issue. The former is something new if that's what's happening. | 21:12 |
| diablo_rojo | mriedem, ^ | 21:12 |
| mriedem | former | 21:13 |
| mriedem | oh wait, this time it went through | 21:13 |
| mriedem | after a long...wait | 21:13 |
| mriedem | so maybe the migration had something to do with it | 21:13 |
| mriedem | since there is no progress indicator, earlier today i was hammering the save button too | 21:14 |
| mriedem | might want to disable save until there is a response | 21:14 |
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| diablo_rojo | mriedem, shouldn't be too hard to do- if you want to put up a patch I will gladly review and I bet fungi would too. Another part of the why we are migrating is that when things like this come up we have the power to go make the changes ourselves rather than filing something somewhere and waiting forever to see it fixed. | 21:22 |
| mriedem | i'm no ui coder | 21:22 |
| mriedem | unless this is in jsf from 10 years ago | 21:23 |
| diablo_rojo | mriedem, its not vintage jsf but its not so different that it would be hard to figure out I don't think? | 21:25 |
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