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| kornicameister | hi, does openstack remove projects (i.e. from github), or rather repositories ? we are looking for a way to clean-up one of our repos and that was one of the ideas, another was to temporarily disable all the gates (or put them to NV stage) | 05:38 |
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| kornicameister | any hint is appreciated :) | 05:38 |
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| clarkb | kornicameister: https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#retiring-a-project | 05:41 |
| kornicameister | clarkb: thx, that is pretty much the same thing AJaeger told me | 05:45 |
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| kornicameister | hi again, did anyone hit the problem with sphinx-autodoc (check here for output => http://logs.openstack.org/89/437889/33/check/gate-monasca-log-api-docs-ubuntu-xenial/ef346dc/) | 06:27 |
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| kornicameister | ```tox -v -e venv -- python setup.py build_sphinx``` works well enough locally for me, but fails on gate | 06:27 |
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| sidx64 | Hello! I am building a new OpenStack environment in my Organization's Data Center. I am planning to deploy OpenStack Ocata. I have a question regarding default security groups. Is there a way to ensure that a specific port is turned on, irrespective of the security group being applied by the tenant user? | 08:58 |
| sidx64 | I mean, there's a port that needs to be open irrespective of what security group the user applies on the instance he spawns | 08:59 |
| sidx64 | How do I get this toi happen? | 08:59 |
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| sidx64 | Hello! I am building a new OpenStack environment in my Organization's Data Center. I am planning to deploy OpenStack Ocata. I have a question regarding default security groups. Is there a way to ensure that a specific port is turned on, irrespective of the security group being applied by the tenant user? | 13:27 |
| sidx64 | I mean, there's a port that needs to be open irrespective of what security group the user applies on the instance he spawns | 13:27 |
| sidx64 | How can I do this? | 13:28 |
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| smcginnis | sidx64: As far as I know, you will need to make sure that port is allowed in any of the security groups used. | 13:42 |
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| zzzeek | jaypipes: are you interested in galera/innodb tuning changes in tripleo ? | 16:30 |
| jaypipes | zzzeek: vaguely, sure. | 16:30 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: haha | 16:30 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: need to decide if folks would appreciate disk flush per second w/ galera clusters or if they'd be afraid of data loss | 16:31 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: recent move to innodb_file_per_table I think is leading to slow disk problems | 16:31 |
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| jaypipes | zzzeek: what was the purpose of moving to file per table? | 16:32 |
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| zzzeek | jaypipes: our customers have ginormous ibdata files that eat up their disk partitions. w/ galera in particular the size of these files are forever | 16:32 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: i believe it is also now an upstream default in mysql / mariadb | 16:33 |
| jaypipes | zzzeek: you must be using Galera/MySQL for Ceilometer or Keystone tokens... :( | 16:33 |
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| zzzeek | jaypipes: yes, the keystone token thing is the source of all woes. but! at least we're getting the DB to be more scalable as a result for when keystone token table goes away | 16:34 |
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| breton | oh wow | 16:34 |
| jaypipes | zzzeek: also, galera doesn't have anything to do with the ibdata files. that's just an innodb thing. galera is all about the binlog shipping and the galera state file. | 16:34 |
| breton | i wonder how many tokens per second are getting generated | 16:34 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: yes, however we use rsync for SST so even if client brings one galera node down to remove ibdata file, rsync sticks it right back from the other node | 16:35 |
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| breton | and maybe you are not flushing them often enough | 16:35 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: in the past i tried having a customer switch to logical SST and work aroudn tihs and it worked disastrously, only because it was too complicted | 16:35 |
| zzzeek | breton: yes that as well however tripleo up until newton or so had the cron set up at once a day | 16:35 |
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| jaypipes | zzzeek: sure, yes, when joining a node with a full SST, the ibdata files are going to be shipped. | 16:35 |
