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| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Revise the format https://review.openstack.org/487267 | 03:42 |
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| inc0 | good morning, ttx did you happen to know which days Kolla will have on PTG? | 15:50 |
| inc0 | or anyone for that matter:) ^ | 15:50 |
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| andymccr | inc0: https://www.openstack.org/ptg/#tab_schedule & https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1xmOdT6uZ5XqViActr5sBOaz_mEgjKSCY7NEWcAEcT-A/pubhtml?gid=397241312&single=true | 15:52 |
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| inc0 | hank you | 15:53 |
| inc0 | thank* | 15:53 |
| andymccr | no problem! | 15:53 |
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| trevormc | having trouble getting mysql to start.. ive pinned the issue down to the bind-address into my.cnf | 19:12 |
| trevormc | If I replace 0.0.0.0 with 127.0.0.1 mysql starts no problem.. but devstack does a iniset for 0.0.0.0 so it always fails.. is there something I'm doing wrong? | 19:12 |
| trevormc | the local.conf is the minimum conf too.. its annoying.. ive tried puring mysql a couple time. | 19:13 |
| trevormc | purging* | 19:13 |
| clarkb | trevormc: try using nc to listen on the mysql port on 0.0.0.0 and see if that works | 19:13 |
| clarkb | and if not see what errors you get | 19:14 |
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| trevormc | nc? | 19:14 |
| clarkb | netcat, ist a little utility useful for listening on ports or connecting to servers | 19:14 |
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| clarkb | nc -l 0.0.0.0 $port | 19:15 |
| clarkb | 3306 for mysql iirc | 19:16 |
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| trevormc | first I tried, netcat 0.0.0.0 3306 this yielded no output | 19:17 |
| trevormc | then i tried what you said, then it said nc: Address already in use | 19:18 |
| trevormc | oh that's an i .. | 19:18 |
| clarkb | that implies another server is already running | 19:18 |
| clarkb | netstat -lnp | grep 3306 to see what is on port 3306 | 19:19 |
| trevormc | TCP receive window invalid: 0.0.0.0 | 19:19 |
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| trevormc | ah it shows something else on the network listening, I guess I can look up the iptables rules to remove it? | 19:20 |
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| clarkb | no this is indepednent of iptables | 19:21 |
| clarkb | it should show you what process has that port open | 19:21 |
| clarkb | possibly an old mysql that is hanging around | 19:22 |
| trevormc | its also a different ip then the host im on. | 19:22 |
| clarkb | are you in a container? | 19:23 |
| trevormc | it may be something associated with the proxy, but I had it working just last week. oh well, this has got me started on this issue, thanks | 19:23 |
| trevormc | no its not a container | 19:24 |
| clarkb | note iptables doesn't prevent processes from listening on ports, it only affects packets flowing between ports/IPs | 19:24 |
| clarkb | (this is why messing with iptables won't have an affect) | 19:24 |
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| fungi | trevormc: checked dmesg output? selinux/apparmor can prevent processes from binding listening sockets even when they're unused | 19:57 |
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| efried | dhellmann Here's an interesting question for ya, related to oslo config (CC mordred) | 20:20 |
| dhellmann | efried : all ears | 20:20 |
| efried | We're defining conf options in ksa and then importing them in nova. | 20:20 |
| dhellmann | ksa? | 20:20 |
| efried | keystoneauth1 | 20:20 |
| dhellmann | "importing"? | 20:21 |
| efried | :) | 20:21 |
| efried | one sec. | 20:21 |
| efried | dhellmann See bottom of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458257/12/nova/conf/glance.py | 20:21 |
| dhellmann | oh | 20:21 |
| dhellmann | hrm | 20:21 |
| dhellmann | I think I understand why that's the way it is, ok | 20:22 |
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| efried | https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/blob/master/keystoneauth1/loading/adapter.py#L35 | 20:22 |
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| mordred | yah - and that's where they're defined | 20:22 |
| efried | dhellmann Soanyway... We're wondering if it's possible to override the default value from the nova side. | 20:22 |
| dhellmann | I would think so | 20:23 |
| dhellmann | someone probably wants to make a copy.deepcopy() of the data structure first | 20:23 |
| dhellmann | either ksa or nova | 20:23 |
| efried | Would have to do it from nova | 20:23 |
| dhellmann | yeah, then you'd just use set_defaults | 20:24 |
| efried | The point is to avoid doing this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458257/12/nova/utils.py@1527 | 20:24 |
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| efried | dhellmann set_defaults is something I could call from that conf/glance.py? | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.config/tree/oslo_config/cfg.py#n792 | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | efried : sure | 20:25 |
