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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: Add Fuxi-golang as a Kuryr sub-project  https://review.openstack.org/47011107:39
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jamespagetinwood, icey: I'm pretty happy with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469556/ now - functional tests pass for both linuxbridge and ovs07:53
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/governance master: Remove "meritocracy" from the opens  https://review.openstack.org/47351010:19
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cdentcoreycb: I'm shaking my tiny fist at global config patterns12:41
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coreycbcdent: :)12:43
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mriedemdhellmann: sdague: i seem to have hit a booboo in os_api_ref http://paste.openstack.org/show/612421/14:14
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sdaguemriedem: have a patch I can poke at?14:15
mriedemsdague: gonna be awhile, i have to rebase it apparently14:15
mriedemi was going to work my changes back to see when it will pass14:15
sdaguemriedem: is there a starting patch?14:16
sdaguemaybe I can inspect14:16
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sdaguethe stack trace without the input is more or less not useful14:16
sdaguemy guess is it's bad rst inside a description block14:17
mriedemhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/612422/14:17
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sdagueI'd put mony on the .. note::14:18
sdagueI didn't think you were allowed to inline those14:18
mriedemin which file?14:18
sdagueL112 in you patch14:19
mriedemwe have several parameters in the yaml file with notes14:20
mriedemmaybe the indent messes it up14:20
sdaguemaybe, let me try building locally off your patch14:20
sdaguehmmm... it just worked for me14:20
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mriedemi'll rebuild the venv14:21
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sdagueyeh, I even rebased to master, and it seemed fine14:22
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zzzeekflaper87: I made a bunch of changes to things I think you worked on at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473612/ it would be handy if you could review14:24
flaper87zzzeek: will review, thanks for the heads up14:25
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flaper87zzzeek: thanks for those changes! I think the fix an issue bandini has hit randomly in the last couple of months14:27
zzzeekflaper87: yes its in the commit msg :)14:27
zzzeekflaper87: the part that changes here are those integrityerrors14:28
zzzeekflaper87: I assumed the test suite exercises all possible expected error catches14:28
flaper87zzzeek: lol, missed that. Was too excited with the code14:28
zzzeekflaper87: oslo.db breaks up IntegrityError into finer grained errors,which is a good thing, but I assumed most in zaqar are looking for DBDuplicateEntry14:28
zzzeekflaper87: based on the errors the test suite threw14:29
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mriedemsdague: think i figured it out14:30
mriedemsdague: i renamed a param in parameters.yaml,14:31
flaper87zzzeek: your assumption is  correct14:31
mriedembut forgot to update it's usage in os-services.in14:31
mriedem*inc14:31
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mriedemit was the forced_down parametr14:32
mriedemrenamed to forced_down_2_1114:33
mriedemsdague: oh derp, the patch worked for you b/c i didn't commit my local changes :P14:33
mriedemforgot git format-patch -1 is the last commit14:33
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sdaguemriedem: heh14:36
sdaguewell, like I said, you need to give me a patch and I can poke :)14:37
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mriedemcoming up14:37
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mriedemsdague: here it is https://review.openstack.org/46428014:39
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zzzeekflaper87: one other thing to note w/ the zaqar change, since it uses connection-pool-checkout per operation, at the moment you will get "SELECT 1" in the logs preceding every statement.   this is not a big deal but it's also not going to help get NYSE-level performance16:36
zzzeekflaper87: if/when zaqar moves to have a decorator / context manager approach that procures a connection per request, then the "SELECT 1" ping is moved up to once per request16:37
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mriedemsdague: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-doc-tools/+bug/169773616:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1697736 in openstack-doc-tools "TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not callable when trying to warn with Sphinx 1.6.2" [Undecided,New]16:47
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed openstack/governance master: Declare plainly the current state of MySQL in OpenStack  https://review.openstack.org/42788018:05
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed openstack/governance master: Declare plainly the current state of PostgreSQL in OpenStack  https://review.openstack.org/42788018:13
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dhellmannmriedem, sdague : do either of you have any idea what's going on with this novaclient test? is it broken on master? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471082/18:29
sdaguedhellmann: yeh, there is a fix up I think18:29
dhellmannoh, it looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473224/ failed because of the requirements job I borked18:30
sdaguedhellmann: although something not https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473224/18:30
