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hwoarang | mordred: hello. I have read your reply in the -dev list about using openstacksdk-0.12 for old openstack releases and reminded me of https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1754302 . Did you have the chance to look at it? | 12:54 |
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openstack | Launchpad bug 1754302 in OpenStack SDK "openstacksdk-0.12.0 breaks with self-signed certificates" [Undecided,Invalid] | 12:54 |
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hwoarang | i haven't tried to use this version again but i wanted to check before i give it another go | 12:54 |
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frickler | hwoarang: oh, seems I have a duplicate for that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1756723 | 13:00 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1756723 in python-openstackclient "Network commands ignore insecure option" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Vishakha Agarwal (vishakha.agarwal) | 13:00 |
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hwoarang | oh i see :) | 13:01 |
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frickler | hwoarang: if you can come up with working instructions to reproduce, that might be helpful | 13:03 |
hwoarang | frickler: in my bug report i simply used queens and 0.12.0 | 13:03 |
hwoarang | i mean openstack queens for all components and 0.12.0 for the sdk client | 13:03 |
hwoarang | and despite using --insecure it was trying to do ssl verification | 13:04 |
hwoarang | that's all i remember... | 13:04 |
frickler | hwoarang: o.k., but how do you deploy devstack with a self-signed cert? | 13:05 |
hwoarang | i was using openstack-ansible | 13:05 |
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cdent | dims: I'm still waiting on the hoped for clone | 14:07 |
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dims | cdent : "hoped for clone"? :) | 14:08 |
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cdent | I want to help out on the cloud provider stuff, but I simply haven't got enough of me go around. I asked for a clone, but none has shown up. | 14:08 |
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dims | hahaha | 14:09 |
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RaoulHC | I've added a new patch to a change I made, but managed to include lots of changes since the last patch set I added (some file permissions were wrong and git review half worked the first time), would anyone be able to suggest how to remove these changes? It's this change for reference https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552483 | 14:11 |
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cmurphy | RaoulHC: hiya, can you try to walk me through what git steps you took between patchset 2 and 3? | 14:12 |
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RaoulHC | I did a commit ammend with the change I wanted to add added, and then a git review, but this failed and left me with a bunch of unstaged files. I now realise this is probably where I went wrong but I added those to the commit to get it through git review | 14:14 |
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cmurphy | RaoulHC: do you remember what the error was when `git review` failed? | 14:18 |
cmurphy | I'm checking out the change but it is slow to download | 14:19 |
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RaoulHC | Should have written it down, but I think it was complaining about an being unable to unlink old files | 14:22 |
cmurphy | hmm, well I don't think I've run into that but I would recommend going back to patchset 2 and starting again from there | 14:22 |
RaoulHC | cool, I'll have a go at that. Thanks for the help :) | 14:23 |
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cmurphy | no problem, let me know if you hit a wall :) | 14:24 |
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ihrachys | zzzeek, hi. about our messy neutron detach / refresh code | 17:42 |
ihrachys | zzzeek, to give you an idea of what we were trying to solve with that, a pseudocode scenario is here: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/V23ej-e0rhbNaaHKy~gafg | 17:43 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: becasue you havent associated the two objects togehter | 17:43 |
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zzzeek | ihrachys: there's an evented approach you cna use to automatically expire the approrpriate relationship | 17:44 |
ihrachys | you mean I should have done parent.children = [child]? | 17:44 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: but this also gets into the "we want to detach our objects" thing, which is the bigger problem | 17:44 |
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zzzeek | ihrachys: ideally yes | 17:44 |
ihrachys | yeah. problem is that in reality it's not a single function. it's two separate pieces of code inserting the models. | 17:45 |
ihrachys | so what we were trying to do is saying - ok, something in between COULD insert some related models, so we want to get the latest | 17:45 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: its not that the code is unrelated, it's that you set foreign key attributes directly | 17:46 |
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zzzeek | ihrachys: there is a recipe to auto-expire relationships for that: https://bitbucket.org/zzzeek/sqlalchemy/wiki/UsageRecipes/ExpireRelationshipOnFKChange | 17:46 |
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zzzeek | ihrachys: though that's for many-to-one. for a collection it needs to be extended a bit | 17:47 |
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zzzeek | ihrachys: oh maybe not. i think it does it. | 17:48 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: the issue is neutron just kept homegrowing it's persistene logic without really planning out for these scenarios | 17:48 |
zzzeek | and then so much of openstack projects are, "we looked at X and just copied them" hence that cisco driver issue | 17:49 |