| mordred | efried: you could probably just split it ... | 20:25 |
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| mordred | efried: call get_conf_options instead of register_conf_options | 20:25 |
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| mordred | efried: then you'd have the conf objects and can could do a set_default on the interface one | 20:26 |
| mordred | then do the register? | 20:26 |
| dhellmann | but note that changing the default modifies the Opt instance, which is why you want to make the copy | 20:26 |
| mordred | ah- gotcha | 20:26 |
| dhellmann | otherwise if something else registers keystoneauth1 options in a different place, they get the new default, too :-) | 20:26 |
| efried | dhellmann Actually, I think that's what we want. | 20:27 |
| dhellmann | but yeah, mordred, splitting the "get a list" from the "register these" steps will be key | 20:27 |
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| dhellmann | efried : maybe. maybe you'll find some other user of keystoneauth1 that doesn't want your defaults for some reason; I don't know. | 20:28 |
| efried | dhellmann Oh, I thought I was gonna do the register, and then set_defaults(conf.opts, interface='foo') | 20:28 |
| dhellmann | and efried don't forget to update the defaults in the path the sample generator uses to discover options | 20:28 |
| efried | dhellmann Mm, wherezat? | 20:29 |
| dhellmann | efried : you could do that, except that these options are being registered in a group, so it's likely going to be easier to either write your own new set_defaults or use the one in oslo.config where you pass a list of Opt instances to it | 20:29 |
| dhellmann | those don't have to be registered for the default updates to take effect | 20:29 |
| dhellmann | the defaults are stored on the Opt not the ConfigOpts | 20:30 |
| dhellmann | that list_opts() function you pointed to in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458257/12/nova/conf/glance.py is probably being registered as one of the entry points for discovering options | 20:30 |
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| dhellmann | it looks like nova built their own internal registry system for those | 20:31 |
| efried | whee. In setup.cfg I see this: | 20:31 |
| efried | [entry_points] | 20:31 |
| efried | oslo.config.opts = | 20:31 |
| efried | nova.conf = nova.conf.opts:list_opts | 20:31 |
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| efried | That's the only place I see list_opts being used. | 20:31 |
| dhellmann | right, and that is doing some sort of magic | 20:32 |
| efried | But point is that I would want to have list_opts() and register_opts() using the same stuff. | 20:32 |
| dhellmann | 'find all the modules called "opts" and import them and get their list_opts functions" | 20:32 |
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| dhellmann | that's right | 20:32 |
| dhellmann | otherwise the documented defaults will be different from the actual defaults | 20:32 |
| efried | dhellmann Cool, I think I may have enough to run with here. Thanks for the help. | 20:34 |
| dhellmann | efried : np | 20:35 |
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| efried | mordred Ima do this in a followon, so as not to muddy things. | 20:35 |
| efried | (or mebbe so I can make sure I'm doing it right, and mebbe I squash it in after) | 20:36 |
| mordred | efried: ++ | 20:36 |
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| efried | mordred One problem with this... | 20:40 |
| mordred | efried: yeah? | 20:40 |
| efried | get_service_url optionally accepts an already-built ksa Adapter. | 20:40 |
| efried | If we get that, we don't load up the conf. | 20:40 |
| efried | So if someone passes in such an Adapter with no interface set, we won't get that default. | 20:40 |
| mordred | efried: what code flows in nova passes one in? | 20:40 |
| efried | mordred Probably nothing yet :) | 20:41 |
| mordred | efried: :) | 20:41 |
| efried | And actually, I think that's not a terrible thing for that default not to happen. | 20:41 |
| efried | Uh, it'll try 'public' by default in that case, nah? | 20:41 |
| mordred | efried: I mean, at this point I think you shoud just migrate to making rest calls on adapters - but thats a whole additional cycle of work :) | 20:41 |
| mordred | efried: yah - public | 20:42 |
| efried | (which, btw, seems to be hardcoded into ksa, not the default in the conf :) | 20:42 |
| mordred | efried: which is why you need to e able to set a default | 20:42 |
| mordred | yah | 20:42 |
| mordred | so I think being able to at least set the defaults on the Opt options is important | 20:42 |
| mordred | and if anyone is building an Adapter in nova _not_ using load_from_conf_options - then that's a problem | 20:42 |
| mordred | since they are, at that point, going rogue | 20:43 |
| efried | Oh | 20:43 |
| efried | Well, okay, so the actual reason for me to accept that param in get_service_url is in case they have an adapter they made earlier. | 20:43 |
| efried | But what you're saying is that they should have made that adapter by loading conf options anyway. | 20:43 |
| mordred | yes | 20:44 |