sdagueyeh, that might be18:30
sdagueis the requirements job working again?18:30
sdagueas soon as that is we can recheck, get that novaclient change in, then things should work again18:30
dhellmannthe fix is in, but the images have to be rebuilt18:31
dhellmannso tomorrow, I think18:31
sdagueok, so we're stuck until then18:31
sdaguedhellmann: how much do you interact with upstream sphinx ?18:32
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sdagueI just discovered they broke a warnings API internally, in honestly a way that I'm not even sure where they were headed with it18:34
sdaguejust litterally a caller goes away18:34
dhellmannsdague : not that much, any more18:35
sdagueok18:35
dhellmannthey removed a method?18:35
sdaguewell... kind of18:35
sdaguethe self.env.warn function that you'd use inside of a directive calls an internal self._warnfunc18:36
sdaguewhich is no longer defined18:36
sdaguehttps://github.com/sdague/sphinx/blob/f6d0b07704bf59232493ce2e772f828c8fb33d18/sphinx/environment/__init__.py#L295-L30418:36
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dhellmannoh, looks like they want you to use logging instead18:37
dhellmannhttps://github.com/sdague/sphinx/blob/f6d0b07704bf59232493ce2e772f828c8fb33d18/sphinx/environment/__init__.py#L27118:37
sdagueyeh, except you'd think they would have made that change there to their interface18:37
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dhellmannthat explains the change that turned log.warning() into failures18:37
sdagueand not just have it blow up18:37
dhellmannif it's only deprecated, it seems like a bug18:38
sdagueyeh, it does, I'm working on reporting it, but they have over 500 open bugs in their tracker, so I'm not hopeful18:38
dhellmannI don't know where master is though on their version timeline18:38
sdaguethis is the thing mriedem was asking about earlier, because os-api-ref used that when it found an issue, but then just exploded in None is not callable error18:39
dhellmannah18:39
dhellmannthe pull request would be to just store the value again, right?18:39
dhellmannI mean, who knows, that might break tests18:39
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sdagueyeh, honestly, the docs of the functions that remain are out of sync with the behavior you would get out of logging18:42
sdagueand without more breadcrumbs I'm not sure if that's intentional or accidental18:42
sdagueI'll file the bug and migrate us away from that function in os-api-ref18:43
dhellmannyeah, I'll see what I can find about a roadmap18:44
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sdagueat least it's on github now18:46
sdagueI remember it being on sourceforge before18:46
dhellmannI think it was on bitbucket for a while18:46
clarkbdhellmann: dtroyer: testing https://github.com/takluyver/entrypoints compared to pkg_resources it is much faster ( granted in a trivial test case) http://paste.openstack.org/show/612453/. Perhaps we should be looking at some other tool (like this one) to list and find the entrypoints in isc?18:47
dhellmannclarkb : does it use setuptools entry points still?18:47
dhellmannit looks like it18:48
clarkbya it seems to give me equivalent lists (just in different data structures18:49
dhellmannI would not be opposed to just vendoring something like that into stevedore18:49
sdaguedhellmann: https://github.com/sphinx-doc/sphinx/issues/386518:50
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sdagueok, time to fix os-api-ref to just not use that call18:50
dhellmannsdague : thanks18:50
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clarkbdhellmann: osc appears to invoke pkg_resources.iter_entry_points() directly but the more places we can address the better18:51
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/governance master: Begin integrating vision feedback and editing for style  https://review.openstack.org/47362018:52
dhellmannsdague : https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sphinx-dev/gHUL2HVWd8k18:53
dhellmannclarkb : yeah, we need a compatible api in stevedore I just haven't gotten around to it18:53
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clarkbdhellmann: I'm going to try whipping up a quick patch in osc to use entrypoints to see how that goes18:55
dhellmannok18:55
dhellmannclarkb : this looks suspicious: https://github.com/takluyver/entrypoints/blob/master/entrypoints.py#L1918:56
dhellmannclarkb : also, I don't see a setup.py, so is this on pypi?18:56
clarkbit is on pypi18:56
clarkbI pip insatlled it and it worked...18:57
dhellmannweird18:57
clarkbsuccessfully installed configparser-3.5.0 entrypoints-0.2.318:57
clarkbso it installed configparser18:57
dhellmannI wonder how it was packaged18:57
clarkbhttps://github.com/takluyver/entrypoints/blob/master/flit.ini looks related18:58
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dhellmannnever heard of that one18:58
dhellmannoh, I guess the configparser module includes that backports directory19:00
dhellmannsigh19:00
clarkboh ugh19:00
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sdaguedhellmann / ttx et al. no TC meeting today, right? as I did not see an agenda19:36
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clarkbdhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/473954 is a first go at it, see if that helps19:39
dhellmannsdague : tbh, I'm not sure19:39
dhellmannclarkb : thanks, I'll keep an eye on that19:40
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dhellmannmaybe this will push me to finally port cliff to stevedore the rest of the way19:40
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sdagueclarkb: do you have a through test on devstack showing real speed up on openstack client?19:42