zzzeek | there is too much copying of detailed patterns that need to be moved into libraries with strict conventions and usages | 17:49 |
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openstackgerrit | melissaml proposed openstack/openstack-specs master: fix a typo in documentation https://review.openstack.org/555391 | 17:51 |
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ihrachys | zzzeek, I don't remember exact details about why we expunge but it was something about the model stored on the object not being scrapped from session which resulted consequent fetches of objects to return its state instead of the latest state of whatever the code after the fetch changed. I will try to remove the line now and see what fails with that. I remember it was something that bothered us for a while until we | 17:53 |
ihrachys | started to expunge. | 17:53 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: its a big issue that i talked to kbenton a lot with | 17:55 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: removing a line or two is not going to fix it :) | 17:56 |
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* zzzeek has to bbl | 17:56 | |
ihrachys | yeah I mean to understand why we have this detachment in OVO specifically. we don't do it in lots of places. | 17:56 |
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ihrachys | zzzeek, so I am trying the recipe and I get sqlalchemy.exc.InvalidRequestError: Instance '<Network at 0x7f311e7c5e10>' is not persistent within this Session when commit -> flush -> _expire_prop_on_col -> expire is triggered. (same if I just call flush right away after adding the model to the session) | 19:46 |
ihrachys | I thought I can flush any time | 19:46 |
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ihrachys | zzzeek, I reduced the scope to the simplest form I could come up with, without using objects / detach code at all, and it still fails with: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/UguPNrAKL11UNR35gqmuSQ | 20:36 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: the "not persistent" error is because it has been detached | 20:36 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: so what you may do with this event thing is not just expire the attribuge but also load it right away, by just doing getattr(obj, "key") | 20:37 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: however, that introduces performance penalty if you dont need all those lists | 20:37 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: this is all a vague echo of the convos I had with kevin | 20:37 |
ihrachys | the detach code you saw before is not triggered in this scenario, if that's what you mean | 20:37 |
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zzzeek | ihrachys: has to be becasue that's what that error means | 20:37 |
zzzeek | the object which you're calling expire() on is not part of that session | 20:38 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: the usual way I intended for ppl to use the Session is, every ORM object you have is in the session in the transaction | 20:38 |
ihrachys | but see the diff at the top. I just session.add a model and flush immediately | 20:38 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: it has to be a different Network object then | 20:39 |
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ihrachys | zzzeek, the id of the model is identical to the one in the error message | 20:40 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: yeah. somehting has to be happening | 20:40 |
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ihrachys | could it be that there is a loop where we call flush that triggers 'set' event that we call expire inside BEFORE we flush the parent? | 20:42 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: um, not sure | 20:43 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: oh. maybe...hmmmm | 20:44 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: OK yes, that might be the bug here | 20:44 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: brecause that's a pending object | 20:44 |
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ihrachys | zzzeek, that being said, I couldn't reproduce the same with the recipe | 20:46 |
ihrachys | I mean with its __main__ | 20:46 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: i think you need to say, "if target in session.dirty: session.expire(..)" | 20:47 |
zzzeek | so that a pending obj doesnt have that problem | 20:47 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: but also, hmm this is weird the event isnt intended to be fired in the flush anyway IIRC | 20:48 |
ihrachys | yes putting the dirty check fixes this specific failure | 20:48 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: ok | 20:49 |
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ihrachys | zzzeek, question about those three 'behaviors' in the recipe. do I need all of them? why are they optional? | 20:50 |
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zzzeek | ihrachys: well each "expire" means another thing that will emit SQL later which can be a problem | 20:51 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: for #3, i think this might have been some performance gaining save-a-SQL-statement trick | 20:51 |
zzzeek | ihrachys: yeah it's a performance trick | 20:52 |
ihrachys | zzzeek, gotcha. and I need the dirty check in all other behaviors right? | 20:52 |
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zzzeek | ihrachys: i think so, im kind of surprised hte recipe fails that easily. the way we can get through these is if you can make quick test.py scripts for me that show a failure and I can get it all working | 20:53 |
ihrachys | ok I will try to set something up. I suspect there is still neutron edge here so not sure if it will be easy to have totally isolated. at least the model definition may be of importance. it fails on standard_attr relationship that has non-obvious implementation. | 20:54 |
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