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ldlwho can help me with this post?07:46
ldlhttps://ask.openstack.org/en/question/109987/attached-the-floating-ip-success-but-i-can-not-ping-it-in-the-public-network/07:46
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/governance master: Updating the documentation team mission statement  https://review.openstack.org/49955611:07
openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/governance master: [WIP] Updating the documentation team mission statement  https://review.openstack.org/49955611:08
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openstackgerritWitold Bedyk proposed openstack/governance master: Add monasca-specs repository  https://review.openstack.org/49956811:41
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ldlI can not install the openstacksdk in my mac:12:15
ldlhttps://ask.openstack.org/en/question/110000/error-no-available-formula-with-the-name-openstacksdk/12:15
ldlWho can help me with this?12:16
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance master: add whereto to the list of repos for the docs team  https://review.openstack.org/49958112:33
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smcginnismordred: I'd be interested in your thoughts on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499342/14:53
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mordredsmcginnis: it's fine by me, given how we've decided to do things with versions and deprecations and whatnot14:53
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smcginnismordred: OK, great. Wanted to make sure there wasn't a big red flag from some scenario you knew about.14:54
mordredsmcginnis: I mean, I *personally* think we should not delete versions and that we should keep old versions installable and just mark them deprecated in the version discovery doc ... but that is not what we decided to do as a community, so I think at this point cinder dropping that v1 route is fine14:54
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smcginnismordred: Also hoping this makes it so eventually, someday, maybe we can use /volume/ as a base unversioned endpoint.14:55
smcginnismordred: But yeah, I get that.14:55
mordredsmcginnis: you know - you could totally do that today with v314:55
smcginnismordred: Don't we have a lot of assumptions that it will be v1?14:56
mordredoh - well hang on - two different conversations here - let's back up and be clearer real quick14:56
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mordredthe thing we're aiming towards is being able to use 'block-storage' as the service-type in the catalog - and have the URL listed as the endpoint for the block-storage service in the catalog be the unversioned cinder endpoint14:57
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smcginnismordred: Yeah, I do think that's a better overall approach.14:58
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mordredyou COULD do that today, but I think we need at least another cycle if not 2 to get consumption rolled out to everywhere14:58
mordred(we have all the bits to support this available, but they are only implemented in a very small subset of theplaces they need to be)14:58
smcginnisProbably at least two.14:58
mordredthe other thing is that you *could* today register all of the routes that are below /v3 on the cinder service just directly on /14:59
mordredas long as GET / continues to return the version discovery doc14:59
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mordredand you could have the entry for id: v3 in the version discovery doc just point to / instead of /v314:59
smcginnisOh, true.15:00
smcginnisCould get tricky with some of the URL parsing we still have in there.15:00
mordredand *also* have a /v3 route that isn't referenced in the version discovery doc that is essentially an alias15:00
mordredbecaus there's a TON of stuff out in the wild that assumes it can just add version strings to endpoints15:00
smcginnisYep15:00
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mordredthis is, fwiw, one of the reasons I'm pitching the global cloud profile doc with cached version info - but I owe everyone an updated versoin of that with better rationale and have been heads-down getting zuul v3out the door so have sliiped that15:01
smcginnisMy ultimate goal/hope is we can just have API v3 and there doesn't need to be any assumptions or conditional logic all over the place figuring what's available.15:01
smcginnisOther than microversions of course.15:02
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mordredI have a similar goal, but it basically is that we should be able to support both older installs that may have non-v3 AND newer modern intsalls with support for the newer modern install being the most efficient path but clients still being able to deal with older installs15:08
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smcginnisHiding that in things like shade is probably a better solution for now. As long the end consumer doesn't need to be aware of all the different conditions and caveats.15:21
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mordredyup15:24
mordredsmcginnis: well - mainly that's why I've got that giant "how to consume the Openstack API" doc written up (that I also need to update)15:25
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mordredsince it covers getting from the catalog/token to any version of any service- but it's intent is to present that in an optimized path for folks consuming new shiny clouds15:25
smcginnis++15:26
mordredso that library authors can implement the logic correctly and consistently - but people writing pure rest code can potentially just stick to the modern shiny version and not worry about it15:26
mordredsmcginnis: it's ... an ugly mutli-step path to get there - but we'll get there15:26
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