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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: feature-classification: a common lib for FeatCl frameworks https://review.openstack.org/452548 | 10:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Create openstack-zuul-jobs / openstack-zuul-roles projects https://review.openstack.org/462143 | 10:09 |
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| dims | SpamapS : around? need some advice about backports (like https://bugs.launchpad.net/xenial-backports/+bug/1680227). Need guidance with etcd (from zesty to xenial - https://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/etcd) | 10:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1680227 in Xenial Backports "Please backport bubblewrap 0.1.7-1 (universe) from zesty" [Undecided,New] | 10:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/governance master: deprecate postgresql in OpenStack https://review.openstack.org/427880 | 11:04 |
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| SpamapS | dims: hi! I'm not really around.. ;) but.. you want the 'backportpackage' and 'requestbackport' scripts from ubuntu-dev-scripts | 11:31 |
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| dims | SpamapS : ack thanks! | 11:36 |
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| SpamapS | dims: note that I wouldn't hold your breath. The backporters team is currently about 1 person. :-/ | 11:39 |
| dims | :) SpamapS understood | 11:39 |
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| mordred | dims: did you happen to catch my questoins for you in scrollback? | 13:23 |
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| mordred | dims: in the discussion about adopting etcd3 as a core base service, was it defined how different services would share same etcd3 yet? (I'm assuming some sort of namespacing?) | 13:24 |
| mordred | dims: (like, I'm assuming that being able to use one single etcd3 installation would be a thing people would desire) | 13:25 |
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| dims | mordred : oops forgot to respond. in the session, we did not talk about it. i am just catching up with the changes from jaypipes and jd_ to see what they do in tooz | 13:26 |
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| jd_ | mordred: this has not been discussed, no technical details were discussed actually | 13:26 |
| dims | mordred : looks like we ended up with /tooz/locks as prefix, but we don't have the name of the service. | 13:26 |
| jd_ | mordred: it was mainly a discussion of principle | 13:26 |
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| jd_ | dims: no, we probably need a way to add a custom namespace somewhere | 13:27 |
| dims | ++ jd_ | 13:27 |
| jd_ | dims: so far we never had conflict because the lock names are different, but that's just chance :) | 13:27 |
| mordred | ok. cool - mostly just wondering as I started to think about it | 13:27 |
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| jd_ | though the same goes with python-etcd3, everything goes under /lock IIRC | 13:28 |
| jd_ | rather /locks | 13:28 |
| dims | jd_ : i am leaning towards a separate driver for the etcd3 via grpc gateway looking at the latest reviews/changes | 13:28 |
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| jd_ | dims: in tooz? | 13:28 |
| dims | y | 13:28 |
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| jd_ | I don't think anyone is interested anymore in tooz from what I got from the etcd-as-a-base-service sessions | 13:29 |
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| jd_ | so are you sure you want to write it there? | 13:29 |
| dims | jd_ : cinder needs to be defaulted to etcd3 based lock | 13:30 |
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| jd_ | well they could switch to your gateway lib directly | 13:30 |
| jd_ | I mean, I don't mind having a etcd3+http driver in tooz, don't get me wrong :) | 13:30 |
| jd_ | I just don't want you to spend time where it's not going to be used | 13:30 |
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| dims | good point, let me chew on that | 13:31 |
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| smcginnis | I still see some value in having tooz in there. Unless we really decide to completely standardize on direct etcd. | 13:31 |
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| * dims me too @smcginnis | 13:32 | |
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| mordred | I think I fall more with jd_ ... if we're diving down the road of "openstack deployments will always have etcd3 available" - then that sounds to me like we decided to standardize on etcd | 13:38 |
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| smcginnis | mordred: Yeah. If we decide on how and where that etcd is accessed. If there are variations that tooz can hide from the consuming projects, then I'd rather have it there making it easier. | 13:50 |
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| smcginnis | But if it is just a pass through, then I think there is no value and it should be removed. | 13:50 |
| smcginnis | On the Cinder side, I'd like things to work by default. | 13:50 |
| smcginnis | That's why we defaulted to tooz with file locks. If they don't care about DLM, it just works. If they do, then they just need to configure it to work that way. | 13:51 |
| smcginnis | So if we can always assume etcd is there, and we use either dims's gateway or a direct library to access it in a consistent way, then I'm happy with tooz removed. | 13:51 |
| mordred | smcginnis: I agree with all of that | 13:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed openstack/governance master: Drop Technical Committee meetings https://review.openstack.org/459848 | 13:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Flavio Percoco proposed openstack/governance master: Document voting process for `formal-vote` patches https://review.openstack.org/463141 | 13:54 |
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| notmyname | ttx: sdague: where are the queens goals? I don't see anything landed, and the only thing that proposed to governance is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369749/. I read that three goals were approved last week at the summit; I was hoping to read them | 20:41 |
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| sdague | notmyname: I don't actually know, I wasn't in that room as the TC vision talk and my talk about doing cross project things happened at a conflicting time | 20:44 |
| notmyname | yeah, my project update was at the same time, too | 20:44 |
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| notmyname | sdague: I was hoping you might know where the governance patches were. the one I linked was the only one with "queens" in the subject | 20:45 |
| sdague | notmyname: unfortunately, I don't think I can be of help. I would have expected them to have hit pretty soon if people came to some concensus in room for things that made sense to go forward. But to the best of my knowledge nothing is defined there for real until it's gone through normal governance proposal process and commentary | 20:47 |
| clarkb | aiui that session was about reducing the list then things would go through nirmal review process | 20:47 |
| clarkb | and double guessing it just hasnt been pushed yet | 20:48 |
| sdague | clarkb: ok, cool. The foundation write up made it sound a little more concrete | 20:48 |
| sdague | but that makes a bunch of sense | 20:48 |
| notmyname | ah, I saw... yeah the foundation writeup. number 27 http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-summit-boston-recap-post/ | 20:49 |
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