| mordred | because otherwise how would the deployer tell them how to make it | 20:44 |
| efried | Soooo... I should just do the conf default thing and not do the defaulting in get_service_url, and if they've cleared out the interface in that adapter or made the adapter some other how, then it's on them. | 20:44 |
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| mordred | yha - that's my take | 20:47 |
| efried | mordred dhellmann Might look something like this: https://review.openstack.org/487581 ? | 20:47 |
| mordred | efried: yah | 20:48 |
| efried | mordred Oh, but I probably need to set_defaults(opts, interface=None, valid_interfaces=[that list]) | 20:48 |
| efried | ugh, that gets ugly. | 20:48 |
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| efried | mordred Because of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482743/9/keystoneauth1/loading/adapter.py | 20:50 |
| lrossetti | Hello, I am trying to sign the contributors agreement but I always get this error: -32603 Cannot store contact information | 20:50 |
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| mordred | efried: why's that a problem? or, rather, why even bother setting a default on it? | 20:51 |
| mordred | OH | 20:51 |
| efried | mordred Because we support both ... yeah | 20:51 |
| mordred | yah | 20:51 |
| mordred | I see | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | efried : given that keystoneauth1 owns the name of those options, you probably want to eventually put set_defaults into keystoneauth1 | 20:51 |
| efried | dhellmann Well, I'm not sure keystoneauth1 and nova have the same idea of what the defaults should be, swhy I'm overriding it in nova. | 20:52 |
| dhellmann | efried : you'd put the function into keystoneauth1 and nova would call it | 20:52 |
| mordred | yah- the nova defaults here are very much not the right defaults for ksa | 20:52 |
| mordred | dhellmann: ++ | 20:52 |
| dhellmann | that way when/if ksa changes the name of an option, it can change the implementation of the function (retaining the arg with the old name but updating the new option) and nova won't break | 20:52 |
| mordred | efried: I think that error on providing them both is something we need to rethink | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | option names are not supposed to be part of a library's API because that makes them harder to change | 20:53 |
| efried | dhellmann Alas, that ship hath sailed... | 20:53 |
| efried | Which is the thing mordred and I are banging our heads on right now, in fact. (I.e. you're totally right.) | 20:53 |
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| efried | mordred What would the behavior be if both are supplied? Ignore interface and just use valid-interfaces? | 20:54 |
| efried | Or glom 'em together? | 20:54 |
| mordred | efried: that's a really tricky question ... I'm not sure there's an answer here I like | 20:54 |
| * dims peeks | 20:55 | |
| mordred | efried: oh! wait- you are adding these options to nova in this patch | 20:55 |
| efried | mordred Yes, fresh stuff. Does that help? | 20:55 |
| mordred | efried: so we will not have any deployers who exist who will have config files with the old value in it | 20:55 |
| mordred | efried: yES! | 20:55 |
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| mordred | efried: delete the interface opt from the list completely | 20:55 |
| mordred | efried: don't pass it to register | 20:56 |
| efried | mordred Gotcha. | 20:56 |
| mordred | once you get it from nova | 20:56 |
| mordred | in | 20:56 |
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| mordred | then you can set the default value like before and we don't have to worry about that | 20:56 |
| efried | mordred Updating... | 20:56 |
| mordred | PHEW | 20:56 |
| efried | yup. | 20:56 |
| mordred | and nova users get a nice new clean thing | 20:56 |
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| efried | mordred get_conf_options should take a flag that only returns opts that aren't deprecated. | 20:58 |
| mordred | efried: ++ | 20:58 |
| efried | too late for that, prolly. | 20:58 |
| mordred | efried: I think that's a great idea | 20:58 |
| mordred | efried: well - we haven't cut 3.0.2 with those bugfixes yet | 20:59 |
| efried | mordred On it. | 20:59 |
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| mordred | efried: let's go ask lbragstad real quick | 21:00 |
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| lbragstad | mordred: efried what can i help with? | 21:00 |
| mordred | lbragstad: we haven't cut 3.0.2 of ksa yet - while working on nova usage efried has pointed out that loading.get_conf_options should have an option to not return deprecated options | 21:00 |
| mordred | lbragstad: do you think that's small enough to squeeze in? or should we just do a nova-side filter for now and queue that option up for next release? | 21:01 |
| lbragstad | seems like a small change, but i'd defer to dhellmann and dims as to *if* we can do that | 21:01 |
| lbragstad | since we're already past the deadline | 21:02 |
| dims | lbragstad : bug fix right? | 21:03 |
| lbragstad | mordred: do you have a bug open for this? | 21:03 |
| lbragstad | i don't think i've seen one come through ksa yet | 21:03 |
