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| openstackgerrit | Billy Olsen proposed openstack/governance master: Add charm-interface-gluster-peer https://review.openstack.org/484333 | 11:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Billy Olsen proposed openstack/governance master: Add charm-interface-gluster-peer https://review.openstack.org/484333 | 11:32 |
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| fungi | diablo_rojo_phon: persia__: when you get a moment, please see the draft announcement pad i've linked in my latest comment at https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001094 and help me revise as you see fit. i'd still like to send it early this week if possible | 11:43 |
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| persia__ | fungi: OOh. That change looks like it should make things easier. The text looks OK to e a | 12:08 |
| persia__ | s/e a/me also/ | 12:08 |
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| mordred | dhellmann, fried_rice: I believe https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484018/ is good to go and I _think_ should be good enough for a first release so that we can start consuming it places | 12:13 |
| mordred | cdent: ^^ you too | 12:14 |
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| cdent | mordred: had to vote no on the no-CacheControl lib, but otherwise looks great and could be (easily) convinced to let go of my negativity | 12:56 |
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| mordred | cdent: nod- I went back and forth on that one myself for a while. I fell on the no side mostly because there is a lot of logic in cachecontrol that we don't need and I didn't want to add to the long tail of getting this into a ksa release this week by adding the need for getting it added to global-requirements ... | 13:04 |
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| mordred | cdent: that said, making a version of that that uses CacheControl at this point should be fairly easy - and I did push up a patch to make service-types.o.o emit cache-control headers | 13:04 |
| mordred | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484163/ | 13:04 |
| mordred | speaking of ... fungi ^^ | 13:05 |
| cdent | that’s part of why I mentioned the heuristics: you can do caching without the headers if you want to: http://cachecontrol.readthedocs.io/en/latest/custom_heuristics.html | 13:05 |
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| mordred | cdent: good point | 13:07 |
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| cdent | if it’s a case of “yeah we should do it soon” then that’s cool with me | 13:07 |
| cdent | but the “don’t have dependencies” on something as funkity as caching seems wasteful to me | 13:08 |
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| mordred | yah - I think it's more "yeah we should do it soon" - how about I go ahead and write a followup that converts to cachecontrol, and then if the various requirements patches land we can land it and if not we don't have to block on it? | 13:09 |
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| cdent | sounds ossum to me | 13:10 |
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| fungi | thanks persia__! | 13:49 |
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| cdent | anybody know a way to ‘pip install -egit+https://github.com/openstack/nova#egg=nova' that doesn’t get all of history? I’m aware of the discussion on https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2432 but wonder if there were additional tricks | 14:01 |
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| mordred | cdent: just pip install the master tarball | 14:03 |
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| mordred | cdent: https://tarballs.openstack.org/nova/nova-master.tar.gz | 14:04 |
| cdent | mordred: thanks, that should do, I don’t need perfectly up to the minute freshy fresh so that should be fine | 14:05 |
| mordred | cdent: that's also pretty-darned-close to up to the minute fresh- it gets built in a post job after each commit - so it's only as stale as building and uploading a tarball :) | 14:05 |
| cdent | that’s like whole seconds! | 14:06 |
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| cdent | ah, feh mordred: i need the guts of the repo (including tox.ini) to what I’m doing (tests within tests), so tarball not really doing what I need | 14:15 |
| mordred | we're not shipping tox.ini in the tarball? | 14:17 |
| mordred | I would consider that a bug in our tarball | 14:17 |
| mordred | cdent: tox.ini is in the tarball | 14:18 |
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| cdent | yes, but pip installing it eventually dismisses it, so I have to do something more manaul | 14:19 |
| cdent | which is fine | 14:19 |
| cdent | but meh | 14:19 |
| mordred | ah - gotcha - yes, pip install will not install the tox.ini | 14:19 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | fungi: I looked it over and have my blessing end of last week :) | 14:23 |
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| fungi | diablo_rojo_phon: okay, thanks. saw you say you were going to read it but didn't see you say anything after that. much appreciated! | 14:23 |
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| dims | fungi : will we publish the list of folks eligible to vote at some point? | 16:34 |
| fungi | dims: we haven't in the past, but certainly can | 16:34 |
| fungi | i'd be hesitant to put their e-mail addresses up in a huge list though (even though they're public info) just so as not to make them quite as easy a target for spammers | 16:35 |
| fungi | but names should be doable | 16:35 |
| dims | right, was thinking it may make it easier for folks to check if they will receive an email (or make sure they get extra-atc before hand) | 16:36 |
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| fungi | i wonder though where a good place would be to list that | 16:36 |
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| dims | somewhere under https://governance.openstack.org/election/ ? | 16:38 |
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| smcginnis | Please no email addresses. :) | 16:39 |
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| fungi | dims: that site is auto-published... i suppose we could try to set up some periodically updating list of names on a subpage there | 16:40 |
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| fungi | an initial alternative, i guess, is that i can send an e-mail to the ml with a list of names in an attachment (hopefully a few thousand lines of names won't be too large for the ml) | 16:41 |