sdaguebecause I found with fighting imports that other places pull back in libraries that you don't expect19:42
sdagueand you loose gains19:42
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clarkbsdague: no thats what pushing the patch now is going to do. I do have profiling showing that the pkg_resources.iter_entry_points() call made by osc is a significant part of the cost though and entrypoints.get_group_named() does not cost near as much19:43
sdagueclarkb: in my abandoned queue in devstack there is an osc timings patch19:44
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sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/450431/19:45
sdagueyou might find that usefu;19:45
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clarkbthanks19:45
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dhellmannmordred : is there some way to make pbr's auto-generated API files end up somewhere other than an "api" directory?20:30
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mordreddhellmann: that's a great question20:31
mordreddhellmann: not currently. BUT - the code that's doing that is already reading a value from config - so adding an option to control where it shows up would be fairly trivial20:32
dhellmannmordred : because that name conflicts with the doc spec we have up now to reorganize all of the content20:33
dhellmannit would probably be easier to change the spec than pbr20:33
dhellmannlike make the rest-api go to /rest-api i20:33
dhellmanninstead of /api20:33
dhellmannalthough I guess we'd still want those code docs under the /contributor section20:33
dhellmannok, let me look at pbr20:33
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mordreddhellmann: pbr/builddoc.py LocalBuildDoc._get_source_dir20:34
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clarkbdhellmann: fwiw my osc change runs the unittests much more slowly... I know that pkg_resources attempts to cache things, it is possible that repeatedly calling entrypoints ends up being more costly than pkg_resources in teh end due to that caching20:40
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EmilienMdhellmann: hey, /me catching from PTOs and I've read recents emails on [deployment] [oslo] [ansible] [tripleo] [kolla] [helm] Configuration management with etcd / confd - i'm not sure we've reached a consensus yet on the solution21:02
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EmilienMdhellmann: iiuc the discussion is now between "Run confd + openstack service in side the container" or "Run confd `-onetime` and then run the openstack service"21:03
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EmilienMdhellmann: and some pushback from kevin on using confd21:03
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dhellmannclarkb : another reason to put it into stevedore, which does caching21:06
dhellmannEmilienM : no, confd isn't going to work because of the cinder case. We're going to need to use configmap21:07
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dhellmannEmilienM : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118138.html21:09
EmilienMdhellmann: I didn't understand why we can't tell confd to look at ALL cinder params21:10
EmilienMsince we tell Cinder which backend we actually enable21:10
dhellmannbecause some of the groups cinder defines use user-defined names because they represent backends21:10
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dhellmannso we do not know the names in advance21:10
EmilienMah right21:10
EmilienMI got it now21:10
EmilienMargh21:10
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dhellmannindeed21:11
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EmilienMdhellmann: even with https://kubernetes.io/docs/tasks/configure-pod-container/configure-pod-configmap/#populate-a-volume-with-data-stored-in-a-configmap - how do we generate the actual config file?21:14
EmilienMthat's exactly what we were trying to solve at the beginning21:15
dhellmannEmilienM : how does tripleo do it today?21:15
EmilienMdhellmann: it use puppet21:15
EmilienMand that's what I'm trying to get rid of21:15
dhellmannwhere does puppet get the inputs?21:15
EmilienMdhellmann: do you mean all options on nova.conf?21:15
dhellmannEmilienM : yes. puppet must be getting some values, where do those come from?21:16
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EmilienMdhellmann: we use a ruby provider, nova_config21:16
EmilienMdhellmann: look https://github.com/openstack/puppet-nova/blob/master/manifests/logging.pp#L11721:16
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EmilienMwe have to maintain all these options21:16
EmilienMansible / chef do the same thing, they maintain a list of parameters21:16
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dhellmannEmilienM : if I, as a user, want to set an option to something other than the default, where does tripleo save the information that I give it?21:16
EmilienMthat's the main reason why I wanted to move out from this model21:17
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EmilienMdhellmann: in tripleo-heat-templates21:17
dhellmannit would be fine for us to build an oslo-config-write-config-file tool but we need to give it the inputs to put in the file21:17
dhellmannso those are hard-coded?21:17
EmilienMdhellmann: https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/puppet/services/nova-conductor.yaml#L2921:17
dhellmannin a heat template?21:17
EmilienMdhellmann: and given to Puppet via Hiera: https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/puppet/services/nova-conductor.yaml#L7521:18
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dhellmannah21:18
EmilienMI wanted TripleO to talk with something like etcd to feed data21:18
