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| openstackgerrit | James Page proposed openstack/governance master: charms: Add deployment guide https://review.openstack.org/483428 | 14:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Garbutt proposed openstack/governance master: Describe what upstream support means https://review.openstack.org/440601 | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Y. Choi proposed openstack/governance master: Refresh I18n ATC list https://review.openstack.org/483452 | 15:53 |
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| efried | tonyb dhellmann Just noticed this in g-r: enum34;python_version=='2.7' or python_version=='2.6' or python_version=='3.3' # BSD | 15:55 |
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| efried | Should that say python_version=='3.5' at this point? | 15:55 |
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| smcginnis | efried: I don't think so. I think it's a normal package after >3.3, so it only applies as a separate package for those versions of python listed. | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | Though I think we could shorten that to just have the "python_version=='2.7' at this point. | 16:01 |
| efried | oh, I gotcha. | 16:01 |
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| fungi | ianychoi: i audited your extra-atc additions to make sure they're all foundation individual members and came up with a few issues. see my inline comments on that change | 16:53 |
| fungi | to qualify as an atc, our foundation bylaws and tc charter require foundation individual membership | 16:54 |
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| clayg | i sorta saw SIG something something on the ML - and *totally* meant to understand it - but didn't make the effort - now it keeps comeing up and I'm paralyzed by FOMO - does anyone have the tl;dr on WTF SIG? | 17:23 |
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| cdent | heh clayg I hear that | 17:26 |
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| clayg | no it's good - email archive found ttx's intro and I'm already feeling like I can totally fake it like I know what I'm talking about | 17:27 |
| cdent | If I recall correctly, the oomph to have sigs is to try to restructure things so that some of the things currently covered by user committee groups are driven by more ad hoc an opportunistic groups, to be called sigs, modeled after k8s | 17:27 |
| clayg | special interest groups - totally ramped up | 17:28 |
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| clayg | cdent: thanks! | 17:30 |
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| dhellmann | clayg, cdent : the point is to have groups not "chartered by" the TC or UC, to try to make the membership broader. The new name is meant to help differentiate from working groups. | 17:30 |
| cdent | the reason for making a new mailing list, I think, was to make it more clear that anyone interested can go join those things | 17:30 |
| cdent | (not dev/operator/user classes) | 17:31 |
| dhellmann | right | 17:31 |
| clayg | wfm! | 17:31 |
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| clayg | so is the landing page for "list of SIGs" setup? is the openstack-sig ML ready for me to sign up!? | 17:32 |
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| clayg | hrm... I might be a little early adaptor here... "sig" doesn't appear on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists | 17:32 |
| clayg | ok, i should probably chill out then - i'm probably not missing much ... *yet* ;) | 17:33 |
| clayg | dhellmann: thanks! | 17:33 |
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| dhellmann | clayg : if you go to lists.openstack.org you'll find the sig list | 17:35 |
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| dhellmann | I don't know if we have a list of sigs yet. | 17:35 |
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| clayg | dhellmann: cool - i'm subscribed - so awesome - thanks | 17:36 |
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| bodgix | Good morning. Still looking for a Worflow +1 on this devstack bugfix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478525/ thanks! | 17:45 |
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| tonyb | efried: what smcginnis said :) | 20:46 |
| efried | tonyb Thanks. Want me to propose that patch? | 20:47 |
| efried | Hardly seems worth it. | 20:47 |
| tonyb | efried: Sure. | 20:47 |
| efried | Considering all the reviews the bot will generate as a result. | 20:47 |
| tonyb | Used by 12 projects | 20:48 |
| tonyb | efried: http://paste.openstack.org/show/615321/ | 20:49 |
| tonyb | efried: Well that's 12 projects that have managed requirements there are probably othebrs too | 20:49 |
| efried | tonyb But those will have their own independent req | 20:50 |
| tonyb | Yup | 20:51 |
| efried | tonyb And we're confident that all 12 of those projects no longer support py26 or py33? | 20:52 |
| tonyb | efried: on master? Yup, older branches we're less sure | 20:53 |
| efried | Is py34 still supported? | 20:53 |
| tonyb | for master we only care about py27, py34 and py35 | 20:53 |
| efried | k | 20:53 |
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| efried | tonyb smcginnis https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483555/ | 20:55 |
| tonyb | efried: Thanks. | 20:56 |
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| efried | tonyb Please see comment I just posted. | 20:58 |
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| tonyb | efried: Cool thatnks. Cleaning that up has been on the TODO list for a while now :( | 20:59 |
| efried | tonyb Oh, okay, didn't know anyone cared :) | 20:59 |
| tonyb | efried: Sdaly there is a difference between careing and action :( | 21:00 |
| tonyb | anyway I need to get breakfast into kids | 21:00 |
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| efried | enjoy | 21:02 |
| efried | mordred Noodling ways to support M.latest | 21:02 |
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| efried | mordred Was toying with the idea of converting it to maxint | 21:03 |
| efried | especially for purposes of normalize_version_number | 21:03 |
| efried | thoughts? | 21:03 |
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| dmsimard | dhellmann: I remember seeing this PBR error a while back, now I'm seeing it for cliff. Does it ring you a bell ? http://paste.openstack.org/raw/615325/ | 21:24 |
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| dmsimard | /maybe/ something about an out of date setuptools or distutils... | 21:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack/governance master: Remove nonexistent deb-mistral-dashboard https://review.openstack.org/483577 | 21:52 |
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| ianychoi | fungi, I thought having openstackid satisfies "our foundation bylaws and tc charter require foundation individual membership" thing. I will more see later (maybe tomorrow). Thank u! | 22:02 |
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| fungi | ianychoi: right, just having an openstackid is insufficient. to vote in technical elections the contributors must also be foundation individual members | 22:05 |
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| fungi | ianychoi: Bylaws of the OpenStack Foundation Appendix 4 Technical Committee Member Policy ยง3.b https://www.openstack.org/legal/technical-committee-member-policy/ | 22:06 |
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| fungi | ianychoi: OpenStack Technical Committee Charter definitions for APC and ATC https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/charter.html#voters-for-ptl-seats-apc https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/charter.html#voters-for-tc-seats-atc | 22:06 |
| fungi | some "light" reading ;) | 22:06 |
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| fungi | ianychoi: for now anyone submitting changes to gerrit for official deliverables has to link up their gerrit account to their foundation membership (normally done at account creation), but for extra-atcs additions that step has to be performed manually | 22:10 |
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| mordred | efried: wfm! I thnik that'sa great way todo it | 22:10 |
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| efried | mordred Okeydokey. You may change your mind when you see this patch. | 22:10 |
| efried | (cause I floated the idea before I started on it) | 22:11 |
| mordred | efried: :) | 22:13 |
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| efried | mordred Ima throw this up here as it stands - still a WIP, but want to see what you think of the approach. | 22:44 |
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| mordred | kk | 22:53 |
| efried | mordred Sec, rebase hell, caused by self. | 22:54 |
| mordred | efried: I understand that hell well | 22:54 |
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| efried | mordred bollz, I gotta run, throwing it up with a couple UT failures pending. Nevertheless, the approach... | 22:56 |
| efried | https://review.openstack.org/483604 <== mordred | 22:56 |
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| mordred | efried: cool - hopefully we can crank and get this stack finished | 23:30 |
| mordred | efried: I feel like my brain has been dealing with this for WAY too long | 23:31 |
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