| mordred | well - I mean - we can frame it as a bug fix | 21:04 |
| smcginnis | lbragstad, mordred: Is there more coming from this? https://github.com/openstack/keystoneauth/compare/3.0.1...master | 21:04 |
| mordred | but it depends on how we want to think about this from an intent perspective | 21:04 |
| lbragstad | square peg, round hole | 21:04 |
| efried | lbragstad Would look like this: https://review.openstack.org/487590 | 21:04 |
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| mordred | (basically - the deficiency we found is that there's no way to add these new options to nova without also adding the old option we don't want anyone to use anymore - and having both the old and thenew option there makes setting defaults potentially tricky) | 21:06 |
| mordred | lbragstad: maybe I shoujld just file a bug? | 21:06 |
| efried | mordred Oh - Session already has this | 21:06 |
| efried | But with the reverse logic :( | 21:06 |
| mordred | efried: oh? looking | 21:07 |
| efried | (i.e. the logic that makes sense, but which would break compat with 3.0.[01] if we did it that way for Adapter) | 21:07 |
| lbragstad | smcginnis: sorry - what do you mean? | 21:07 |
| efried | oh | 21:07 |
| efried | mordred Never mind, the option is nothing like this one. | 21:07 |
| smcginnis | lbragstad: Just along the lines of whether we should do another release past the deadline and seeing what would be included. | 21:07 |
| lbragstad | oh - sure | 21:07 |
| smcginnis | lbragstad: Getting a feel for the risk in doing so. | 21:08 |
| lbragstad | yeah - not much has gone into master that didn't go out the door with 3.0.1 | 21:08 |
| lbragstad | it'd be another super small release | 21:08 |
| mordred | smcginnis: yah- and those two patches are actually bugfixes for 3.0.1 | 21:08 |
| mordred | (this is the fallout from us actually trying to USE the new features in 3.0.1 in otherthings :) ) | 21:08 |
| efried | Is the g-r minimum going to get bumped to 3.0.2? | 21:09 |
| smcginnis | mordred: And this new one would be specifically to fix a bug with working with Nova, if I understood right? | 21:09 |
| smcginnis | new one == new patch | 21:09 |
| mordred | smcginnis: yes | 21:10 |
| mordred | efried: yes | 21:10 |
| smcginnis | Seems like the risk of doing a 3.0.2 would be pretty small then. | 21:10 |
| mordred | smcginnis, lbragstad, efried: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystoneauth/+bug/1706775 bug filed | 21:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1706775 in keystoneauth "deprecated adapter options are loaded unconditionally" [Undecided,New] | 21:10 |
| efried | mordred I was gonna go through the other get_conf_options and add the flag to those too. Should I not do that? | 21:11 |
| efried | Looks like that would get a tad complicated. | 21:12 |
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| mordred | efried: yah - I think we should keep the surface area small ... or, you could just do the filtering on the nova side- it wouldn't be SUPER terrible | 21:16 |
| mordred | efried: if you extract a method from the places (glance, ironic, cinder) where you're doing the three ks_loading calls | 21:17 |
| efried | mordred Yeah, I'm going to have to do the defaulting from all three as well. | 21:17 |
| mordred | efried: like make a "register_ks_opts" method you call in all three place - then you'd have a single place to to default setting and filtering | 21:17 |
| efried | lbragstad mordred smcginnis dims https://review.openstack.org/487590 should be ready to go, then. | 21:17 |
| efried | mordred Problem is where to put that guy. | 21:17 |
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| smcginnis | Cool, was wondering if we might need to make it a 3.1.0, but since the new option defaults to the old behavior, I think we're good. | 21:18 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 21:19 |
| efried | smcginnis Yeah, woulda preferred it the other way, but oh well. | 21:19 |
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| smcginnis | mordred: Boarded with zone 2 but luckily still had plenty of overhead space. | 21:23 |
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| mordred | smcginnis: \o/ - I had to gate-check my bag, but that was just becauase it didn't fit | 21:24 |
| smcginnis | mordred: Not bad. | 21:25 |
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| efried | mordred dhellmann Updated https://review.openstack.org/487581 - which will break until ksa 3.0.2 - but centralizes the mucking-with-adapter-options stuff. | 21:30 |
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| fungi | lrossetti: i was the one answering you on the mailing list... if you have any related questions you can feel free to ask me in here too (or ask in #openstack-infra which is where our sysadmins for those systems tend to pay closer attention) | 22:20 |
| fungi | sorry i didn't see your question in here until i was skimming scrollback just now | 22:20 |
| lrossetti | fungi: no worries, thanks for the help, it's all set and signed now :) | 22:21 |
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| fungi | excellent | 22:22 |
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