dhellmannso we need a tool that takes bnemec's yaml file and a hiera connection string and writes an ini file21:18
EmilienMand all installers do the same thing21:18
EmilienMlike OSA, Kolla, etc21:18
EmilienMso the only thing that would be custom to installers, is the user interface to feed data21:18
EmilienM(heat, yaml, etc etc)21:18
dhellmannyeah21:18
EmilienMbut the rest would be shared21:19
EmilienMeg: how you manage config files21:19
dhellmannwe need to solve that problem of how to know the names of all of the groups21:19
EmilienMdhellmann: forget about hiera21:19
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EmilienMon the long term, we want to get rid of it21:19
dhellmannok21:19
EmilienMI'm trying to see how oslo.config would be useful for ConfigMaps in k8s21:20
EmilienMI sort of proposed something:21:20
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EmilienMhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/612470/21:20
EmilienMwe would need a tool to transform the config map into ini file for example21:21
dhellmannEmilienM : you can upload an entire file into the configmap as a "value" and have that mounted inside the instance21:21
EmilienMso we can give data into configmap format in a consitent way with other projects21:21
dhellmannit's like nova's file-injection feature21:21
EmilienMyeah but you need some magic to generate the nova.conf21:21
dhellmannwell, yeah, I thought we already had that21:22
dhellmannI didn't realize you wanted to get rid of what we had21:22
dhellmannany generic solution we come up with has to overcome the problem of knowing how to generate the names and options for those dynamic groups.21:22
dhellmannno matter where the data comes from21:22
dhellmannso, let's think about solving that problem in terms of building a generic tool that reads a list of option definitions from that YAML file bnemec's tool writes, then gets option values from $somewhere, and generates the INI file21:23
dhellmannif we can do that, we can also have it do other things with the data21:23
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dhellmannwrite to etcd, whatever21:23
smcginnisIf you don't care about configuring multiple Cinder backends, that should be OK.21:24
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smcginnisBut not sure how you will know which options to use for the chosen backend. Unless that's hardcoded.21:24
dhellmannI'm not sure we can just say that :-/21:24
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dhellmannthat, too21:25
dhellmannso we need to know which option tells us the names of the dynamic groups, and then inside a group which option tells us the names of the other options that need to be specified21:25
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dhellmannand fwiw, this isn't just an issue with cinder, that's just the case I can always remember21:26
smcginnisWe're a good poster child for troublemakers. :)21:26
dhellmannevery project team adds its own unique contributions to the joy of the community21:26
smcginnishah21:27
bnemecYeah, tripleo's actually going to have a similar use case for creating multiple subnets.21:27
dhellmannEmilienM : I'm in the middle of something else right now. Maybe we can schedule some time to talk tomorrow?21:27
EmilienMdhellmann: yeah no worries, sorry for interrupting21:27
EmilienMdhellmann: I'll schedule something21:27
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dhellmannsmcginnis : are the group names for the extra backends listed directly in some other option? or do you do something like prefix the values given by the user?21:28
dhellmannthat is, if I say "backends = foo, bar" are there foo and bar groups, or "backend:foo" and "backend:bar" groups?21:28
dhellmannEmilienM : np, I know this is an important problem to solve21:29
smcginnisdhellmann: If you have "enabled_backends=foo,bar" you would then have a "[foo]" section and a "[bar]" section.21:29
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smcginnisdhellmann: Was that what you were asking?21:29
dhellmannsmcginnis : oh, good, that's easy at least21:29
dhellmannyeah21:29
smcginnisdhellmann: This may or may not make it slightly easier to at least identify the relevant config options: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453654/21:29
dhellmannwe can add some properties to the OptGroup class to tell us which other option should be used to determine the occurances of the group21:30
smcginnisAt least as far as identifying what options are for backends. Not which ones apply to which specific backends though.21:30
dhellmannsmcginnis : and there is, I guess, a driver option inside the group?21:30
smcginnisdhellmann: Correct21:30
dhellmannso to find the groups, I need the enabled_backends option and then to find the options in the group I need the driver option21:30
dhellmannhmm21:31
dhellmanndoes that driver name correspond directly to an oslo.config option entry point name?21:31
smcginnisdhellmann: To make it more complicated, even once you have the driver option, there are common config options used by all (or some subset) of backends. And there are config options only applicable to a specific backend.21:31
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dhellmannok21:31
dhellmannugh21:32
dhellmannok, it's too late in the day for me to think about this clearly21:32
smcginnisdhellmann: Yeah, it's kind of messy as far as config generation goes, but works for humans pretty well.21:32
smcginnis;)21:32
dhellmannit's easy to understand, it's just not easy for a computer to understand21:32
smcginnisExactly21:32
smcginnisWe need to build an AI to do it. :D21:32
dhellmannif we need an AI to deploy software, something has gone terribly wrong21:33
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