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| breton | zzzeek: and now it hasn't probably because they switched to fernet | 16:36 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: heh. none of this is mysterious! :) customers dont want to shut their whole cluster down and restore from a backup | 16:36 |
| zzzeek | breton: yes. | 16:36 |
| jaypipes | zzzeek: "logical SST"? you mean IST? or switch from using rsync to, say, xtrabackup for replication? | 16:36 |
| breton | zzzeek: maybe you could restore that job manually | 16:36 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: mysqldump. dont go there :) | 16:37 |
| jaypipes | zzzeek: no, I'm asking a real question there :) | 16:37 |
| jaypipes | zzzeek: what do you refer to with "logical SST"? | 16:37 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: withotu using xtrabcakup you can do rsync or mysqldump | 16:37 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: "logical" is mysqldump, e.g. replicating the SQL, not the file | 16:37 |
| jaypipes | gotcha. | 16:37 |
| jaypipes | zzzeek: sorry, had to ask :) | 16:37 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: no that's graet usually im the one not keeping up with someone's terminology | 16:37 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: file per table is like the default in mysql 5.6 or 5.7 or something. | 16:38 |
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| jaypipes | zzzeek: what is the primary problem triple-o is experiencing with Galera? is it long delay in new (or backup) nodes joining the cluster? or is the primary issue write throughput during a backup (or normal?) operation? or something else entirely? | 16:39 |
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| zzzeek | jaypipes: anyway, i just put up that review to see how phobic people are of OMG what if the power goes out and all three galera nodes go down | 16:39 |
| jaypipes | zzzeek: shoot me a link to the review and I can comment on it. | 16:39 |
| jaypipes | and maybe ask Peter Boros or Zaitcev from Percona to weigh in. | 16:39 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: well one problem i hit and some other folks in very slow / vritual envs was that straight up nova dbsync would time out, so i got a configurable timeout added for that | 16:39 |
| jaypipes | zzzeek: errr, that *definitely* should not happen... | 16:40 |
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| jaypipes | zzzeek: remember that nova dbsync never does any data migrations. only schema column adds. | 16:40 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: that would occur specifically on qemu virt node that uses a certain disk cache mode and innodb_file_per_table | 16:40 |
| jaypipes | zzzeek: so if that's slow, that's really an issue that should be addressed searately. | 16:41 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: yet I can show you it happening every time :) | 16:41 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: yes. that is true. that was more about setting up oooq a certain way. | 16:41 |
| jaypipes | zzzeek: any way you can see if there's a pattern of a particular migration that holds things up? perhaps we missed a secret data migration stuffed in somewhere? | 16:41 |
| zzzeek | but now ive had one bug reporter talk about super slow writes in some load testing setup they have and i am trying to get their disk details, b.c.they set this flag to 2 and they saw some crazy 10000% speedup or something | 16:42 |
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| zzzeek | jaypipes: it's not data migration, its' just building all those tables, in that case. i would watch the mysql logs and watch the "CREATE TABLE" spit out, then wait three seconds, then the next "CREATE TABLE", then wait, etc., puppet hardcodes all exec operations to 300 second timeout which IMO is too short | 16:43 |
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| zzzeek | jaypipes: i added you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479849/1 | 16:44 |
| jaypipes | zzzeek: well, as you very much know, all DDL operations in MySQL are performed in their own transaction, so it's not like it's building up one giant DDL transaction that runs to completion or gets rolled back. 3 seconds to create a table is ludicrous. There's got to be something fishy in either the wsrep settings or the my.cnf settings. | 16:45 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: it's a pretty vanilla setup, but note this is running galera on three nodes w/ pacemaker and all in VM-based "baremetal" nodes, if that makes sense | 16:46 |
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| jaypipes | zzzeek: sure. same setup that bogdano had in Fuel, right? :) | 16:47 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: see now he also +1'ed this review so who is that, i dont have the background on this | 16:47 |
| jaypipes | shit... need to run out to drop the girls off at the groomers... back in about 30 minutes! | 16:47 |
| zzzeek | jaypipes: the disk cache mode that makes it "work" is "cache=unsafe" at https://www.suse.com/documentation/sles11/book_kvm/data/sect1_1_chapter_book_kvm.html, e.g. again, unsafe filesystem flushes | 16:48 |
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