| fungi | though i need to confirm with diablo_rojo_phon and persia__ when the start date for contributions counting toward the queens ptl electorate is | 16:42 |
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| fungi | as well as getting the last of the extra-atcs additions merged and the governance repo tagged | 16:44 |
| fungi | and i also still need to whip up a patch to integrate reference/legacy.yaml so qualifying contributions from since-retired/removed projects and deliverables get counted toward the electorate | 16:45 |
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| jungleboyj | Anyone here who can help provide devstack troubleshooting advice? | 18:48 |
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| jungleboyj | I am on a ubuntu 16.04.2 box and when I try to do ./stack.sh it keeps failing complaining that the etcd-v3.1.7-linux-amd64.tar.gz checksum doesn't match. | 18:51 |
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| clarkb | jungleboyj: I would check it manually. And if not matching move file aside and rerun. also co sider potential memory issues or disk issues | 18:56 |
| jungleboyj | clarkb: Ok. I don't think I have memory or disk issues. Have 20 GB of memory and all the disks are doing ok. | 18:57 |
| jungleboyj | The tar that seems to get pulled is bad. When I try to extract it by hand it gives an error. Let me try a couple more things. | 18:58 |
| jungleboyj | I just wanted to be sure I wasn't being totally stupid. | 18:58 |
| jungleboyj | clarkb: Oh weird. I am having a DNS failure pulling the file down so I end up with a 0 sized file. There is the root of my problem. | 19:03 |
| jungleboyj | clarkb: Thank you. | 19:03 |
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| jungleboyj | clarkb: Now I am on to a requirements issue. :-) | 19:10 |
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| mordred | smcginnis: I want to cry a little bit | 19:11 |
| mordred | smcginnis: OpenStack-API-Version: volume 3.0 | 19:11 |
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| mordred | smcginnis: wherein we've decided that 'block-storage' is the 'right' service-type for cinder, but the microversion header uses the word 'volume' | 19:12 |
| jungleboyj | :-( | 19:12 |
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| mordred | smcginnis: I'm kinda thinking that 'block-storage' is a mistake and volume v1 is old enough that the theoretical concern that volume implies v1 is less pain than actually getting volume changed to block-storage consistently | 19:13 |
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| jungleboyj | mordred: From a documentation perspective block-storage has been used pretty consistently. | 19:15 |
| mordred | smcginnis: or else what we should do is, since OpenStack-API-Version is designed ot send more than one value - is send the official AND all the aliases in the list | 19:15 |
| jungleboyj | It does seem that the API-Version should do the same. | 19:16 |
| mordred | jungleboyj: yah - the biggest issue atm is being able to know what header to send if the information you know is "service_type" | 19:16 |
| mordred | jungleboyj: ++ | 19:16 |
| mordred | let's start with send-all-aliases - and then someone can workon getting the 'right' value to send to cinder to be block-storage | 19:16 |
| jungleboyj | mordred: As much as I am used to 'volume' we should get moved to block-storage. | 19:17 |
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| fungi | diablo_rojo_phon: persia__: kudos on the ptl election timeline! i think this is the first time (at least in many cycles) that we've had more than 24 hours between the cutoff for contributions and the start of the election. this will make generating and scrutinizing the rolls much more comfortable and not rushed | 19:44 |
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| smcginnis | mordred: Yeah, I think we went with "volume" before some of the service naming discussions really started. | 20:25 |
| smcginnis | mordred: We could certainly look at sending alias to give a transition period to move to block-storage. | 20:25 |
| smcginnis | mordred: I'm not sure though - do you think it would be worth the extra work? | 20:26 |
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| cdent | zaneb: :( | 20:30 |
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| zaneb | cdent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450415/21 ? | 20:31 |
| cdent | zaneb: yeah | 20:31 |
| zaneb | I mean, maybe we are still on the success path | 20:33 |
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| cdent | zaneb: I had forgotten about that change somewhere along the way, hadn’t know that it had gone seemingly a bit awry | 20:33 |
| zaneb | but it's not obvious from that spec anymore imho | 20:33 |
| cdent | yeah | 20:33 |
| zaneb | mordred: o/ ^ | 20:33 |
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| zaneb | cdent: my plan is to post some suggestions to the mailing list next | 20:34 |
| zaneb | will tag with nova & keystone | 20:35 |
| cdent | seems like a good plan, lest it fade away | 20:35 |
| zaneb | yeah, spec already merged so I assume most people won't see my comment | 20:35 |
| zaneb | just reading the policy roadmap specs now to see if they contain the answer (I assume not though) | 20:36 |
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| mordred | zaneb: heya! that's next on my list for non-infra related thigns to hack on after we get this keystoneauth/service-type alias/version discovery stuff out the door | 20:49 |
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| zaneb | mordred: I don't see a solution that keep keystoners happy unless it involves forced credential rotation (which would basically have to be in nova, AWS-style afaics) | 20:51 |
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| mordred | zaneb: I think there's a solution - I just have it mostly paged out at the moment - but I remember thinking it was solvable at the time we had that big discussion | 20:55 |
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| mordred | zaneb: (which is not me trying to blow you off - I agree it's a thing that needs to be solved, I've just got a ton of state around api versions paged in and trying to make a lib freeze deadline - so I want to be careful to not get sucked in to diving in too deep on that one this week) | 20:56 |
| zaneb | mordred: yeah, don't page that stuff out ! | 20:56 |
| mordred | zaneb: :) we've almost got it ALL in | 20:58 |
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